Angeles City

[Tagalog2016]

Mongers like to think they are getting fresh farm-to-bed pussy from the provinces. The truth is that at least a hundred Flip dicks have already broken in the girls before arriving in AC for a cash dispensing walking penis to suck the pussy. Innocent girls do not just wake up and decide to go to AC to give rub and tugs to perverted grandpas, and suck the warts off their aged cocks without some prior experience in the business. The owners of the rub-and-tug shops are not going to risk the costs involved recruiting, housing, and providing uniforms for the girls unless they are seasoned in sucking and fucking for cash.

That is true. By the time girls come to AC, they are mostly seasoned hookers, who were fucked by hundreds of local dicks in their previous living place. Some mongers are confused, that some young girls look shy and inexperienced in regards of communication, which make them feel, girls don't have much experience with men in bed either. But that is not so. Lack of life experience has nothing to do with their sexual experience. It is ridiculous to think, that she was a good girl, living at her her province, and she suddenly changed her approach to life just when she got to Angeles. Moreover, I would dare to say, that those hookers who behave professionally with their clients already, were drilled by at least 1000 dicks, or more by that time.

In most cases it takes some time for Pinays to realize, that they are underpaid by locals, before they decide to seek their luck in a fancy place, invaded by foreign mongers. And even then it is not so easy for them to relocate, as some people think.

Actually a lot of Pinays start their sexual life being [CodeWord902]. Despite of quite strict laws, sex with an adolescent isn't considered as something condemned in Filipino society. It is quite common that a family accepts grown up suitor for their [CodeWord902] daughter, especially if he is quite well off guy.

One of my previous girlfriends told me a story, that she was raped by her paternal grandpa, when she was 13. She complained to her parents, but they did nothing. Moreover her father told her to keep her mouth closed regarding this matter. They lived 2 or 3 years more under one roof, before they relocated to another place. When she was grown up already, her [CodeWord126] grandpa asked her for some money, just like nothing happened at all. When he died, her parents demanded her to make contribution for his funeral, and argued when she refused.

Foreign tourists almost never visit provincial Philippines due to lack of infrastructure and lack of attractions. However, millions of people live their life there. Since sex is just a part of daily life for young Pinays, that is not a big deal for them to get laid, especially if men pay for that. Even in poorest parts of the country with severe unemployment, prostitution is a good and easy opportunity to start to earn at least something. The least well off social classes pay with small sack of rice or with fish, with catch of the day. In more prosperous places Pinoys pay with cash. Nevertheless, the market price depends on the purchasing power, so the actual market price for locals is far below the price of some fancy places, like AC.

It is a fallacy to think, that it is so easy for girls to relocate to Manila, Cebu or AC. First of all it is related to psychology of an individual. Not all people are easy going, many are afraid of uncertainty. It is very similar to Westerners. Some do travel on their own, while other stick to travel companies, who arrange everything for them. That is why many prostitutes prefer to live with less, than to challenge unknown.

Second of all, relocation is expensive. Not everybody can afford it. Most Filipinos don't have any savings at all, and it is a problem to raise money even for ship ticket to get to Luzon, not to mention they have to live somewhere and eat something in a big city before they start to earn, which is extremely expensive comparing to their home province.

Third of all, Filipinos used to rely on people they know. For example if a friend of a friend of a cousin of her friend managed to settle in Angeles City, then she considers it is trustworthy information, and she will inquire about details, how to get there, where to live, how much foreign mongers pay, etc. Information is transmitted by word of mouth solely. If Pinays don't have someone of their relatives or friends familiar with the state of affairs on the ground, they most likely will not go there. That is one of the reasons, why some girls don't relocate. They simply don't know how to settle and how to earn in a new place.

[SouthEaster]

They don't want us. They want our money. Jesus. It's not rocket science, or "romance".

[VicVeg]

For me that defeats the purpose of paying. I am not about to romance a chick and pay her too. I save the romance for chicks that don't require payment. In AC I want the nastiest ho I can find. This shit is all in your imagination. But if that is the fantasy that you like to pay for, then more power to you. I don't need a fantasy. I need a ho on her knees with my dick in her mouth. And for some reason I always get what I pay for and have no complaints.

LOL. Nastiest Ho you can find? Walking street. 3 am. 500 p. Pick her off the street and fuck her in the bathroom at Kokomo's. LOL.

