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[KilledSoul]

Never done it myself, but thanks for suggesting it. I have used natural Tea Tree Oil and Eucalyptus based hygienic wipes after sleeping with brothel girls. Are you familiar with defense, the combat sports brand of soaps? Check it out! Its intended for people in wrestling, martial arts and other contact sports. However, they have not excluded themselves from the realm of sexual hygiene.

http://www.defensesoap.com/

Read their site a bit closer and some things they say allude to the ingredients in their products being useful in sexual hygiene. I'm sure they are being indirect for purposes of liability and regulations. They actually broach the topic of Herpes here.

http://www.defensesoap.com/ebooks/skininfections.pdf

The make some handy hygienic wipes..

Great suggestion. I checked out defense soap. I think it probably is great for MMA fighters who have to use some anti-bacterial liquid daily as defence soap does not interfere with your natural skin flora. But I would still go with Chlorhexidine as it is surgical grade. And there are Chlorhexidine wipes too. Maybe someone can pitch in some other germicide too. And then there are others who take preventive antibiotics too.

[Eszpresszo]

Great analysis Eszpresszo! What's your opinion in using germicides before and after sex? I use Chlorhexidine on my privates before and after sex. Do you think it is effective?

Never done it myself, but thanks for suggesting it. I have used natural Tea Tree Oil and Eucalyptus based hygienic wipes after sleeping with brothel girls. Are you familiar with defense, the combat sports brand of soaps? Check it out! Its intended for people in wrestling, martial arts and other contact sports. However, they have not excluded themselves from the realm of sexual hygiene.

http://www.defensesoap.com/

Read their site a bit closer and some things they say allude to the ingredients in their products being useful in sexual hygiene. I'm sure they are being indirect for purposes of liability and regulations. They actually broach the topic of Herpes here.

http://www.defensesoap.com/ebooks/skininfections.pdf

The make some handy hygienic wipes. I bought a box of the individually packaged wipes. I took these along on my last trip to Asia in March, and carried one in my shirt pocket. It drew some astonished looks from the girls when I whipped it out and the smell of Eucalyptus permeated the room. LOL. They went for the shower afterwards, while I wiped my privates down with this, first.

https://shop.defensesoap.com/defense...ody-wipes.html

Now they even make a barrier foam!

https://shop.defensesoap.com/defense-barrier-foam.html

I don't mean to do a commercial for this company. But, I do think they are acting in the interest of hygiene and public health. And along the way they seem to have something to offer the monger, too.

[KilledSoul]

I'm not suggesting that we underestimate the risk of sex with prostitutes. Rather, I am suggesting that we look hard to what is presented to us and be ready to be skeptical of anything that doesn't come from a truly scientific source. That means being wary of things you read on various dodgy web sites as well as unqualified opinions here on this forum.

Unlike Syphillis, Gonorrhea and Chlamydia there is no simple cure, making them seem like minor inconveniences in comparison.

Great analysis Eszpresszo! What's your opinion in using germicides before and after sex? I use Chlorhexidine on my privates before and after sex. Do you think it is effective?

[Nice Guy 99]

Man you must be a REALLY Nice Guy if a chick grabbing your dick and putting it inside and saying fuck me baby is one of your hottest moments in 30 years.

OK. To each his own. Her putting my naked cock in her pussy was a big deal. This was a PRC and they are religious about condoms. But I will never forget how good it felt slipping into that hot wet **** and cumming like crazy.

If you read my posts you know I had a bare back 3-hole pinay for 3 years, but it wasn't the same. The pinay asked me for anal when I first met her. She asked me for bare back. She had a full time job and was not a WG. IDK, I try to understand these girls emotionally, you should also.

[Titleist19]

Well, I wish I could report something like what Mr. Enternational just posted, so this report may seem sort of lame in comparison. Anyhow, I was in AC for a few nights over election weekend. Short report, as one of the nights a lot of stuff was closed due to the alcohol ban.

Stayed at Eurotel, 22 USD a night in a standard room. No fridge, no coffee / tea maker, quite short of any essentials but there was a hair dryer.

