Angeles City

[Amavida]

No, not really, just a couple of girls to spend the afternoon away with. As I'm making this detour to AC, let's go a bit out of the ordinary. Can splurge some dosh on the right girls (I live in Thailand, so I'm looking at this as a treat).

I was last in AC quite a few years ago, had a lovely experience in one of the bars along the perimeter road (bugger if I remember the name). Went there on a Saturday afternoon, picked up 2 very chatty girls, had a good session, sent them off with a 500 P tip after a couple of hours. Then went there again in the evening and scored one of the waitresses for the night.

Thanks again for your reply.

I got you. Nice memories like this stay with us all. I reckon hit some of the smaller bars like Gecko's in the afternoon or very early evening. Have usually had great results that way (even door girls). The later the evening the less success.

Cheers.

AV.

[Golfinho]

It's exactly the same as the difference between working-class women and upper-class women in your own home country. They have an air of privilege that poor women don't have. These women are polished. A person can read about such things, but it's from repeated life experience that they acquire knowledge and comfort. Some things can be faked, but not everything?

And of course these women know the difference between an upper class man and some contract IT worker of your home country. For all those guys thinking that sitting on a plane for a dozen hours or more miraculously transforms them into an interesting person: some things can be faked, but not everything.

[Noruego]

Hi guys,

I was visiting the Philippines (Subic & Olongapo) last year due to work. I am kind of old school guy so believe it or not I was with the first girl I meet the whole stay.

Yes there was plenty of times I saw a lot of nicer girls and was thinking about dumping her, but she was really GF, she went with for dinner every night, shopping, Gocart, waterworld bla. Bla.

I meet her the first night in a bar so I had to pay barfine 1500 P and I gave here 500 P tip cause she stayed until the next morning, this went on for a few nights, but then I found out that I just BF here for LT. So paid the bar 1500 P for a week and I paid the girl 1000 P for each night, and then she stayed with me the hole they & night. Some of you guys must think I am stupid, with all those girls, but I don't regret it, she was really worth it.

So too the point. Is there a chance to find a girl bar-girl in AC who will do the same, or are they just looking for LD & ST. And will it possible for the same amount of Pesos, course I think it was a pretty good deal.

I am going to AC in the end of this month so I am hoping to have the same experience.

BTW, I know my language skills is not the best, sorry for that.

[Peraxx]

Quick question : were you envisaging an orgy style experience? In which case a 'private party' can be easily arranged with some of the bigger new hotels/clubs for a fee.. ahem.
AV.

No, not really, just a couple of girls to spend the afternoon away with. As I'm making this detour to AC, let's go a bit out of the ordinary. Can splurge some dosh on the right girls (I live in Thailand, so I'm looking at this as a treat).

I was last in AC quite a few years ago, had a lovely experience in one of the bars along the perimeter road (bugger if I remember the name). Went there on a Saturday afternoon, picked up 2 very chatty girls, had a good session, sent them off with a 500 P tip after a couple of hours. Then went there again in the evening and scored one of the waitresses for the night.

Thanks again for your reply.

[Amjeck]

Please "big spenders" stop ruining the P4P markets all over the world. Do a little research and don't be a foolish jerk and overpay!

Master Monger. Disgusted and Distraught (First China, then Thailand, and now The Philippines. RIP).

It's only going to get worse. Hang in there.

[Hutsori]

But if you necessarily avoid their social circles, how can you confirm that a particular woman is, in fact, upper middle-class, other than from what she chooses to tell you or show you? Since Pinays are not particularly good at keeping secrets, isn't there some risk that this affair she is having with a contraband Brit burns a hole in her tongue until she spits it out to some girlfriend?

It's exactly the same as the difference between working-class women and upper-class women in your own home country.

There are a lot things that may be evaluated. The sum is greater than the parts. The behavior. Their education; talk to a woman who was educated at private schools and was graduated from DLSU, then contrast her with a girl who completed high school, or is a school leaver. Their careers. You can tell BS pretty quickly when a person has a made up job. Talk to them about what their fathers do. They have a knowledge of food and dining - observe their table manners. They often are well traveled; it's tough for a poor Pinay to get a visa. Car ownership. Living in a Makati or BGC residence. They have an air of privilege that poor women don't have. These women are polished. A person can read about such things, but it's from repeated life experience that they acquire knowledge and comfort. Some things can be faked, but not everything.

I have no idea about the conversations they have with her friends. Maybe some do confide with those they trust. What they've told me is I'm safer than a Filipino guy because who am I going to tell?

[BrainDrain]

Quick question. I'll be in AC for a couple of days. If I were to fancy a three- or foursome in the style of Bangkok's Eden club (girl on girl activity), what pub / club would you recommend?

I promise I'll post a report if things play out right.

One MO is to check out the dancers on the floor and look for the girls whom are playful together. Is it an act? Probably.

Interview one of them over a drink and let the party begin. Be sure to specify the one-on-one girl action. Nothing worse that on the bed while the alternate one is in the corner of the room on her phone.

Back at the room, a few drinks will help things along too.

BD.

[Amavida]

A good idea. Why not start the thread? I have a friend whose alternative approach may also appeal to some, though his approach requires fairly frequent visits. He's big on threesomes, so much of the time, he will ask a girl with whom he's been before to bring a friend whose picture he has vetted. Once he's met the friend, he gets her number, invites her back but requests that she too bring a friend. He's been at this for a few years and he's now got so many names on his growing list that his greatest difficulty is deciding which girls he wants to see. By this time, all girls on the list are students who don't mind picking up extra money.

