Angeles City

[NapaSlapper]

Re Nifty's Perimeter Road.

Nifty's was a great fun place. Then about 2 or so years ago they got mixed up in the Police Raids, they also had Yellow T Shirted Council 'Inspectors' sitting inside the bar to ensure no sex on premises and no bar fines.

The beginning of the end.

Yes, no longer a must visit bar. No decent looking girls there nowadays. On its death legs. Also on the corner with Perimeter is where an Englishman was shot dead for his old mobile phone and small pesos. Not a safe area.

The constant bar raids were the beginning of the end for most angeles bars.

As far as safety, I would not be walking around anywhere on perimeter road after dark, there has been a stream of newspaper reports of guys being robbed / killed in this area, both Europeans and Koreans.

My advice for perimeter bar hops is go early, have a couple of beers, try to find a girl and leave early, if its evening then don't walk, call the hotel car or use public transport (watch for pickpockets on jeepneys).

Want to be out at night then barhop on fields avenue, walking street would be fairly safe, the only down side in walking this area is the ladyboys, begging children and constant hawkers, but ones life should not be at risk here.

Obviously stay reasonably sober all over the phills if one is out alone at night.

[Wicked Roger]

But how to get rid of them afterward.

So, now I am thinking of putting Angeles first. I wonder how many of those DIA profiles are from bar girls. Any advice would be appreciated.

Plenty of advice on the board on how to get rid of those you don't want hanging around after the deed.

As for bar girls on DIA? Well ask them? Simple really, many from AC likely would be but who knows. I have met DIA girls who were bar girls from many different cities and how I found out was asking them when you chat with them.

Sometimes I wonder LOL.

[Sxxxx]

Re Nifty's Perimeter Road.

Marginal is being too kind. Have you looked in there lately? It's a horror show.

Nifty's was a great fun place. Then about 2 or so years ago they got mixed up in the Police Raids, they also had Yellow T Shirted Council 'Inspectors' sitting inside the bar to ensure no sex on premises and no bar fines.

The beginning of the end.

Yes, no longer a must visit bar. No decent looking girls there nowadays. On its death legs. Also on the corner with Perimeter is where an Englishman was shot dead for his old mobile phone and small pesos. Not a safe area.

[Janboi]

I am planning a trip. Like a month in Chiang Mai, a month in Sihanouk then three weeks in Angeles. Started looking on Daie In Asia for ladies to pipeline for day game. I have already been contacted by one Free-lancer and have collected 50+ cell numbers. I don't know if I can seduce good girls. I mean I can seduce them. But how to get rid of them afterward.

So, now I am thinking of putting Angeles first. I wonder how many of those DIA profiles are from bar girls. Any advice would be appreciated.

[NapaSlapper]

Because one person is not always dependant on another for money. Therefore there is no money to end in order for sex to be ended. I have said it on ISG 1 million times. However the relationship starts, that is how it has to continue. So if you choose to set the tone with money then you will have to keep the money coming.

I would never give money to a chick that I am dating. I only pay hookers. My girlfriend in AC works in a massage shop and when I go there for massages she won't even let me tip her and has never asked me for 1 peso. I would say that is the difference.

Agree 100% Mr E, nail on the head.

[Wicked Roger]

If I may interrupt the discussions on price policing and job classifications of late.

Does anyone know what happened to Harry the Horse August newsletter?

Was wondering the same DG as last month he had an issue with Russian hackers that delayed him and also reduced the content etc.

Harry had not been well of late was told but there is a new guy handling the site now.

[Dg8787]

If I may interrupt the discussions on price policing and job classifications of late.

Does anyone know what happened to Harry the Horse August newsletter?

[Betong]

Niftys (Perimeter Road). The girls are mostly marginal and / or chubby, but if you want that experience...

Marginal is being too kind. Have you looked in there lately? It's a horror show.

[Mr Enternational]

How, then, is dating (with sex) or marriage *not* prostitution? Just asking a question.

Because one person is not always dependant on another for money. Therefore there is no money to end in order for sex to be ended. I have said it on ISG 1 million times. However the relationship starts, that is how it has to continue. So if you choose to set the tone with money then you will have to keep the money coming.

I would never give money to a chick that I am dating. I only pay hookers. My girlfriend in AC works in a massage shop and when I go there for massages she won't even let me tip her and has never asked me for 1 peso. I would say that is the difference.

[Dg8787]

In any sexual relationship, when person "a" depends on person 'be' for money, then person "a" is a prostitute (it does not matter whether "a" is a man or woman). The very definition: Trading sex for money. If ending the money ends the sex (it always does), then prostitution was occurring.