Perimeter bars:

Looking for some day time action I headed out first to Candy bar. It was around 1 pm, got it, and thankfully I wasn't the only punter in there. A depressing sight of 7 or 8 girls, all of whom were victims of the jolibee gut. I got harassed to buy a drink for one of the ladies. One girl came off stage to come sit with me, didn't buy her an LD but she was cheerful and made this visit slightly more pleasant. I left after a drink. Next door is Det5, which was closed due to alcohol ban. Can't even remember which other bars I walked into, maybe Ice bar and blue sapphire, both equally depressing with terrible line ups. I never came back to Perimeter.

Fields:

I spent most of my nights either at Skytrax or HighSo as I'm not the biggest fan of barfines. First night, there were some hotties at HighSo, some of which I struck out with. It was odd, as I normally won't cold approach a hot chick without her giving some sort of vibe or hungry stare. One girl was staring at me for about 10 minutes as I was walking around, when I approached her she had nothing at all to say. This happened both nights I was here and both times the girls did not go home with anyone as I stayed until quite late.

I did end up taking home a really nice looking, slim girl. I didn't realize how attractive her face was until we got in the room. Very sweet, she told me she was new, but she gave off more of a professional vibe, fine by me. Shower, then nice BBBJ, then when it came time to smash, I go soft after a few minutes. So finished with BBBJCIM, where she jerked me off into her mouth. We chatted for a while, said she was leaving AC the next day as she was just visiting friends in AC. Got another BBBJCIM before she left with 1.5 k.

Second night was alcohol ban, I hit up a few bars, very quiet, had dinner then retired. Was just tired and just wasn't feeling it.

3rd night, I randomly ran into a buddy of mine whom I met in BKK. We hit up a few bars. Pony Tails was terrible, left without having a drink. Ditto Brown Sugar, After Dark was closed, before we stumbled into Midnight Cruiser. It was pretty lively, with some cute girls on stage, and some of the waitresses were quite good looking as well. We stayed here a couple hours and had fun groping around a few sets of girls.

Ended up at HighSo again, and met some cool girls. Not the hottest, but chicks that make the night fun. Danced with all of them and they helped bring over more girls, and girls they thought I should take home LOL. I've noticed that Pinays are pretty good wingmen, they ask you what you like and then they go round the whole club and bring back a girl for you to see if you like them. I love that friendly nature the Pinays have. Anyways, ended up taking home a light skin blond girl, who was sort of a dead fish back at the hotel. It wasn't all bad, sometimes its nice for them to just take it without saying a word. She took it hard with no complaints, sent her off with 1.5 k. Then I was off the next morning.

My impressions of my second visit to AC are fairly lukewarm. Maybe its because of the election and alcohol ban, but a combination of very low talent and jolibee stomachs literally everywhere has me saying when I do come back, it'll only be for 2 or 3 nights max. Other notes, use tinder or the wechat discover feature but be careful of the ladyboys. I chatted with a few cute girls but we could never arrange a time that fit both of us. I also noticed every second bar or club has signs outside: dancers wanted, mamasans wanted with dancers. You get the feeling they are starved for talent, and its true.

[Mr Enternational]

Rolling around naked in bed on our first session after she struck up this "permanent" relationship she grabbed my naked cock and pushed it in her pussy saying "F me baby". Maybe one of my hottest moments in 30 years of mongering.

Man you must be a REALLY Nice Guy if a chick grabbing your dick and putting it inside and saying fuck me baby is one of your hottest moments in 30 years. The Filipinas that I know (pro and nonpro) do that on the regular as if they have all watched the same movie and heard the exact same dialogue. And it is funny as shit with their accent.

By contrast, I would say one of my best moments is when I was home in Thailand with this chick and she wanted me to go pick her friend up so she could drink in my room because it was her friend's birthday and she didn't want her to be alone. I went to get the girl and we were drinking a while. I was flirting with the chick whenever my girl was looking away. My girl finally had to go to the toilet, and when she came out of the bathroom she saw me fucking her friend on my bed. Without missing a beat, she came up behind me and started licking my ass.

Another would be when a buddy of mine met a chick that worked at the bank. She said her and her friends were getting a room that night and wanted my buddy to invite some guys. We had a wild orgy with those chicks and they were all married. We have done orgies before, but what put the icing on the cake was me and another buddy DP'ed a chick. At first she didn't want to because she said her husband would know if someone has been fucking her in the ass. But we talked her in to it. So she was riding my buddy and I came from behind to put my meat in her ass. The whole room was cheering.