Why fly 14 hours for that? Just go down to the inner city in your home town and find a meth-wh*re and bang her for $20.

We go to AC for the young girls who want us. And the variety of sexual experiences available to us all hours of the day.

I know AC is full of cheap charleys on a budget who spend lotsa money on beer and skimp on their whoring budget. But for us one-week-millionaires who are into it for the sex, then pay up for some fun. A nasty working girl can be fun, but hurry up, wash your dick with soap and then alcohol, change the sheets on your bed, and cleans your palate with a nice, clean 20 year old hottie that has a tight body, fresh smelling pussy, and loves sex. Just my 2 cents bro.

[Mr Enternational]

Romance matters bro. Even in a place as seedy as AC.

For me that defeats the purpose of paying. I am not about to romance a chick and pay her too. I save the romance for chicks that don't require payment. In AC I want the nastiest ho I can find. This shit is all in your imagination. But if that is the fantasy that you like to pay for, then more power to you. I don't need a fantasy. I need a ho on her knees with my dick in her mouth. And for some reason I always get what I pay for and have no complaints.

[Billy Baht]

It is beyond me why people do not understand this. And a lot of guys even like proving themselves to be that cash cow. (Can't get the pics in the right order, but whatever.)

Nice work buddy. You didn't bite on the 2 k offer so she eventually quoted you the correct price 1 k.

[VicVeg]

Like you said it is AC. So why even go through all this bullshit? Why not just tell the girl what you want before you take her to your room instead of playing cat and mouse?

Dude, it is the AC version of romance. Play around a little bit. When you chat up a bargirl, and she says 'I want to fuck you. ' in the bar way too soon and forceful, you just might be thinking she is a big HO, and not want her. She knows she needs to romance the situation some to make it interesting to the guy etc. People need to play hard to get even in a sin city such as AC.

When you have a massage girl in your room in AC, at least a HJ is implied. But neither of you know for sure how it is to 'go down'. The romance is the sexual massage leading up to the sell of the HJ (or more) at the end of the massage. For you and her. Her pussy is getting wet as you get nearer and nearer to sex etc. She might really be wanting to get laid or get her pussy licked or even to suck your dick (especially if she is rubbing a good looking guy's body for 45 minutes). And when you romance her with the sale, she gets wetter and wetter as it is a 'romantic' process etc.

The girl that will only give a HJ at the beginning of the massage, might agree to a forceful banging at the end of the massage as you 'romanced' her into it.

The next time you are with a normal girl back in your country, after a few dates once sex is on the table, try to just have her over to your house and say 'I want to have sex with you. ' Many high quality girls will say 'no'. But wine and dine them first, flirt with them, make them feel sexy and loved, and then she will be peeling your clothes off. And the romance process and the sex will be fun for you too.

Romance matters bro. Even in a place as seedy as AC.

[Mr Enternational]

Taking into account average living standards across the country, 200-400 pesos per fuck seems to be a realistic price, especially somewhere in province. Such low price will never be quoted to a foreigner, since foreigners in pinays mind are cash cows by definition, and thus, they should pay at least twice. Thrice more.

It is beyond me why people do not understand this. And a lot of guys even like proving themselves to be that cash cow. (Can't get the pics in the right order, but whatever.)

[Mr Enternational]

and the girl is rubbing on me, and pretending to not notice it and casually rubs around it, trying not to touch it, like a HJ isn't on the menu. They are FL massage girls off the street in one of the seediest Sin Cities on the planet and a HJ isn't on the menu?? Come on sister! Some will ask if I want it massaged, but some will just say 'that is the end of the massage', and want me to bring up the topic of extras.

Like you said it is AC. So why even go through all this bullshit? Why not just tell the girl what you want before you take her to your room instead of playing cat and mouse?

[Chocha Monger]

Prostitutes for locals do exist! It is naive to think, that Pinays work as a prostitutes to satisfy the needs of the foreigners solely. The supply significantly exceeds the demand from foreign tourists and expats. At the same time the demand from locals in huge.

