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  1. #29906

    Well

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazeu  [View Original Post]
    But yea, for the city itself, if you were expecting anything other than a shithole, that's on you for not reading the forums, I don't think anyone has ever said there was anything else to do other than fuck and drink in AC.
    You can get quality dental care for cheap and go to the mall LOL!

  2. #29905
    AC is for some people.

    AC is not for some people.

    End of story.

  3. #29904
    Quote Originally Posted by JordCo  [View Original Post]
    AC is for nailing an abundance of 4's and 5's.
    Oh, that hurt, but its so true. I've looked back on some pictures of some AC girls from my past and man, even the ones I thought were hot at the time are painful to look at now.

  4. #29903
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatAmerican  [View Original Post]
    As a 34 year Caucasian living in Hong Kong you should have no need to monger. Unless you are butt ugly, fat and have no game whatsoever, you should have your pick of Civilian girls where you live. AC is what it is. Its past its hey day, its always been a shithole except for the bars, and the only attraction was BBFS with young Filipinas. You should have known that going in. Perfectly okay to say its not your preference but you don't have any excuse for expecting much different than you found.
    I don't agree with this. Even if he were a good looking guy, doing the non-monger scene is completely different and frankly exhausting. There's nothing wrong with wanting to bang some pretty hookers and keeping life simple. Hell, why wouldn't you want to do both at that age? As for the AC girls, I could understand how there would be some confusion. Half the guys here say its a great time, the other half say its on its last leg. But yea, for the city itself, if you were expecting anything other than a shithole, that's on you for not reading the forums, I don't think anyone has ever said there was anything else to do other than fuck and drink in AC.

  5. #29902

    Better alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Zboub  [View Original Post]
    Hello guys,

    It's my first time in Angeles city and my first time in Philippines, and I will not lie, it was my worst trip in asia if I compare with my previous destination.

    For your context, I live in Hong Kong for 6 years now and I travel quite a lot abroad, like each 1 or 2 month, mostly Thailand and Japan. This year, I'am trying to find new places.

    Last month I was in Cambodia and last week I was in Angeles city, I was in a bnb in a condo called One Euphoria, near walking street.

    I did all the bars of the walking street, it was "OK" in term of ambiance but I didn't find it that nice, Angeles city itself is quite lame, there is nothing to do, it's over poluted peolpe are nice but really, you don't want to stay outside or walk in the streets.

    My biggest disappointment was really about the girls, they are 95% overweight, old and ugly. I don't want to be rude but really girls eat way too much jollybee. And the small part that are not fat are already mothers, and they globally are lazy.

    I am a 34 yo Caucasian and I was looking for nice girls but it was a pain to find the good ones..
    Yes unfortunately unless you have other reasons to be in the city AC isn't the best way to spend a trip for your age. Next time I'd suggest pipelining or finding a few girls in Manila and doing some island trips with 1 or 2 of them. There's far better places in Philippines for younger guys looking for action. It's debatable whether or not AC is one of the worst places for younger guys as the better quality civvies have their guards up against foreigners and the p4 p action is hit and miss. AC is for nailing an abundance of 4's and 5's.

  6. #29901

    Less Excuses

    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatAmerican  [View Original Post]
    You should have known that going in. Perfectly okay to say its not your preference but you don't have any excuse for expecting much different than you found.
    You have less excuses for your ignorant attack on him and citing his post in full. People feel they are short changed in tourist spots all the time. Copenhagen's Little Mermaid is just that, a little mermaid. People flock to Horseguards parade in London to pet a fgking horse. People go to Angeles and find the little tubbies are not to their liking. Years ago, I hit the bars in Berlin where the women were supposed to outnumber the men by 10 to 1. That was the ratio in 1946, not when I got there.

    Zboub gave a good report, one of the best in fact, which will help guys determine if Angeles is for them or not.

    The meat Zboub was after is largely taken up by the Koreans or gone abroad in search of bigger bucks. I have dined with Koreans' babes and notes how well they were shod, compared to the other locals in their 200 PHP blouses. Come to think of it, I don't see so many boob jobs or duck lips. Compared to Pattaya or elsewhere, Angeles would be less commercially developed, more Butlins than Mara Logo. Also, his type of lady would probably be more into hitting the beaches and the clubs rather than hanging around, as he puts it, "American elders", who have plenty of tubbies to cater to their needs.

    Treat this site more like Amazon than trustpilot. Read the 1* star reviews as they are the most informative in arriving at decisions. Form my point of view, as "an elder", Zboub's post was very useful.

