Angeles City

[Bushes]

Yes. It is a honey trap and has been used all over the world, especially third world countries. Avoid it at all costs. As other posters have cautioned, check ID and avoid if still in doubt. This will ruin your life. People have been shaken down by people in uniform or taken to a station to be shaken down properly.

Is that a thing? Getting setup with a minor and blackmailed or something? I'm interested to hear what scams are going on in AC.

If you want to bar fine a girl, ask if a particular girl is available for bar fine before spending money on drinks. The manager would know or ask the girl. It will avoid red days and disappointments.

Anyone getting pissed at finding girls you can't barfine (cherry) or girls that won't barfine?

Went to Voodoo 24 HR bar at or 10 AM and got a no for a LT barfine request for the only hot girl there.

Went to some other bar, forgot name, and got a no for a barfine girl because she was a cherry girl, they said her sister's husband or boyfriend or whatever was an owner of the bar.

Any help?

I would follow another poster called MonkeyPaw. A lot of people have come down hard on him but I think he makes some very good points, gives a lot of details and posts pictures.

This is how I hunt. I saw, I came, and I conquered, all on first try. No worries about rejection. I'll be honest, Nam didn't have the most beautiful face in the club, but hers was very cute and nice enough. Billboard is full of slender girls with no tits and no ass at all. For me, Nam had the best overall package when you look at her face, body, hair, skin, tits, ass, and spoken English. If you are going to a Go Go bar and you get to inspect the body and face ahead of time, why shouldn't you be leaving there with girl that has the entire package in terms of looks?

You can approach any adult. Just don't be creepy. Focus on the one you are interested in and find some reason to talk to her or offer her some refreshments. Get her number if you think she is uncomfortable talking to you in front of her friends. Another poster mentioned printing out contact cards. If you look at the pictures I posted last month, that girl is a civilian but she gets stopped all the time by foreign boys asking for directions or trying to talk to her. You might see her on the Internet on somebodies facebook surrounded by lustful foreign guys.

Another girl in my stable gets stopped all the time to have her picture taken by foreigners. And these are young strapping handsome blond guys. Both girls have told me stories and asked me why. I just laugh because I know they are trying to make me jealous. They are both on social media and somehow some guys get their contact details and make these funny offers of clothing, money and just REAL creepy stuff. Again, the girls would show me to try and get me jealous. I just laugh at the games that goes on. Luckily for me, I never really played those games. Read MonkeyPaws posts. Girls spend a lot of time or their whole lives learning how to manipulate boys.

Freelancers. I seem to be having trouble now finding freelancers. In HiSo, the girls are constantly in groups. In malls, I don't know where to look. They all seem to be Going somewhere. On WS, there don't seem to be many. Fields Ave seems to be full of ladyboys or massage girls.

Are my eyes not open?.

[Turgid]

....................Be careful in malls like SM because the majority of the girls there are 'good' girls. It's a different kind of hunting ground.

I wish you good luck in pulling 'good girls' from the malls if you are non-Asian. As we all know there is a stigma attached to walking with certain foreigners.

[Mogwai]

Freelancers. I seem to be having trouble now finding freelancers. In HiSo, the girls are constantly in groups. In malls, I don't know where to look. They all seem to be Going somewhere. On WS, there don't seem to be many. Fields Ave seems to be full of ladyboys or massage girls.

On WS and Fields the numbers vary a lot from day to day. Usually there are more on Friday and Saturday nights.
The problem with Pinays is that most of them won't offer themselves to you because they are shy. And if they do, they are not the best looking ones usually (like the girls in front of Kokomos, see my previous post). Another problem is they are walking up and down the street all the time. It's not like Beach Road in Pattaya where they are standing still and are easy to approach.
So you'll have to take the initiative. Follow them, smile, say hello.

Be careful in malls like SM because the majority of the girls there are 'good' girls. It's a different kind of hunting ground.

[Mogwai]

I have heard rumours that as of July 2 solliciting in the streets is not tolerated anymore in Angeles. It seems that the mayor is behind this. Can anyone confirm this? I can't find anything on internet.

