Angeles City

[Dante702]

If you are Filipino as claimed you would know "gwapa" refers to a girl. When referring to a male = "gwapo". Very basic, thought you'd know that one.

My understanding, guys who introduce themselves as Filipino, have a hard time, as girls suspect you might be working with the filipino police. Better you do no speak any tagalog / visayan and maybe say you are Thai / Chinese / Malaysian, whatever.

Also, better you just go to the places yourself, and find out the facts as they affect you. What's beautiful? Varies guy to guy. What is real price? Easy to find out, if you have half a personality.

I figured it was a typo on your end.

I don't introduce myself as Filipino, I don't look Filipino. Some maybe figure me as half. Sometimes I stop even trying to say I'm Filipino because people have a hard time believing.

I've never had trouble introducing myself as Filipino from the US. I've only had a hard time convincing them that I'm not half or something else.

It's my mistake to ask for the real price in KTV, because there is no real price, there's common prices people are getting and prices the girls are used to. There's also a price to finding out in KTV, and that price will likely vary based on how much you've already put in their pockets in terms of ladies drinks, how much they are already making from ladies drinks, and how much they like you from spending time with them. The price can be very volatile because of all the variables here, variables that can cost you time and money with a lot of risk. Which is why FR here is more valuable than barfine FR. In barfine FR, at least you get something. Sometimes guys complain going into bars and after buying the girl many drinks, they say they can't barfine. This is the same thing with KTV, except in KTV you can't ask upfront without a high risk of getting a high price. Then, you have to wait / blow time until 3 or 4 am, when they get off, or wait until their day off. If you happen to stay until 3-4 am, when the KTV closes, you hope she isn't too tired, you aren't too tired, to go back to your place. If you leave earlier than this time, you have to hope she cares enough and that someone with a more careless wallet didn't come after you and throw her a better offer.

I'm not making this more complicated than it is. This is that complicated, otherwise you are just throwing a lot of dice and hoping the stars align.

ISG in AC doesn't have a lot of experience with KTV's, ok, that's fine. I'll find out and report back.

[GreenBud]

Need to get from Angeles to Sabang.

I am thinking taxi all the way to Batangas pier and then banka obviously. Advice needed on timing and best day. I know last boat leaves around 4/5 pm to Sabang. So am thinking 2 hrs from Angeles to Manila, 2 hrs manila to Batangas Pier, 1 hour approx boat ride plus 1 HR to allow for stuff ups and waiting for banka at Batangas.

Manila traffic will have a lot to do with timing so best days please (def not Sat morn) and thinking leave Angeles around 8 to miss morning peak hour. Anyone done the trip?

I've done that taxi trip many times. My hotel charges around $150. It's too much for my budget. Next time, I'm going to probably take the local buses. You probably will go from Dau to Cubao to Batangas. It will be 2 buses. I've done the Batangas to Angeles trip twice with local buses. It's fast with comfortable buses. I've written detailed info on it. You just have to go backwards.

I've always left around 10 AM. It takes around 3.5 hours to get to Bantagas pier without any stops. There's some traffic around Manila, but hotel taxi can drive very fast before and after. I've always made the 2 something PM boat ride to Sabang from Father and Sons Line.

No more public bancas from Batangas to Sabang. Have to go to either Puerto Galera or White Beach.

Really? That sucks. From Puerto Galera town, you can take the 20 pesos jeepney to Sabang. The last one leaves around the evening time. But it will be a pain in the rear to carry your luggage a few hundred meters over a hill to the jeepney station. You can take a trike for around 100 pesos.

Or bite the bullet and just stay onight in manila?

I've done that couple of times. It's convenient if you take the tourist buses. Southern Cross shuttle to Manila in the afternoon. And then Skikat shuttle/banca to Sabang in the morning. But I don't like Manila, and I probably won't do that route again.

Hmm. Skikat gave you the public banca to Sabang. Does that mean Skikat doesn't do that route anymore?

[Kabul Guy]

You seem to be asking about two things which are mutually exclusive:

I true high end girl will not be interested in a nightly rate. She will be secured with a car, apartment and generous allowance. She would regard P50 k as walking around money.

A pretty hooker will be available for daily rates. Said rates will depend on her looks and social skills. Plenty of girls are demanding and getting USD 1000 per night without too much trouble.

......

I'd suggest SA, if price is not your first consideration. There are many more quality girls there and they would be willing to be yours for a couple of months for the amounts we are talking about here. Be open and honest about what you are offering and asking for and you will find it in the Philippines.

So far my best success, both in quality and duration was a SA girl. We agreed on a fairly small allowance that in the end she did not take, all I put out was for a couple day training course that she needed to keep her license and I replaced a phone that she actually lost. (I was with her, she had it as we gone on a long trike ride and it was gone at the end of the ride. I was the one that suggested the 18 k phone, more memory, might be better for her than the 16 k one she asked for.).

