Angeles City

[WorldWideScout]

I noticed A LOT more LE presence lately, especially tonight. Anyone have any insight?

Be careful out there. Might be a good time to lay low for a few days maybe.

[Bushes]

With fava beans and a nice Chanti? Picture Anthony Hopkins

The word "fried" was supposed to be "friend". I haven't been cooking any of the ladies!

[Chocha Monger]

I saw two hardened HO's laughing and singing in front of a bar one night: 'I don't want you, I only want your money. '. and they were alone of course. Who is to want an older, used up Ho??

That is just fine. Because I would join in with the two harden hoes on the pavement singing my line: "I don't want you, I only want your pussy!" LOL!

If they are hardened, I forget their names before I leave the bar. It is their problem if they like being nothing more than walking pussy vending machines. LOL!

[Cool]

If you can chat a cutie up in your hotel, why can't you chat one up anywhere else?

I rather they not initiate convo until the ladyboys move to their own turf like Tijuana.

[VicVeg]

Any amount of planning, talking, discussions will not guarantee anything. Remember these bargirls do it daily and they certainly know how and when to push buttons. They are not worried about reputation of conning people. They know tourists come and tourists go. There will always be many suckers.

Shy bargirls become fuck machines in the room and aggressive ones become docile. You need to accept good with the bad.

Bro. I love to agree with you. They can deceive, but we can be smarter than the problem and out bullshit the bullshitter LOL. Take them off their game by talking about sex more forceably than they are use to. And if they don't get taken off their game, then they are hardened HO's. If I tell a girl I want to lick her pussy until she cums on my face and I want her to suck me off until I cum down her throat, and she isn't a little put off, then she is a hardened HO!!

Imagine being in a bar in the USA, and having a girl come up to you in a bar and say those things. Even if she was attractive and you wanted to do those things with her, just the fact that she said that to a stranger will take even the worse monger off his game!!

I like the BG that squirms a little bit when I talk that way, but is still interested. That means there is still a little sexual innocence and / or curiosity left in her. And I like that innocence.

I saw two hardened HO's laughing and singing in front of a bar one night: 'I don't want you, I only want your money. '. and they were alone of course. Who is to want an older, used up Ho??

[Dg8787]

First rule of thumb is there are no rule of thumb!

Second rule of thumb. Refer to first rule.

I love how some "experts" have the inside knowledge of LD and barfining the "one"! About as useful as gambling tips at the casinos.

From their advice you can tell who has really been to the bars or not.

[Sammon]

Just tell the girl that you took Viagra and show her your raging boner that will pound her puss mercilessly all night long. When you do, make sure you are drinking Red Bull, Cobra, or Carabao energy drink. This will let her know that you are serious about drilling her all night long without taking any naps. If she looks startled and suddenly needs to visit the CR or go ask mama something and never returns to finish her drink, she is not the one you will want to bar fine. However, if she grabs it with both hands and starts jacking or sucking it, you have a winner!

Any amount of planning, talking, discussions will not guarantee anything. Remember these bargirls do it daily and they certainly know how and when to push buttons. They are not worried about reputation of conning people. They know tourists come and tourists go. There will always be many suckers.

Shy bargirls become fuck machines in the room and aggressive ones become docile. You need to accept good with the bad.

[GreenBud]

If she turns her nose up at you because you didn't by her a DLD then you have one less spoiled bargirl to bother with.

Many times I will buy them a double lady drink because I feel like the girl will think I'm a cheap charlie (which might be good depending on the circumstances, trying to save money). But the times I tell the waitress, "only a single lady drink", hasn't affected the attitude of the girl. It seems the girls are still interested in the barfine or the 50 pesos commission from the single lady drink. 50 pesos is good money over there. It buys them a decent meal of rice and some meat.

It's true what X Man said in which girls generally cannot or won't drink the DLD of SML quickly. But there's also a test on how fast she drinks the SLD cola. I use it as a test on her personality. Usually the Angeles girls take their time. Unlike the drink machines in Bangkok and Pattaya.