According to a streetwalker I know they are not allowed to hang out in front of Kokomos anymore. But they can still walk up and down the street to look for customers.
So not much lost here because the girls hanging out in front of Kokomos are usually not the best ones. (With a few exceptions like the 22 yo little spinner, face 8, body 9, no kids, tight pussy, that hangs around there too quite often. Don't expect a GFE though, she's an optic fuck. But a great optic fuck LOL.).

[Dante702]

I've heard of Koreans paying bars to have a live in girlfriend for days / a week at a time.

Anyone here ever done daily rates? Or taken them on vacation with you? What rates are they asking, what rates are you guys giving?

Threesomes. When I had my threesome in AC (my first report here), the girls always wiped me off with wet paper towels or had me shower / wash every time I switched pussies. Is this a common thing anyone else here is getting? This was all bareback BTW. I understand it, but it kind of takes away from the experience.

[Goferring]

Re: dangerous / scam.

Is that a thing? Getting setup with a minor and blackmailed or something? I'm interested to hear what scams are going on in AC.

Sure it is. Guys get stitched up all the time. However, I've never seen a total innocent being harassed. Karma is a bit#h in Asia so if you play with fire (under a#e girls, violence, non payment for services delivered or just being a dickhead), you will get burned.

Stay under the radar and everyone will be fine.

[Mr Enternational]

Freelancers. I seem to be having trouble now finding freelancers. In HiSo, the girls are constantly in groups.
Are my eyes not open?

What is wrong with them being in groups? You think hookers must go out alone? Like Golfinho said, when you see someone you like go talk to them. Then you find out what angle they are coming from. Seems you want chicks to wear an I am a hooker sign.

[Golfinho]

Freelancers. I seem to be having trouble now finding freelancers. In HiSo, the girls are constantly in groups. In malls, I don't know where to look. They all seem to be Going somewhere.

Any help?

You 'don't know where to look'.

Some Help: when you see a girl that catches your eye, go talk to her. You know, like you do at home, or wherever you are.

[Member #4566]

Re: dangerous / scam.
Is that a thing? Getting setup with a minor and blackmailed or something? I'm interested to hear what scams are going on in AC.

Absolutely. Extortion. Pay up or threatened with jail. Be extra wary of girls working the street (WeChat etc). If there is a question of age insist on ID. Take a pic of the ID and send it to a secure account and make sure she sees you doing it. If she looks young even with ID don't do it. I have heard of phony re*ap allegations as a pretext to extortion. The police can be complicit in these schemes.

I believe that that Angeles is more dangerous for this thing than any where else in the PI. They are more schooled and experienced in dealing with tourists.

[Dante702]

Could be a setup with a minor or some other scam.

By the way: was the older lady you were talking about really an old lady, as in 50+ or 60+? Or was she just a little bit older than the other girls?

Re: dangerous / scam.

Is that a thing? Getting setup with a minor and blackmailed or something? I'm interested to hear what scams are going on in AC.

Re: older lady.

Much older, yeah, probably 50's, possibly 60's. Maybe 40's looking just heavily aged. Definitely over 40. Also, I just came back from AC a few days ago and I think I saw the same lady with one of the same girls. I think they legit weren't working together and are now legit working together.

Freelancers. I seem to be having trouble now finding freelancers. In HiSo, the girls are constantly in groups. In malls, I don't know where to look. They all seem to be Going somewhere. On WS, there don't seem to be many. Fields Ave seems to be full of ladyboys or massage girls.

Are my eyes not open?

Anyone getting pissed at finding girls you can't barfine (cherry) or girls that won't barfine?

Went to Voodoo 24 HR bar at 8 or 10 AM and got a no for a LT barfine request for the only hot girl there.

Went to some other bar, forgot name, and got a no for a barfine girl because she was a cherry girl, they said her sister's husband or boyfriend or whatever was an owner of the bar.

Any help?

[Dg8787]

Your title "Pinays are pre-lubed" is also another tip to remember when going for the bareback plunge. Having it slide right in will greatly increase the chance the girl won't be asking for a condom. Bang around the outside with alot of painful thrusts and the condom request is sure to follow. A little lube while your fingering her helps things along nicely.

I have not had a Pinay that needed lube. On a few occasions I put lube on the tip of my Willy to get it on the real tight ones otherwise I couldn't get in without putting a kink in my Willy. After insertion it is all slippery and wet.