  7. #29900

    Brief report

    Found a bar that is off the beaten path a bit. It is on the same street as wild aces poker room, just a few blocks further down (heading away from walking street). There is a painting on the wall of a lady and it is showing her snatch LOL. Anywy they offer in house service for 1500 pesos. Lady drinks are 200. The selection is pretty mediocre, except they had one girl who was pretty cute. Probably. Anyway I bought this old lady (she claimed she was 36) a drink and dry humped her for a while before heading out to walking street. Almost took her up on the barfine too.

    Instead I ended up going to mascarade, which was a lot of fun. Unfortunately I made a bad choice with my 4500 barfine. The sex was decent enough (except she don't suck dick apparently) but then she kept whining about going bar hopping so I let her leave. I was happy enough to be rid of her no connection whatsoever except the sex was good. Spending the night with her would have been torture probably. But there were two other girls there that I really regret not taking. Note to self: do more thorough interview.

  8. #29899
    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman  [View Original Post]
    Now on a bar note I was talking with a buddy here about how tired I am of calling a girl over, buying a ladydrink only to be told 'menstration' or one of those excuses. What your getting at some of these bars is girls not going with customers (or only the ones they like) and living off the lady drinks.
    I've always seen Lady Drinks and Barfines as two separate events and one doesn't influence the other. This is especially true in these days of drinks only girls.

    That's why I like Burgos. It's expensive but for the price of a drink I get a hand full of snatch or a face full of tits there and then. To me that's $10 well spent. I'm not tying to curry favour for accepting a future bar fine.

    Look at it from the girls side. For those who do bar fine, she doesn't want to sit with a guy slowly sipping drinks only to find out at closing time that her time would have been better spent with a guy who would have given her a bar fine plus tip three hours ago. To her, the LDs doesn't guarantee she will provide the purchaser anything in the future.

    Real world example:

    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    The hypothetical you should have paid the BF before she got up. Any car (or girl) on the lot is for sale until cash is received. Repeated test drives (or drinks) mean nothing until a downpayment is received.

    A while ago I was a regular patron of a primary dancer in a Philippine club. Gorgeous girl and bat-shit crazy enough to be spectacular in bed. The only down side was that she wasnt allowed to leave the premises before midnight. One night I walked in mid way through the evening and sat down. She got up from the table of guys buying her drinks and came over to me knowing I would BF her there and then. Which I immediately did saying I would be back later to collect her. She then went back to the guys expecting everything to be ok and for the drinking and flirting to continue. As I said, she wasn't the brightest. Needless to say her suitor erupted at her: "WTF was that? I've been buying you drinks all night". Her reply was simply "You snooze, you loose!

    Maybe a prick act on my part but in many ways she was right. Just as there was nothing stopping her cementing a deal, there was nothing to stop her sitting there all night only to have John decide he was going home alone.
    Enjoy. G.

  9. #29898
    Quote Originally Posted by Zboub  [View Original Post]
    Hello guys,

    It's my first time in Angeles city and my first time in Philippines, and I will not lie, it was my worst trip in asia if I compare with my previous destination.

    For your context, I live in Hong Kong for 6 years now and I travel quite a lot abroad, like each 1 or 2 month, mostly Thailand and Japan. This year, I'am trying to find new places.

    Last month I was in Cambodia and last week I was in Angeles city, I was in a bnb in a condo called One Euphoria, near walking street.

    I did all the bars of the walking street, it was "OK" in term of ambiance but I didn't find it that nice, Angeles city itself is quite lame, there is nothing to do, it's over poluted peolpe are nice but really, you don't want to stay outside or walk in the streets.

    My biggest disapointment was really about the girls, they are 95% overweight, old and ugly. I don't want to be rude but really girls eat way too much jollybee. And the small part that are not fat are already mothers, and they globally are lazy.

    I am a 34 yo Caucasian and I was looking for nice girls but it was a pain to find the good ones.

    I read this thread since long time in order to prepare my trip and again, I don't want to be rude, but guys, it seems that many here have low criteria for girls.

    For exemple, many talked about the lollipop, I went there everyday afternoon and night, and there was absolutely nothing special, few girls for a lot of american elders.

    Through all the walking street, the more beautifull girls for me was in bar nana, they say they are VIP bar with only beautifull girls, and it was true, but it comes with a price 6000 peso to 9000 peso depending of girls, and even with that price the service was not good, girls were lazy as soon a you enter the room, so I took two girls in Bar nana (6000 p), one in Baccara (5000 p) and one arabesque (4000 p)?

    I also went to the Hammer to find some girls or to drink and dance with some bar girls I barfine it's a nice place.

    Bar XS is nice for the shows, and I was often going to play pool in the afternoon.

    Perhaps I did wrong or didn't go to the good places, but I don't think I will come back to Angeles city again, the beautifull phillipina are already in HK.

    I see that people compare AC with Pattaya, and I will totally disagree, soi6 is full of nice girls starting 1 pm, there is nice food, the sea is near and globally you can walk in the street and enjoy.