And then there was Freaknik....

[Nice Guy 99]

I'd known her for eight years. She was a short time queen. Wanted to score 3 per night and then would come sleep with me long time. As she has aged she hooked up with a Canadian who gave a monthly stipend to get her to quit the business. He worked in another country but had many friends where she worked so she could not work the bar scene. Of course when I was in country she would still see me.

Rolling around naked in bed on our first session after she struck up this "permanent" relationship she grabbed my naked cock and pushed it in her pussy saying "F me baby". Maybe one of my hottest moments in 30 years of mongering. We have been bare backing for almost a year now. Actually it has seemed to make our relationship closer (yes, I treat WGs as real people with real feelings). She doesn't bare back her Canuck because he is not cut.

So the point is. There are circumstances where you can set up a safe bare back relationship.

Cumming inside her feels so good.

Of course, the Canadian is the only one being deceived and sold dreams of exclusivity because a prostitute is very trustworthy, and would never dream of telling every monger the same lie.

You are too much. After almost 9 years with her I know how to read her.

[Soapy Smith]

With regard to your intemperate post.

Your characterization is fair. I stand by my statements, but my tone was unnecessarily condescending. I apologize for the tone of that post. It was triggered by your characterization of Filipinas' vaginas as sewers. I felt that was an unnecessarily sweeping generalization. It also seemed condescending toward Filipinas, even if most of us have been exposed to a slice of Filipinas who happen to be prostitutes, and at any point in time some of them are carrying STIs. Since you and I have both admitted to having gotten an STI in the Philippines, would it be fair to refer to Western mongers in general as having sewer flowing through their penises? I just can't see any basis for assuming our moral or hygienic superiority over them.

On the lighter side, we ought not beat ourselves up in disagreements about sexually transmitted infections. Given the state of sex education in public schools for many of us during our formative years, it's no wonder that some of us get confused:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5xkxTfVLSA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N47aKq7uxa8

And it appears that for at least one Ivy League graduate, the situation doesn't necessarily improve with time:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...mp-orig-tc.cnn

[Oosik]

Had a four night, three day visit. As soon as I got in I started my traditional quest for my regular. To most guys a "regular" is a multiple repeat bedroom partner. In my case it is a dancer who I regularly look for and generally never find. Last visit, though, after three failures over a year and a half, I scored, and it was amazing. That, though, apparently reset the clock so she was back to being missing. The quest took me from Club Asia, "She work at Crystal Palace now!" to Crystal Palace, "She work at Club RA now!" and to Club RA, "No, she work at Crystal Palace!

Well, I guess three strikes and you're out. I did, though, find a couple cute waitresses at Club RA who proved more than willing to console me over my failure. EWR there is 3000 for the dancers, 3400 for the waitresses. It was a bit different from my previous AC BF's, and not just numerically. I had read about it here but this was my first "Let's go clubbing" experience. It wasn't that bad since this was one of the election nights so business was way down, at least early on. After poking our heads into several other places we ended up just hitting Atlantis, where I instantly had renter's remorse when I spotted a real cutie on stage, a cutie that would not be there when I returned on the next and final night of my stay. Then it was back to Kokomos. There was a lot of Tagalog (I assume) chattering, some of which I'm sure was, "Let's take him to an outdoor restaurant to see if the heat will kill him before we have to go to his hotel!

They failed, but it was close. I find the heat, even in the evening, pretty bad (right now it is about 45 F /7 Celsius at my place), but it could have been worse: we sat right under a fan and more importantly we did not go to Phillies as we had planned. Phillies, I learned the hard way, had live music, and not very good live music. Good or not, live music is not my thing: I'd have dressed in drag to get into a lifeboat on the Titanic, not to save my life but to get away from the band. The pizza was decent, though, so there was that. Then it was time for the Main Event. Well, almost. My room was non-smoking and because the bar was closed we had to go back downstairs and outside for a few minutes. At least this time I knew I had a shower waiting.

After that things went well, indeed. They were definitely into the safe sex thing so a LOT of condoms ended up strewn about, but eventually, VERY eventually, things came to a very happy ending. I suspect that the condoms and spending the last ten days sweating in various SE Asian countries were equally to blame, but they were good troopers and refused to give up. I was left lying in a sweat soaked spot in the middle of the bed. Note so self: Next time lie on one side or the other so I can have a dry side for later.