Taking into account average living standards across the country, 200-400 pesos per fuck seems to be a realistic price, especially somewhere in province. Such low price will never be quoted to a foreigner, since foreigners in pinays mind are cash cows by definition, and thus, they should pay at least twice. Thrice more. Besides sex tourist hot spots, such as AC, Subic, Makati and Cebu, prostitution exists in every large city of Philippines and is aimed primarily at a local market consumers.

One girl from Tacloban told me, that market price in her city is 500 pesos per fuck, while other girl from Zamboanga said, that some jobless pauper girls from Mampang barangay used to sell their pussies in exchange of fish from local fishermen mongers.

It is a common practice for Filipino overseas workers to fuck one girl one after another. In Saudi Arabia outside of large cities, Indians supply one girl per week for each barrack, where 20 pinoys live together. Sure thing, they line up and fuck her in a row one after another. No wonder, they do the same, being at home to save some money.

The foreign mongers always overestimate their importance to the P4P industry in the Philippines. The foreign monger bars in Angeles City, Manila, and Cebu are a tiny fraction of a massive P4P scene catering to Filipinos. If all the foreigners left the country and never returned, the paid fuck business would continue to thrive without them. A couple years ago, a Filipino news channel broadcast a news report showing agricultural workers paying local prostitutes for sex with one-kilogram plastic bags of rice. Foreigners do not realize that they are paying several times the market rate for sex, and that AC, Burgos St, and EDSA are the big leagues where fat old foreigners overpay ridiculously for sex.

Foreign mongers fail to realize that Filipino men fuck the girls when they are younger. It is common for girls to make their debut in hooking during high school to pay for educational materials, fees, and meals. The make trips to the nearby cities on their islands to fuck Filipinos and occasionally adventurous foreign sex tourists. By the time, a mamasan recruits them to work the track in AC they are seasoned pros. They know how work a monger with shyness.

Mongers like to think they are getting fresh farm-to-bed pussy from the provinces. The truth is that at least a hundred Flip dicks have already broken in the girls before arriving in AC for a cash dispensing walking penis to suck the pussy. Innocent girls do not just wake up and decide to go to AC to give rub and tugs to perverted grandpas, and suck the warts off their aged cocks without some prior experience in the business. The owners of the rub-and-tug shops are not going to risk the costs involved recruiting, housing, and providing uniforms for the girls unless they are seasoned in sucking and fucking for cash.

[VicVeg]

Sometimes I think its much better getting my dick wanked than boinking. There is no danger of STDs, it will cost me much less and I will have the company of a beautiful girl.

LOL. I am the same way. When an AC massage girl gives me a massage, with the horrible business sense they have, they hardly give a 'sensual' massage. A nice tickle of my ass or ball bag would be nice! LOL.

Thus, at the end of the massage, I am hardly turned on at all. On the flip, I love it when I am buck naked and my cock is just wagging in the air, and the girl is rubbing on me, and pretending to not notice it and casually rubs around it, trying not to touch it, like a HJ isn't on the menu. They are FL massage girls off the street in one of the seediest Sin Cities on the planet and a HJ isn't on the menu?? Come on sister! Some will ask if I want it massaged, but some will just say 'that is the end of the massage', and want me to bring up the topic of extras.

But anyway, I start out thinking a wank is to be plenty, but it isn't until she is wanking my cock do I finally get sexed up, and I ask her if I can touch her boobs. Then I get a little more horny and ask to kiss her boobs. And with each iteration she is often asking for more $. The negotiation can be fun.

Then, I might ask for a BBBJ, and some will want to only give a CBJ. I usually don't go for it. And usually the BBBJ is so bad, that I will then ask to lick her pussy. She will ask for more $ for that! That is her pleasure!!

Then, after doing that (some won't want you to lick her pussy out of fear of smell etc), I will want a shag, and she will usually ask some huge price, and I will get some to lower it to a reasonable amount. The sex is usually ok-at-best but the whole song and dance getting there is fun. Seeing her 'give in' to a shag is enjoyable. She probably was ok if all she gave was a HJ and got a tip for that. But here is a big spender wanting to lick her pussy and bang her for a huge amount of cash (to her at least)!

And once in a while, the BBBJ will be so good, I say to myself: there is no way the sex is to be better than this and allow her to finish. Every girl has her 'specialty' in the sack, and for some it is BBBJ. For some it is laying there and staring at the ceiling.