    Hope that my review can help people that idealize AC too much, if you go there for a first time don't expect much.

    Best regards.
    As a 34 year Caucasian living in Hong Kong you should have no need to monger. Unless you are butt ugly, fat and have no game whatsoever, you should have your pick of Civilian girls where you live. AC is what it is. Its past its hey day, its always been a shithole except for the bars, and the only attraction was BBFS with young Filipinas. You should have known that going in. Perfectly okay to say its not your preference but you don't have any excuse for expecting much different than you found.

  10. #29897
    Thanks for taking to time to post your review. I think as a monger on the younger side of life, your standards are probably a bit higher than many on this board. I mean no offense to others but some of the photos I see on here of girls are to put it lightly less than appealing. LOL. To each his merry own, I'm glad everyone has their thing.

    One other thing, is that after mongering many years, I think one's taste gets more refined.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zboub  [View Original Post]
    Hello guys,

    It's my first time in Angeles city and my first time in Philippines, and I will not lie, it was my worst trip in asia if I compare with my previous destination.

    For your context, I live in Hong Kong for 6 years now and I travel quite a lot abroad, like each 1 or 2 month, mostly Thailand and Japan. This year, I'am trying to find new places.

    Last month I was in Cambodia and last week I was in Angeles city, I was in a bnb in a condo called One Euphoria, near walking street.

    I did all the bars of the walking street, it was "OK" in term of ambiance but I didn't find it that nice, Angeles city itself is quite lame, there is nothing to do, it's over poluted peolpe are nice but really, you don't want to stay outside or walk in the streets.

    My biggest disapointment was really about the girls, they are 95% overweight, old and ugly. I don't want to be rude but really girls eat way too much jollybee. And the small part that are not fat are already mothers, and they globally are lazy.

    I am a 34 yo Caucasian and I was looking for nice girls but it was a pain to find the good ones.

    I read this thread since long time in order to prepare my trip and again, I don't want to be rude, but guys, it seems that many here have low criteria for girls.

    For exemple, many talked about the lollipop, I went there everyday afternoon and night, and there was absolutely nothing special, few girls for a lot of american elders.

    Through all the walking street, the more beautifull girls for me was in bar nana, they say they are VIP bar with only beautifull girls, and it was true, but it comes with a price 6000 peso to 9000 peso depending of girls, and even with that price the service was not good, girls were lazy as soon a you enter the room, so I took two girls in Bar nana (6000 p), one in Baccara (5000 p) and one arabesque (4000 p)?

    I also went to the Hammer to find some girls or to drink and dance with some bar girls I barfine it's a nice place.

    Bar XS is nice for the shows, and I was often going to play pool in the afternoon.

    Perhaps I did wrong or didn't go to the good places, but I don't think I will come back to Angeles city again, the beautifull phillipina are already in HK.

    I see that people compare AC with Pattaya, and I will totally disagree, soi6 is full of nice girls starting 1 pm, there is nice food, the sea is near and globally you can walk in the street and enjoy.

    Hope that my review can help people that idealize AC too much, if you go there for a first time don't expect much.

    Best regards.

  11. #29896

    Good Honest Review But

    Quote Originally Posted by Zboub  [View Original Post]
    My biggest disapointment was really about the girls, they are 95% overweight, old and ugly. I don't want to be rude but really girls eat way too much jollybee. And the small part that are not fat are already mothers, and they globally are lazy..
    They don' have too much Jolybee as that is above their budget. Poverty gets them eating crap food. As regards better Pinay hookers elsewhere, that is because there is much more money elsewhere.

    You mentioned American elders and, yes, some of them are very old, 80 and above in some cases.

    But regard it as casinos. Angeles is spit and sawdust. Other places are las Vegas. Different gigs for different mugs.

  12. #29895

    Honest review.

    Hello guys,

    It's my first time in Angeles city and my first time in Philippines, and I will not lie, it was my worst trip in asia if I compare with my previous destination.

    For your context, I live in Hong Kong for 6 years now and I travel quite a lot abroad, like each 1 or 2 month, mostly Thailand and Japan. This year, I'am trying to find new places.

    Last month I was in Cambodia and last week I was in Angeles city, I was in a bnb in a condo called One Euphoria, near walking street.

    I did all the bars of the walking street, it was "OK" in term of ambiance but I didn't find it that nice, Angeles city itself is quite lame, there is nothing to do, it's over poluted peolpe are nice but really, you don't want to stay outside or walk in the streets.

    My biggest disapointment was really about the girls, they are 95% overweight, old and ugly. I don't want to be rude but really girls eat way too much jollybee. And the small part that are not fat are already mothers, and they globally are lazy.