Sometimes I tell the girl that I will buy them a SLD for their 50 commission, but I will tip them 50 pesos to make up for the 100 pesos commission on the DLD. Then I use the 50 pesos tip to get a good fondle. Hence I save about 50 pesos overall.

At what point will they stop for 5 seconds and think shit that's a lot for a BF? 4000? 6000? 10000?

For me, it's 6000 pesos. I don't like spending more than $100 US. That's why I haven't recently picked up from Pattaya's Walking Street and Phnom Penh's Darlin Darlin.

From what I've been reading, it seems many bars are starting to raise their prices to 3500 on Walking Street. Hopefully, they won't raise it again for another 5+ years.

[Dg8787]

Cheap Charlie's have good advice for cheap Charlie's.

One week pesonaires have good advice for pesonaires.

One law of the universe is always true. Time is money. Some have more time than money. Some have more money than time.

People who always tell me it is “about the principal of it” is usually about the money.

[Mogwai]

I don't really accept the logic here. I try to get a good price on airfare and lodging, so why should I pay double to talk to a gal in a bar?

I think ED was only trying to say that IF you get ripped off, even though you try to avoid it, you should not make a big deal of it and just move on.

[SouthEaster]

Xman,

Stick to your guns. You have obviously been around the block as much as many of the posters here and are happy with your budget and how you spend your money. Why the hell should you spend money or double LDs if you don't feel like it. You mention the obesity contribution! How about the princess contribution? If she turns her nose up at you because you didn't by her a DLD then you have one less spoiled bargirl to bother with. If she only want drinks or guys with BIG personalities then to hell with her. Even if you are not a cheap Charlie (which I am!) some of these guys seem to come from places and act like the money grows on trees. Not where I come from! Same goes for WWS. He finds it hard to part with 3500 for a BF. Yes it's only 10 bucks more than 3000 or 20 bucks more than 2500 blah blah blah.

It is the fact that you don't get value for the high priced stuff too often that puts me (and many others) off and if I say fuck it and want to spend 1000 or 1500 on other options that's up to me. We can't all be 1 week millionaires. At what point will they stop for 5 seconds and think shit that's a lot for a BF? 4000? 6000? 10000?

How many days and nights of wining and dining "hot" girls and their friends from HiSo for not so much as a BJ? How many nights for $120 per day hotel rooms in a poverty stricken third world shithole where good $50 rooms should be plentiful and decent $30 rooms even more plentiful.

Go ahead and rip me a new one millionaires. I expect it but I know I am far from the only one that feels this way. Let the flaming begin!

SE.

[Chocha Monger]

Yes and no. If she grabs it, she might be a big old HO. They can be fun, but sometimes I want the somewhat innocent or sweet girl. They are so fun. Sometimes they will let their guard down and get 'lost' in the sex. They will stop acting like they are fucking a stranger, and instead having some good sex with a man she likes some. Lots like a young girl in college that has some recreational sex: yes, she wishes she was in love and making love, but she will sometimes have a fun romp with a nice boy that is good looking, and nice etc.

I talk alot of sex to them before I barfine them, to throw them off their game and see how they react. They might just be into being 'challenged' and taken to a place they have never been (having their pussy eaten with vigor, and given an orgasm, for example).

Anything is possible, as you never know how a girl is in bed until you give her a good ploughing. However, in my experience the ones that are enthusiastic and play around with you in the bar tend to deliver genuine GFE. The tightest juiciest rosebud I ever sampled in AC was a spinner who launched herself from the stage when I walked in, compelling me to catch her. When I caught her, she wrapped her legs around my waist and humped. I carried her to a table and she sat in my lap simulating that she was riding my rod and yelling she was coming. I took her with me and we rooted like long lost lovers. When we parted ways, she cried because she would not see me again. She was recently in from the province and did not have a cellphone, yet. In those days, they were not as cheap and ubiquitous as they are now.