Anyway, that is the beauty of AC. It is all so affordable, that you can 'play' around some and have fun with the process. I often turn down a girl's price offer for sex, just on the principal that she is being a greedy *****, or that it is likely to be horrible based on her attitude etc. It isn't paying the 60 usd I reject. Have fun guys!

[Mr Enternational]

I was referring to the posts here in Angeles about Pinays selling to Pinoys in the minor leagues, which I highly doubt.

I have no idea whether the young things in Pattaya start out in the minors or not.

Brother the game is the same all over the planet. Seen it in Brazil, seen it in the Dominican Republic. The only things that change are the locations and the players.

And like somebody said earlier, the locals are not giving them 3000, but that does not mean they are not fucking the locals at the local rate. The same as we can be in the same plane and pay different fares. Just like the airlines, hookers get what they can get from who they can get it from. They are not saying, well nobody will give me 3000 today so I am going home.

In Cambodia back in February my buddy got a chick for $40. The next day I got the same chick for $20. I told him that and he took her the next day and told her he would only give her $20 same as I did. Just cause you gave her a certain amount, don't think that she will not go for less than that with someone else. Don't get it twisted.

[Dg8787]

This is not true at all. I see it all the time in Pattaya. New chick comes from the country and I get her for a low amount. As time goes on and a bunch of guys start kissing her ass putting her on a pedastal and catering to her and giving her all kinds of tips, THEN a year or two later she commands more money. When she gets up in age around 35 that shit falls back down. They are not coming their first day asking for 3000. They are just getting their feet wet and know nothing about the game yet. They are happy to be getting anything. Same as a newbie monger will overpay, a newbie hooker will get underpaid. It is you monger guys that look at her and say you should be getting more, while a guy like me will come along and tell her she is lucky to be getting anything at all.

It is free if you put your own bucket out and catch it yourself. But when you have to depend on someone to run their own line and treat it and get it to you that is where the cost comes in.

I was referring to the posts here in Angeles about Pinays selling to Pinoys in the minor leagues, which I highly doubt.

I have no idea whether the young things in Pattaya start out in the minors or not.

[Mr Enternational]

We all know the young girls start out commanding higher money and as they age and are in it longer that their value goes down and eventually end up in the minor leagues.

This is not true at all. I see it all the time in Pattaya. New chick comes from the country and I get her for a low amount. As time goes on and a bunch of guys start kissing her ass putting her on a pedastal and catering to her and giving her all kinds of tips, THEN a year or two later she commands more money. When she gets up in age around 35 that shit falls back down. They are not coming their first day asking for 3000. They are just getting their feet wet and know nothing about the game yet. They are happy to be getting anything. Same as a newbie monger will overpay, a newbie hooker will get underpaid. It is you monger guys that look at her and say you should be getting more, while a guy like me will come along and tell her she is lucky to be getting anything at all.

Reminds me of a fellow that I once knew. Every month he would get real upset about paying for the water bill. He thought the water should be free! I asked him why should water be free? He replied water is rain, it comes down free, why should we have to pay for it?

It is free if you put your own bucket out and catch it yourself. But when you have to depend on someone to run their own line and treat it and get it to you that is where the cost comes in.

[Mogwai]

He replied water is rain, it comes down free, why should we have to pay for it?

I wish it was raining pussies more often, instead of cats and dogs.

[Turgid]

I don't agree. They make enough money wanking dicks that they set the 3-4 k price tag on their pussy because they don't need the money, and if they are to sell their youth and innocence, at least they are to make a butload of money doing it. They give the house 200 p, and pocket the rest. Bargirls have to shag 2 or 3 times for that amount.

In manila, I use to frequently call up an 18 year old call girl from an agency. When I first got her, she was sweet, and innocent and perky and fun loving in the sack. I could tell she enjoyed it and the money. I got her again a year later, after probably 100 dicks, and she was tired, acted used up, jaded, and didn't like the sex. She probably had made so much money and got the 'whoring' bug out of her system, that she didn't need or want to do it anymore. And like clockwork, the next time I went back, she was gone.

So the moral is: if you want sweetness, innocence and a good 'I want this' attitude, then be one of the first few dicks that she encounters as a pro.

Sometimes I think its much better getting my dick wanked than boinking. There is no danger of STDs, it will cost me much less and I will have the company of a beautiful girl.