    I am a 34 yo Caucasian and I was looking for nice girls but it was a pain to find the good ones.

    I read this thread since long time in order to prepare my trip and again, I don't want to be rude, but guys, it seems that many here have low criteria for girls.

    For exemple, many talked about the lollipop, I went there everyday afternoon and night, and there was absolutely nothing special, few girls for a lot of american elders.

    Through all the walking street, the more beautifull girls for me was in bar nana, they say they are VIP bar with only beautifull girls, and it was true, but it comes with a price 6000 peso to 9000 peso depending of girls, and even with that price the service was not good, girls were lazy as soon a you enter the room, so I took two girls in Bar nana (6000 p), one in Baccara (5000 p) and one arabesque (4000 p)?

    I also went to the Hammer to find some girls or to drink and dance with some bar girls I barfine it's a nice place.

    Bar XS is nice for the shows, and I was often going to play pool in the afternoon.

    Perhaps I did wrong or didn't go to the good places, but I don't think I will come back to Angeles city again, the beautifull phillipina are already in HK.

    I see that people compare AC with Pattaya, and I will totally disagree, soi6 is full of nice girls starting 1 pm, there is nice food, the sea is near and globally you can walk in the street and enjoy.

    Hope that my review can help people that idealize AC too much, if you go there for a first time don't expect much.

    Best regards.

  13. #29894
    Quote Originally Posted by Fastpiston  [View Original Post]
    The cure for high prices is high prices!
    Quote Originally Posted by Fastpiston  [View Original Post]
    AC is dying with it's main revenue source drying up.
    Lifting prices during lean times is pretty standard practice in most of Asia. Makes no sense but I can remember houses remaining vacant for years during the various crises rather than dropping rents to get a tenant. Though I must say that may have changed recently. Both pussy and housing prices dropped for those that remained in the market during the pandemic.

    Not sure I'd agree that hookers are a majority of AC's cash and graft economy. If anything I'd say it's shrinking so both customers and suppliers are investigating options. I know guys who are bypassing AC in favour of Pattaya or remaining in country but abandoning 5 k barfines for 1 k provincial pussy.

    To each their own.

    Enjoy. G.

  14. #29893
    Quote Originally Posted by Fastpiston  [View Original Post]
    Take away the girls and AC is just another very unattractive provincial town. There was hope that Clark would be Manila's airport, that's now over with the new airport at Bulacan. AC is dying with it's main revenue source drying up.
    Will Clark stay open to passenger traffic is the question on my mind. If they build a rail line from Bulacan airport to Angeles with cheaper airfare will people still fly into Clark? But I don't think the girls will go away anytime soon. The revenue isn't the airport, its the guys coming here to spend their money. The guys will just switch airports. Clark might eventually be shut to commercial traffic, I could see the military taking it over once again. Now if the rail line made stops on the way north and dropped people off near say SM Clark Mall that would really hurt the taxi mafi's income from airport traffic.

    Now on a bar note I was talking with a buddy here about how tired I am of calling a girl over, buying a ladydrink only to be told 'menstration' or one of those excuses. What your getting at some of these bars is girls not going with customers (or only the ones they like) and living off the lady drinks. Hotter the girl the more money she can make. So we talked about 'asking the girl upfront if she was up to barfining before a waitress came over. Do you look bad not automatically buying a drink is the issue. So I go out drinking and meet another buddy of mine and I'm shocked he says the same thing, says he's been buying so many ladydrinks and getting shot down that its really adding up. I told him go for it, ask the girl before the waitress can bring a drink. Have to say it was an amazing sight, bar after bar he'd call a girl off stage and she'd come over and he'd say 'so you want to barfine and go have fun tonight?' and any girl that said stuff like 'I'm tired now' got sent back to the stage with him shooing away the waitress.

    On a traffic jam note. They now have a guy directing traffic right near walking street. Before he arrives traffic flows nicely, the Filipinos drive their normal crazy way and it works. Then he shows up and starts trying to stop and start traffic and everything comes to a standstill. Funny thing the other day his boss must have shown up to observe and tried to take over directing traffic. And the same traffic jam happened. People coming off the side street now had stopped cars keeping them from getting out of the way and they then blocked traffic coming the other direction. Funny and sad to watch. Had they stopped directing traffic I'm sure the flow would have returned.

  15. #29892
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    I'd suggest that the internet, spread of the middle class and sponsorship daddies pose a much greater threat to mongers than new urban planning. There was a time when NGOs were the only threat but now it seems to be coming from all sides. Not to mention the girls' falling preference for white meat. 😜.

    However, as long as the PI keeps pumping out destitute single moms, then there will always be pussy somewhere.

    G.
    But a lot will go online and work their webcams from home. Webcams will work more and more as Western women become ever more abnoxious.

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