It ended because her parents insisted but she was a 21 year old completely open minded little hottie.

[Sxxxx]

I don't take pride in being gwapa Fil-Am....

If you are Filipino as claimed you would know "gwapa" refers to a girl. When referring to a male = "gwapo". Very basic, thought you'd know that one.

My understanding, guys who introduce themselves as Filipino, have a hard time, as girls suspect you might be working with the filipino police. Better you do no speak any tagalog / visayan and maybe say you are Thai / Chinese / Malaysian, whatever.

Also, better you just go to the places yourself, and find out the facts as they affect you. What's beautiful? Varies guy to guy. What is real price? Easy to find out, if you have half a personality.

[BusyDiver]

Need to get from Angeles to Sabang.

I am thinking taxi all the way to Batangas pier and then banka obviously. Advice needed on timing and best day. I know last boat leaves around 4/5 pm to Sabang. So am thinking 2 hrs from Angeles to Manila, 2 hrs manila to Batangas Pier, 1 hour approx boat ride plus 1 HR to allow for stuff ups and waiting for banka at Batangas.

Manila traffic will have a lot to do with timing so best days please (def not Sat morn) and thinking leave Angeles around 8 to miss morning peak hour. Anyone done the trip?

Or bite the bullet and just stay onight in manila?

No more public bancas from Batangas to Sabang. Have to go to either Puerto Galera or White Beach. If you want to hire a private banca they will take you to Sabang.

[Dg8787]

I don't take pride in being gwapa Fil-Am. I only ever mentioned it because I was leveraging that in getting bareback, in paying what I was paying. It's disingenuous to not include that, it would create the wrong expectations. Young handsome Caucasians are the ones that have it the best here, and everywhere else.

I can afford $500 just fine. I was already spending 12 k LT per night in Manila for 2 months. I paid 7. 5 k USD for a sauna, 12 k USD for a bed, $1300 for a desk. I'm fine with high prices, as long as its for what I really want. I haven't lost, nor do I ever intend to, lose half my wealth to a divorce, a woman I eventually come to hate, and that steals my children.

I'm entertaining the idea of higher priced girls for a long period of time, maybe 2 months straight with an overseas trip, which is why the rate is important to me. If no one here has experience with these higher rates, if there even is an established rate, for these supposedly hotter girls, then just say you don't know. Maybe Koreans and Japanese are the only ones that know these rates, because they are the only ones in the KTV's?

Then just do it and report back.

They are no different than you or me. Once you earn more you are not going to work for less.

[Goferring]

I'm entertaining the idea of higher priced girls for a long period of time, maybe 2 months straight with an overseas trip, which is why the rate is important to me. If no one here has experience with these higher rates, if there even is an established rate, for these supposedly hotter girls, then just say you don't know. Maybe Koreans and Japanese are the only ones that know these rates, because they are the only ones in the KTV's?

You seem to be asking about two things which are mutually exclusive:

I true high end girl will not be interested in a nightly rate. She will be secured with a car, apartment and generous allowance. She would regard P50 k as walking around money.

A pretty hooker will be available for daily rates. Said rates will depend on her looks and social skills. Plenty of girls are demanding and getting USD 1000 per night without too much trouble.

I can't comment on LT paid relationships with the second category. However I will say that they make great GFs / FWBs, providing both are comfortable with the realities of the relationship. In my case when I was in town, we would be together. No questions were asked about what either did while we were apart. I covered living and travel costs but no extra money changed hands. Everyone in town knew of our relationship. This continued for months until one of her sponsors got jealous of our arrangement and took her to Vietnam to get married.

From this you can see that even if she is a full professional rates for you can be anything from essentially free to as much as you want to pay. It just depends on how commercial you what the arrangement to be. There is no menu of prices but more like the price is what ever you want to pay.

[Dante702]

I've met two KTV girls after hours on their off days. Just normal girls when they are out of the Korean KTV atmosphere.

I have a feeling that the prices quoted may have happened to one girl once, once when one guy was on a bender. Is it happening every night? Was that money spent to the girl or the bar owner?

I cannot afford the korean prices nor do I enjoy the korean bar experience. I don't go there.

BD.

Thanks BrainDrain.

The 25 k, 50 k prices was just what I heard from a GrabCar driver for Pegasus KTV in Manila. I don't know anything about prices in KTV in AC yet, I've only ever been inside for a short time while waiting for another girl.

KTV there is no paying to the owner, KTV is just buying the girls drinks. Any meeting you have with her outside is privately set up, the drinks cost more. They try and sell you on a private room upstairs, where you order food and drinks. The bar makes their money off of that. The girls make their money off of that. It's private enough to negotiate for some action in the room itself.