In Manila, I walked into a bar and a stunning mestiza ran up, hugged, and kissed me. She looked more like a white-skinned Spaniard than a Pinay, and for a moment, I thought someone I knew from the West had caught me crawling monger bars. LOL! The world is a small place and I have run into friends and colleagues abroad on more than one occasion. Long odds but not impossible to be caught mongering. After we had a drink, she said she wanted to go with me but I could choose any of the other girls instead and she would not take it as an insult. I decided to go with her, and she did not disappoint. In fact, she started to come shag me free and refused anything other than a cup of joe after long nights of unclad drilling and caulking. Later on, she became a "good girl" and gave me girls who worked at SM mall and preferred natural fuck-buddy rooting instead of working bars.

Therefore, as far as I know, enthusiasm, crotch grinding, and pole grabbing does not necessarily mean she is a big ho. She may just be physically attracted to you and playful. I would be more worried about the shy innocent sweet one who agrees to everything in the bar and turns into a big stone cold ho in the room. LOL! "Innocent or sweet" is sometimes an act the professional predators use to lure mongers in the bar. They will make sure that you bust at least one nut before pulling a runner, so you cannot go back for a refund. LOL!

[X Man]

The word "fried" was supposed to be "friend". I haven't been cooking any of the ladies!

SNIP My last visit (March) I had a DIA gal and a bargirl fried. SNIP.

[VicVeg]

Just tell the girl that you took Viagra and show her your raging boner that will pound her puss mercilessly all night long. When you do, make sure you are drinking Red Bull, Cobra, or Carabao energy drink. This will let her know that you are serious about drilling her all night long without taking any naps. If she looks startled and suddenly needs to visit the CR or go ask mama something and never returns to finish her drink, she is not the one you will want to bar fine. However, if she grabs it with both hands and starts jacking or sucking it, you have a winner!

Yes and no. If she grabs it, she might be a big old HO. They can be fun, but sometimes I want the somewhat innocent or sweet girl. They are so fun. Sometimes they will let their guard down and get 'lost' in the sex. They will stop acting like they are fucking a stranger, and instead having some good sex with a man she likes some. Lots like a young girl in college that has some recreational sex: yes, she wishes she was in love and making love, but she will sometimes have a fun romp with a nice boy that is good looking, and nice etc.

I talk alot of sex to them before I barfine them, to throw them off their game and see how they react. They might just be into being 'challenged' and taken to a place they have never been (having their pussy eaten with vigor, and given an orgasm, for example).

On my last trip, I talked big sex to a cute BG at the Dollhouse, and she was OK with it, but not overwhelmed, and acted like I was being weird telling her I wanted to lick her pussy until she screamed etc etc. So I didn't barfine her. Then whenever I visited later in the week, she would avoid me. If she was on stage, she would purposely give me her back and be telling her friends about me etc. That is definately NOT a girl you want to barfine. What does she think all the mongers are there for if not licking pussy and pounding the rosebud? LOL.

[X Man]

I don't really accept the logic here. I try to get a good price on airfare and lodging, so why should I pay double to talk to a gal in a bar? If I buy the single, I can always buy her another one if the conversation is sufficiently titillating. I've never had a waitress nor a dancer show any kind of disappointment when I indicated I would buy a single price drink.

The double price drinks are usually bottles of flavored SM beer. One advantage would be that it takes more time for the lovely lass to drink it up. But you may also be contributing to AC bargirl obesity.

I haven't made it my goal to fight rising prices in the Philippines, but it's been over a year since I paid a barfine. My last visit (March) I had a DIA gal and a bargirl fried. DIA gal got 1 k, and the friend, a so-called spotlight dancer, got 1.5 k. She got that much because I got two pops and she has a newborn. Yea, I have a heart. It's also been well over a year since I used the services of an AC tricycle driver. If you really want to splurge, use a jeepney, pay ten pisos, tell the driver to keep the change.

BTW, I don't live in Philippines, but I usually visit several destinations in Phil. Three times a year.

The price difference between a single LD and a double LD is $3. 20. If you've already spent thousands of dollars on travel and accommodation in getting AC, you can't let little things get in the way of your ultimate goal. Just loosen up and don't be distracted by the noise. Everyone get's ripped off. You have to expect it in Asia.