How, then, is dating (with sex) or marriage *not* prostitution? Just asking a question.

For the righteous, the same theory applies when you are working at a job or for a client you don't like. You are whoring yourself.

No offense intended. Just setting the record straight here.

[WestCoast1]

In your explanation all girls can be classified as prostitutes. Dating involves spending money, giving gifts. Does that mean those girls are prostitutes if you end up in bed together? If so even buying a girl drink at the bar and later taking her home and having sex with her classifies her as a prostitute.

IMHO if you offer money for sex with a girl she is a prostitute. In other words she is selling her body for your pleasure and you are compensating with purely money with no emotional attachments.

In any sexual relationship, when person "a" depends on person 'be' for money, then person "a" is a prostitute (it does not matter whether "a" is a man or woman). The very definition: Trading sex for money. If ending the money ends the sex (it always does), then prostitution was occurring.

How, then, is dating (with sex) or marriage *not* prostitution? Just asking a question.

[Sammon]

What you did was pay a few prostitutes college education. Nothing wrong with that if you are happy with the situation and they will obviously be thrilled with it. Guys all the time are trying to justify what they are doing or sugarcoat things. "no she isn't a working girl" etc etc. Just a couple days ago here in Cartagena a guy was talking to us all happy that he found a non-pro according to him on a dating site. He was excited that they were going to dinner and afterward back to the Hilton. FOR the equivalent of $133. Sorry to him and sorry to everyone else that believes in their "non-pro". You fuck a girl and pay her money she is a prostitute! A girl I spent a ton of time in 2010 in Bogota with. I fucked her but never paid her a peso, BUT BUT I paid her phone bill and electricity and internet at times. Making her what? A prostitute! No need to be ashamed of that guys.

In your explanation all girls can be classified as prostitutes. Dating involves spending money, giving gifts. Does that mean those girls are prostitutes if you end up in bed together? If so even buying a girl drink at the bar and later taking her home and having sex with her classifies her as a prostitute.

IMHO if you offer money for sex with a girl she is a prostitute. In other words she is selling her body for your pleasure and you are compensating with purely money with no emotional attachments.

[Soldierb11]

College girls having sex with older men is not stories. They really do happen. I have sponsored few girls through college. They all started out as dating site contacts, sex and if I liked support their education..

What you did was pay a few prostitutes college education. Nothing wrong with that if you are happy with the situation and they will obviously be thrilled with it. Guys all the time are trying to justify what they are doing or sugarcoat things. "no she isn't a working girl" etc etc. Just a couple days ago here in Cartagena a guy was talking to us all happy that he found a non-pro according to him on a dating site. He was excited that they were going to dinner and afterward back to the Hilton. FOR the equivalent of $133. Sorry to him and sorry to everyone else that believes in their "non-pro". You fuck a girl and pay her money she is a prostitute! A girl I spent a ton of time in 2010 in Bogota with. I fucked her but never paid her a peso, BUT BUT I paid her phone bill and electricity and internet at times. Making her what? A prostitute! No need to be ashamed of that guys.

[GreenBud]

Quick question. I'll be in AC for a couple of days. If I were to fancy a three- or foursome in the style of Bangkok's Eden club (girl on girl activity), what pub / club would you recommend?

The Eden experience of CIM and lesbian rimming?

Niftys (Perimeter Road). The girls are mostly marginal and / or chubby, but if you want that experience...

They should still have that short time room upstairs (with the discount barfine).

[NapaSlapper]

College girls having sex with older men is not stories. They really do happen. I have sponsored few girls through college. They all started out as dating site contacts, sex and if I liked support their education.

Girls from rich families do not do it. But vast majority of college students in Philippines are poor. Many are supported by aunts and uncles but sometimes they cannot because of one reason or another. Almost all girls know education is the path to make their life better. Many drop out for one reason or another usually it is because of lack of money. They would love to have a sponsor. So what if they have to provide sexual favors for men old enough to be their fathers or grandfathers? In Asian and Latino culture girls like older men anyway.

If you chat with dating site girls many will say they attended college but had to drop out. What you see in Angeles are girls who have no intention to educate themselves and single mothers forced to earn to support family.

Even in advanced countries college girls earn money by stripping, escorting etc. For the right amount I am sure they provide everything.

Exactly, ex dating site girls, strippers, escorts might.

A good girl from a high so family has zero interest in old guys as sponsors because she is already sponsored by wealthy parents and these are the girls we are talking about.

Girls from dubious backgrounds who want to find an old guy to sponsor her studies in exchange for some pussy is in fact a prostitute, same same as any bargirl, freelancer selling her pussy for money.

Lets not confuse good girls from good rich families with prostitutes, a world of difference IMHO.