Other bits: Ponytails, my former go-to place for afternoon choices, disappointed again. I think I'll give up on them. Way too far to go to strike out. On the last day I tried Shipwrecked instead, really just to give the maids time to rummage through my stuff. Shipwrecked made Ponytails look adequate. I was only there for twenty minutes but the entire time there was just a slightly chubby, unsmiling dancer on stage, leaning against the wall with arms crossed. I scoped out the two other options I could see and decided not to wait for them to go up.

Club Asia has gone to the evening gown format with the exception of the three very unremarkable feature dancers (t-shirts and shorts) so one cannot really examine the goods prior to rental. God knows what those gowns hide: Fat, baby damage, Justin Bieber tattoos, penises, etc.

The girl who does the pole and curtains show at Crystal Palace was very impressive. The problem was that that was not what I went for. When I go to the bars I'm shopping. But impressive nonetheless. I really wish the bars would stick to the basics: Bar girls dancing on stage. Let's get rid of the beauty shows, Olympic tryouts, feature dancers, etc. , that seem to be multiplying.

Even with the Object of my Lust from the night before absent Atlantis was still great once the feature dancers dispersed. I find the trick is to get a seat against the wall to better fend off the massage girls. Another "Do we really need this?

So not the best of visits, but the best part was freakin awesome. I'll give it another crack in October or November. Yes, it is cooler then but the initial shock is a whopper: Instead of 45 F /25 Celsius difference from home it can be 110 F /60 Celsius or more. It gets better after a few days, though, if you survive.

Okay! Back to the STD's!

[Chocha Monger]

And since it provides absolutely no stimulation to one's erectile tissue, situated principally at the head of one's dick, it is utterly pointless.

While this is true for the majority of men, some fellas with a broken boner tend to have their erectile tissue principally at the tip of their tongues. The condition is analogous to the one that afflicted the protagonist in Deep Throat, specifically having her clitoris located deep in her throat.

[Chocha Monger]

I'd known her for eight years. She was a short time queen. Wanted to score 3 per night and then would come sleep with me long time. As she has aged she hooked up with a Canadian who gave a monthly stipend to get her to quit the business. He worked in another country but had many friends where she worked so she could not work the bar scene. Of course when I was in country she would still see me.

Rolling around naked in bed on our first session after she struck up this "permanent" relationship she grabbed my naked cock and pushed it in her pussy saying "F me baby". Maybe one of my hottest moments in 30 years of mongering. We have been bare backing for almost a year now. Actually it has seemed to make our relationship closer (yes, I treat WGs as real people with real feelings). She doesn't bare back her Canuck because he is not cut.

So the point is. There are circumstances where you can set up a safe bare back relationship.

Cumming inside her feels so good.

Of course, the Canadian is the only one being deceived and sold dreams of exclusivity because a prostitute is very trustworthy, and would never dream of telling every monger the same lie.

[Nice Guy 99]

I'd known her for eight years. She was a short time queen. Wanted to score 3 per night and then would come sleep with me long time. As she has aged she hooked up with a Canadian who gave a monthly stipend to get her to quit the business. He worked in another country but had many friends where she worked so she could not work the bar scene. Of course when I was in country she would still see me.

Rolling around naked in bed on our first session after she struck up this "permanent" relationship she grabbed my naked cock and pushed it in her pussy saying "F me baby". Maybe one of my hottest moments in 30 years of mongering. We have been bare backing for almost a year now. Actually it has seemed to make our relationship closer (yes, I treat WGs as real people with real feelings). She doesn't bare back her Canuck because he is not cut.

So the point is. There are circumstances where you can set up a safe bare back relationship.

Cumming inside her feels so good.

[Soapy Smith]

All well and good but do they fuck bareback only with men they know extremely well?

In the case of sexual partners, having a very good knowledge of their sexual activities is implied in my definition of knowing them extremely well. If I'm not sure, I cover up. Obviously people lie and deceive, as reported frequently in this forum, so knowing with 100% certainty about others' behavior is not possible. But minimizing risk by being well informed and observant seems to me like a reasonable aspiration.

[Soapy Smith]

Yes, though I also suggest going beyond government agencies and try to find info on contraction directly from researchers.

