Angeles City

[Breadman]

Licking is not even necessary. When the Pinay is sucking your cock, just tell her that you "want to make baby" with her and she will let you ram it in raw and cum-in-pussy. Most do not like rubbers any more than mongers do, and complain if you use one because you are treating them as if they have "a sickness."

Your title "Pinays are pre-lubed" is also another tip to remember when going for the bareback plunge. Having it slide right in will greatly increase the chance the girl won't be asking for a condom. Bang around the outside with alot of painful thrusts and the condom request is sure to follow. A little lube while your fingering her helps things along nicely.

[PinaLove]

This works well and can cut costs if the OP is looking for a repeat ST before or after work. However, if he wants full days a bar fine will still be payable for every shift she is not at work.

The advantages of continuous "rolling" barfines are that she will be more of a GFE to say "thanks" for the ongoing income, you remove the risk from getting repeated unknown girls and yes, you get her for 24 hours per day (maybe minus a couple of hours to go home and get some clothes, if she needs them).

I agree with this. The price is the same but the performance is different. There is a difference with negotiating the rolling barfine with the bar v the girl. If the bar is doing the price then the girl will get a fixed price per day and the upside tips will come from you. If the girl has negotiated the rolling bar fine price from you then she will know how to optimize the pricing to the bar to her benefit through a combination of excuses; absences, sick aunties, etc etc. You will be the one to hand her the wad of cash which she will then manage to optimise to her benefit.

Negotiating before / after shift regulars has not been a successful strategy for me. They turn up late to meet but have a fixed bar appearance time. Then after shift they are tired or get a bar fine and don't arrive at all or want to get picked up at 3:30 am. Once there is a bar involved it's hard unless everyone is getting their cut.

Similarly negotiating with a call center girl is hard as they also have their shifts and need sleep. May not suit holidaying mongers. For me, I'm looking for a call center girl that works similar hours to me, means she's not bored when I'm working and also tired when I'm tired.

For tourist / holiday need to find a girl that meets your requirements. And it can be done. Just ask.

Pina.

[Chocha Monger]

Bareback is easy with young girls who do not have a kid. Sometimes difficult with those have kids. Having a kid before they are 25 is an ambition with Phi girls irrespective of marriage. After they have one kid they are happy although they struggle for support. That is where we come into the picture. Few thousand pesos will solve their immediate needs. IMHO they know very well long term stability with a foreigner is very rare even among the pretty ones.

They may marry older foreigners toget out of the country and according to my previous girls who have done that they are not happy at all. They do not fit into the western society well. Besides age difference haunts them. Hanging around with old wrinkly as a trophy wife irritates them because in western society it is rare.

That is true. The childless 18-21 year-old Pinays always want bareback cum-in-pussy, as baby making is their greatest ambition. They are happy to add a foreign monger's cream pie to their gene pool. Many of them come from remote rural villages where most of the inhabitants of the barangay are relatives to various degrees. Avoid dropping loads in the ones that already gave birth, as your baby will have to compete with the older kids for rice porridge and milk.

Taking a Pinay back to Western society is a great way to make your life hell. Pinays cannot kick their bad habits like borrowing money with no intention or ability to repay it. If a monger is married to one in a community property state, she can take on debts and bankrupt an old pensioner on a fixed income before he knows what hit him. The risk is very high for those with kids from the trike-driver boyfriend. They will try to wire ever-growing amounts of their husband's money back to their kids and relatives.

Once she realizes that marriage to a wrinkled dick is not the norm in Western society and becomes unhappy, she will start fucking all the young fellas with hard dicks who will start coming around. Eventually, she will divorce the old husband and upgrade. Pinays may describe themselves as 'simple' and 'humble' but they are very ambitious and calculating. They will always want more, and Western advertising and marketing will always have something that they need to buy with their husbands' money. Managing their expectations can easily become a full time job.

[Chocha Monger]

That has led to NSU for me there more times than I want to remember.

The risk of getting a case of thunder balls is the price of admission for experiencing a tight slippery hot Pinay puss in all its wetness. There is no way to dip your man meat into that ebony-lipped Pinay oyster and savor the raw sensations without consuming a few bad ones along the way.