As far as the 80 year old Grannies 2. 0 being all self lubed up I will take CM word on it. I haven't experienced any grannies at all. I will defer to his experience and expertise on it.

[Breadman]

Licking is not even necessary. When the Pinay is sucking your cock, just tell her that you "want to make baby" with her and she will let you ram it in raw and cum-in-pussy. Most do not like rubbers any more than mongers do, and complain if you use one because you are treating them as if they have "a sickness."

Your title "Pinays are pre-lubed" is also another tip to remember when going for the bareback plunge. Having it slide right in will greatly increase the chance the girl won't be asking for a condom. Bang around the outside with alot of painful thrusts and the condom request is sure to follow. A little lube while your fingering her helps things along nicely.

[PinaLove]

This works well and can cut costs if the OP is looking for a repeat ST before or after work. However, if he wants full days a bar fine will still be payable for every shift she is not at work.

The advantages of continuous "rolling" barfines are that she will be more of a GFE to say "thanks" for the ongoing income, you remove the risk from getting repeated unknown girls and yes, you get her for 24 hours per day (maybe minus a couple of hours to go home and get some clothes, if she needs them).

I agree with this. The price is the same but the performance is different. There is a difference with negotiating the rolling barfine with the bar v the girl. If the bar is doing the price then the girl will get a fixed price per day and the upside tips will come from you. If the girl has negotiated the rolling bar fine price from you then she will know how to optimize the pricing to the bar to her benefit through a combination of excuses; absences, sick aunties, etc etc. You will be the one to hand her the wad of cash which she will then manage to optimise to her benefit.

Negotiating before / after shift regulars has not been a successful strategy for me. They turn up late to meet but have a fixed bar appearance time. Then after shift they are tired or get a bar fine and don't arrive at all or want to get picked up at 3:30 am. Once there is a bar involved it's hard unless everyone is getting their cut.

Similarly negotiating with a call center girl is hard as they also have their shifts and need sleep. May not suit holidaying mongers. For me, I'm looking for a call center girl that works similar hours to me, means she's not bored when I'm working and also tired when I'm tired.

For tourist / holiday need to find a girl that meets your requirements. And it can be done. Just ask.

Pina.

[Chocha Monger]

Bareback is easy with young girls who do not have a kid. Sometimes difficult with those have kids. Having a kid before they are 25 is an ambition with Phi girls irrespective of marriage. After they have one kid they are happy although they struggle for support. That is where we come into the picture. Few thousand pesos will solve their immediate needs. IMHO they know very well long term stability with a foreigner is very rare even among the pretty ones.

They may marry older foreigners toget out of the country and according to my previous girls who have done that they are not happy at all. They do not fit into the western society well. Besides age difference haunts them. Hanging around with old wrinkly as a trophy wife irritates them because in western society it is rare.

That is true. The childless 18-21 year-old Pinays always want bareback cum-in-pussy, as baby making is their greatest ambition. They are happy to add a foreign monger's cream pie to their gene pool. Many of them come from remote rural villages where most of the inhabitants of the barangay are relatives to various degrees. Avoid dropping loads in the ones that already gave birth, as your baby will have to compete with the older kids for rice porridge and milk.

Taking a Pinay back to Western society is a great way to make your life hell. Pinays cannot kick their bad habits like borrowing money with no intention or ability to repay it. If a monger is married to one in a community property state, she can take on debts and bankrupt an old pensioner on a fixed income before he knows what hit him. The risk is very high for those with kids from the trike-driver boyfriend. They will try to wire ever-growing amounts of their husband's money back to their kids and relatives.

Once she realizes that marriage to a wrinkled dick is not the norm in Western society and becomes unhappy, she will start fucking all the young fellas with hard dicks who will start coming around. Eventually, she will divorce the old husband and upgrade. Pinays may describe themselves as 'simple' and 'humble' but they are very ambitious and calculating. They will always want more, and Western advertising and marketing will always have something that they need to buy with their husbands' money. Managing their expectations can easily become a full time job.

[Chocha Monger]

That has led to NSU for me there more times than I want to remember.

The risk of getting a case of thunder balls is the price of admission for experiencing a tight slippery hot Pinay puss in all its wetness. There is no way to dip your man meat into that ebony-lipped Pinay oyster and savor the raw sensations without consuming a few bad ones along the way.