Thanks for your "temperate" and well-researched post. I have known some researchers who also hedge their answers, simply because it's difficult in experimental designs to control all the potential compounding factors. And I suspect much of the research is from reports turned in by government health agencies, which means from reported cases that walk into health clinics, and many of the data for these cases are self-reported rather than from controlled experiments.

[Eszpresszo]

The person you are quoting is well known for posting unfiltered hyperbole. This person may do this intentionallyto provoke othersor because the individual is mentally ill and just can't help it. Eszpresszo has aptly pointed out errors in this person's hyperbolic post. Please follow Eszpresszo's advice and get reliable information about STIs. The intentions of the person you are quoting have little in common with sharing accurate information. Here is one reliable source:

https://www.cdc.gov/std/chlamydia/stdfact-chlamydia.htm.

Yes, though I also suggest going beyond government agencies and try to find info on contraction directly from researchers. Why? Because government agencies are run by public health administrators who have a different agenda from an actual medical science researcher. The problem with public health administrators is they are often not medical scientists, if they are even doctors at all. They have an agenda, first and foremost to cover their ass, and if that means overstating the risk of some activities, then so be it. Or to put it more politely, they are apt to err on the side of caution. Scientists also have their agenda, and they are known to be competitive with each other and often very ego-driven. However, a scientist's credibility is based on their ability to deliver empirical evidence of their findings instead of mere theory. They aren't allowed to fudge things.

I'm not suggesting that we underestimate the risk of sex with prostitutes. Rather, I am suggesting that we look hard to what is presented to us and be ready to be skeptical of anything that doesn't come from a truly scientific source. That means being wary of things you read on various dodgy web sites as well as unqualified opinions here on this forum.

By the way, here is the CDC on whether or no you can get AIDS from oral sex:

"However, it is hard to know the exact risk because a lot of people who have oral sex also have anal or vaginal sex. The type of oral sex that may be the riskiest is mouth-to-penis oral sex."

https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/oralsex.html

Note the use of the phrase "may be", which is typical bureaucratic vagueness. I can no longer find the webpages, but I found two different articles where a medical scientist was queried on whether or not HIV could be transmitted from oral sex. Their answers were respectively, "No" and "Its possible, but extremely unlikely".

Peruse this page by the CDC on transmission of STDs via oral sex:

https://www.cdc.gov/std/healthcomm/s...andoralsex.htm

But look at the statement in regards to giving oral sex to a female. Under the tab for each disease, there is a statement that says "Giving oral sex to a woman with an infected vagina or urinary tract may result in getting (insert disease name here) in the throat.

However the asterisk is for a footnote which explains "* Statements followed by an asterisk have not been well studied. " In other words, they aren't sure of anything, hence the use of the word MAY instead of CAN or WILL. More bureaucratic vagueness in these warnings, in the absence of clear scientific data.

But, I won't be jingoistic here and I will quote the NHS on the topic of transmission through oral sex:

STIs that are commonly caught through oral sex are:

Gonorrhoea.

Genital herpes.

Syphilis.

Infections that are less frequently passed on through oral sex include:

Chlamydia.

HIV.

Hepatitis A, hepatitis be and hepatitis see.

Genital warts.

Pubic lice.

https://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/970.aspx?CategoryID=118

Note how the NHS cites a low transmission of HIV via oral sex while other sources flat outright minimize the risk.

As for contracting Hepatitis A from anilingus, its ridiculous to even talk about it, when there is a common vaccination for Hep A, that is typically bundled with the Hep be vaccine. Most kids in America get vaccinated for both at the pre-K age and a booster later in their early adolescence. The dual vaccination is requested upon enrollment in public schools in most places in the US. The HPV vaccine is now required of teenage girls to be admitted to public schools in some places.

Some of these things are totally avoidable by getting these vaccines. If you can get vaccinated against a STD, there doesn't need to be any discussion of getting it. I love getting and receiving analingus. I have been vaccinated, so I won't be giving or receiving hepatitis from butt munching. If we can get a vaccine for HepC, another major risk will be reduced. Its my understanding that it is being researched at this time. In any case, if you don't have the Hepatitis A / B vaccine, then go get it! Unlike Syphillis, Gonorrhea and Chlamydia there is no simple cure, making them seem like minor inconveniences in comparison.