[D Cups]

Sammon,

True. Better to stay in the PI if you want to marry a Filipina. Guys who bring their foreign wife back to the Western country are making a huge mistake. The girl quickly picks up bad habits and attitudes from Western woman, frequently leaving him divorced and broke. I've seen it happen too many times!

[Sammon]

Manila is different. It is much easier to get bareback in AC than in Manila.

Bareback is easy with young girls who do not have a kid. Sometimes difficult with those have kids. Having a kid before they are 25 is an ambition with Phi girls irrespective of marriage. After they have one kid they are happy although they struggle for support. That is where we come into the picture. Few thousand pesos will solve their immediate needs. IMHO they know very well long term stability with a foreigner is very rare even among the pretty ones.

They may marry older foreigners toget out of the country and according to my previous girls who have done that they are not happy at all. They do not fit into the western society well. Besides age difference haunts them. Hanging around with old wrinkly as a trophy wife irritates them because in western society it is rare.

[Goferring]

Some guys find it easy to barfine the girl once and then negotiate with her direct.

PL.

This works well and can cut costs if the OP is looking for a repeat ST before or after work. However, if he wants full days a bar fine will still be payable for every shift she is not at work.

The advantages of continuous "rolling" barfines are that she will be more of a GFE to say "thanks" for the ongoing income, you remove the risk from getting repeated unknown girls and yes, you get her for 24 hours per day (maybe minus a couple of hours to go home and get some clothes, if she needs them).

[Turgid]

..........complain if you use one because you are treating them as if they have "a sickness."

....errr some of them do.

[PinaLove]

Maybe less people like to do this or I just can't find it on the forum, but what are the rates for having a girl for 24 hrs, 48 hrs, etc? Full days.

If you are negotiating via a bar then they will want the barfine price per day.

Some guys find it easy to barfine the girl once and then negotiate with her direct.

If you go the freelancer scene they will offer the most flexibility. By freelancer I mean truly independent woman not a worker controlled by another.

There are a surprising number of women in Angeles who are just happy to hang out.

PL.

[Lefeu]

The buyers and victims only ideology assumes that men always have all of the power and women are helpless. It ignores the evidence that the women selling pussy often victimize sentimental men, feigning love and emotional bonding to con them out of their homes and cash savings...

Astute analysis. I like it!

[Breadman]

OK, I'll give that a try. 90% is good odds. From Manila experiences of barfining, my impression is that the mamasans frighten them all away from it. And since you pay upfront at bars, you're left screwed if she refused, aside from trying to return her. Also, you're put into the position of the girl demanding more for Live, no condom sex, which I've been put in.

Someone posted awhile back that the girls in Manila won't do a 'runner' as in after one shot try to head back to the bar because 'you' pay them their amount in the morning. If you pay the entire amount including the girls cut to the bar then you have no control.

[Chocha Monger]

Come on guys. Once you get their panties off and start licking I have never had a pinay refuse bareback.

Licking is not even necessary. When the Pinay is sucking your cock, just tell her that you "want to make baby" with her and she will let you ram it in raw and cum-in-pussy. Most do not like rubbers any more than mongers do, and complain if you use one because you are treating them as if they have "a sickness."

[Naked Gunz]

Come on guys. Once you get their panties off and start licking I have never had a pinay refuse bareback.

That has led to NSU for me there more times than I want to remember.

[Nice Guy 99]

Manila is different. It is much easier to get bareback in AC than in Manila.

Come on guys. Once you get their panties off and start licking I have never had a pinay refuse bareback.

[Mogwai]

Re: barfining, condoms.
OK, I'll give that a try. 90% is good odds. From Manila experiences of barfining, my impression is that the mamasans frighten them all away from it. And since you pay upfront at bars, you're left screwed if she refused, aside from trying to return her. Also, you're put into the position of the girl demanding more for Live, no condom sex, which I've been put in.

Manila is different. It is much easier to get bareback in AC than in Manila.