The korean prices, from where? What prices were you getting? Korean girly Bars (not KTV) on perimeter have cheaper barfines than WS.

[Dante702]

I stand by my statement here. The only issue with PRICES is he can't afford the 25 k. $500 is not a lot of money and their seems to be ready market for them with plenty of buyers.

Phil is not the land for entitled Americans. I get it. It sucks when your entitled young gwapa Fil-Am looks can't get you anything.

I don't take pride in being gwapa Fil-Am. I only ever mentioned it because I was leveraging that in getting bareback, in paying what I was paying. It's disingenuous to not include that, it would create the wrong expectations. Young handsome Caucasians are the ones that have it the best here, and everywhere else.

I can afford $500 just fine. I was already spending 12 k LT per night in Manila for 2 months. I paid 7. 5 k USD for a sauna, 12 k USD for a bed, $1300 for a desk. I'm fine with high prices, as long as its for what I really want. I haven't lost, nor do I ever intend to, lose half my wealth to a divorce, a woman I eventually come to hate, and that steals my children.

I'm entertaining the idea of higher priced girls for a long period of time, maybe 2 months straight with an overseas trip, which is why the rate is important to me. If no one here has experience with these higher rates, if there even is an established rate, for these supposedly hotter girls, then just say you don't know. Maybe Koreans and Japanese are the only ones that know these rates, because they are the only ones in the KTV's?

[Dg8787]

I am thinking he is more upset that he can't have them. Even tho he is a young gwapo Fil-Am with a silver tongue.

I stand by my statement here. The only issue with PRICES is he can't afford the 25 k. $500 is not a lot of money and their seems to be ready market for them with plenty of buyers.

Phil is not the land for entitled Americans. I get it. It sucks when your entitled young gwapa Fil-Am looks can't get you anything.

[BrainDrain]

Three other girls, from a particular KTV, has three girls, who are claimed to be real models or have been models. They look it too, I believe it. KTV's don't barfine, but they offer you a chance to make deals with the girls on the side, if they like you and you can find a price. Their ladies drinks cost more and I'm sure plenty of them purely make their living off of ladies drinks, allowing themselves to be extremely discriminating for the highest bidders or the most good looking young mongerers.!

I've met two KTV girls after hours on their off days. Just normal girls when they are out of the Korean KTV atmosphere.

I have a feeling that the prices quoted may have happened to one girl once, once when one guy was on a bender. Is it happening every night? Was that money spent to the girl or the bar owner?

I cannot afford the korean prices nor do I enjoy the korean bar experience. I don't go there.

BD.

[Goferring]

Need to get from Angeles to Sabang.

I am thinking taxi all the way to Batangas pier and then banka obviously. Advice needed on timing and best day. I know last boat leaves around 4/5 pm to Sabang. So am thinking 2 hrs from Angeles to Manila, 2 hrs manila to Batangas Pier, 1 hour approx boat ride plus 1 HR to allow for stuff ups and waiting for banka at Batangas.

Manila traffic will have a lot to do with timing so best days please (def not Sat morn) and thinking leave Angeles around 8 to miss morning peak hour. Anyone done the trip?

Or bite the bullet and just stay onight in manila?

Or just fly on the seaplane.

[Member #4698]

Need to get from Angeles to Sabang.

I know last boat leaves around 4/5 pm to Sabang. So am thinking 2 hrs from Angeles to Manila, 2 hrs manila to Batangas Pier, 1 hour approx boat ride plus 1 HR to allow for stuff ups and waiting for banka at Batangas.

Manila traffic will have a lot to do with timing so best days please (def not Sat morn) and thinking leave Angeles around 8 to miss morning peak hour. Anyone done the trip?

Or bite the bullet and just stay a night in manila?

I would spend at least 1 night in MNL because I like MNL girls best. The girls alone draw me to MNL. Cutting a long tedious road trip into two halves is all roses on top of that.

[NewImage]

Need to get from Angeles to Sabang.

I am thinking taxi all the way to Batangas pier and then banka obviously. Advice needed on timing and best day. I know last boat leaves around 4/5 pm to Sabang. So am thinking 2 hrs from Angeles to Manila, 2 hrs manila to Batangas Pier, 1 hour approx boat ride plus 1 HR to allow for stuff ups and waiting for banka at Batangas.

Manila traffic will have a lot to do with timing so best days please (def not Sat morn) and thinking leave Angeles around 8 to miss morning peak hour. Anyone done the trip?

Or bite the bullet and just stay onight in manila?

[Mr Enternational]

Sure stunnners are great to look at but I would argue that cuties at the local market can be just as pretty and not have all the baggage of someone who considers herself a village princess.

And that is exactly why me and my friends sit at the market in Pattaya all afternoon to pick up chicks, while other mfs are spending all kinds of money in the gogos!