GE.

Students. Gold mine for those visiting a couple of times a year or more (or living here). Have'nt ruined their bodies with jolli-bee (yet), sexually adventurous, understand hygiene & dress better than squatter girls, have a constant need for money to fund shoes / dresses / nail polish / cell phones & of course education costs, know lots of other like minded girls in the same position. Malaysia has a thriving student scene. But I digress.

AV.

[Amavida]

Quick question. I'll be in AC for a couple of days. If I were to fancy a three- or foursome in the style of Bangkok's Eden club (girl on girl activity), what pub / club would you recommend?

I promise I'll post a report if things play out right.

These things can be arranged ad hoc but you're on a short time schedule right? If you have any experience of this you know that money talks right? Pina's tend to be shy of lezzy stuff but can be found.
The biggest clubs are more difficult to get this but it varies depending if its rainy season (less customers) or how recently the last raid occurred (no prostitution here, no sir!) Medium or smaller clubs can be better in my past experience. Smooge up to the mamasan (drinks, bullshit etc) and let her know what you need. Agree on a price. She will arrange home delivery or you can make a big splash with a giant limo out front to pick up your new best friends. I'd be eye balling & interviewing the girls myself to make sure they know what's expected & you know what you're buying. Bring plenty of money. 10 years ago you could pick up a tag team in the disco's or just ask a bar girl to 'bring a friend' but its much more commercial now. 10 years ago fresh off the farm girls would routinely bareback but its latex all the way these days. Have a lot of fun you deviate! I certainly do.

Quick question : were you envisaging an orgy style experience? In which case a 'private party' can be easily arranged with some of the bigger new hotels/clubs for a fee.. ahem.

AV.

[Peraxx]

Quick question. I'll be in AC for a couple of days. If I were to fancy a three- or foursome in the style of Bangkok's Eden club (girl on girl activity), what pub / club would you recommend?

I promise I'll post a report if things play out right.

[GoodEnough]

Yes I understand, you're correct GE. I'm trying to stir up a new thread over in the dating sites section to update new folks on the best sites for pre contact these days. I have a lot of very fond memories of lovely girls from CB (Cherry Blossoms). Evey now and then an FAQ is needed to be posted to get new people up to speed.

A good idea. Why not start the thread? I have a friend whose alternative approach may also appeal to some, though his approach requires fairly frequent visits. He's big on threesomes, so much of the time, he will ask a girl with whom he's been before to bring a friend whose picture he has vetted. Once he's met the friend, he gets her number, invites her back but requests that she too bring a friend. He's been at this for a few years and he's now got so many names on his growing list that his greatest difficulty is deciding which girls he wants to see. By this time, all girls on the list are students who don't mind picking up extra money.

GE.

[Dg8787]

Hey guys,

I said buying drinks is a huge waste of time, I don't really care about the $7 a drink. Although $7 a drink and $70 a barfine in a country with an average monthly income of "$100" is bonkers! Do that same math in China and a girl will cost you $500. In America it would cost about $2,500. Do you see how silly these prices are in comparison to the location? It is value not price that is the real problem.

When the higher price is paid service will go down too because they only need 3 customers a month to live a normal life. The biggest problem for me when I get bad service is not the service. I can make her assume the dog style position and get my rocks off on any lazy or loose pussy. The problem is when the girl doesn't want to stay, or wants to rush, or sucks her teeth my ego gets beat up and no matter what happens next I feel bad even if I cum.

Some guys said higher price will improve quality. I say BS! Quality has went down dramatically in the Philippines, the families now use the ugly daughters to fleece dumb foreigners for their money and use the beautiful daughters for marrying higher class Filipino guys.

I doubt I will ever come back to AC. It is just not worth it anymore. I will leave all the broken and ugly ones so all of you can have them.

The last Scorebirds bikini contest only had 3 hot girls out of 20, number 2, number 10, and number 16. I already slept with all three on my last trip 4 months ago. Time to move on.

Please "big spenders" stop ruining the P4P markets all over the world. Do a little research and don't be a foolish jerk and overpay!

Master Monger. Disgusted and Distraught (First China, then Thailand, and now The Philippines. RIP).

I like most do not really care about your rants or views. I am sure most do not care about my views either, therefore I will keep it short.

[Amavida]

Kings Landing reopened last week as Again Lancelot. It's either Korean owned or new Korean partner. Somehow, it looks smaller inside. The center stage and seating as well as the seating on the right wall, (as you enter,) are gone. The stage is now up against that right wall. In the center are small individual couches and ottomans. There is NOT enough seating. Worse yet, the music is BOOMING! Yeah, it's a Korean Bar now. We were in and out. I'm not sure how this can succeed.

It has changed format to cater to ROK customers. Big spenders on food / alcohol / cigarettes / ping pong balls etc in bar. From the girls point of view this is A Good Thing (TM). Plenty of other bars to suit different tastes.

AV.

[Amavida]

Right you are AV. With no disrespect intended, I assume that most of the guys visiting here are 2-3 week warriors who just want to get laid as much as possible. Given that this objective is most easily achieved by visiting well known P4 P hangouts or utilizing the services of women advertising on social media, most visitors lack the opportunity to access the "non-monger" circles of Filipino society, let alone the more exclusive circles thereof. Nothing wrong with this, but I'm pretty sure that most visitors have neither the time nor the inclination to pursue a different sort of woman.

GE.

Yes I understand, you're correct GE. I'm trying to stir up a new thread over in the dating sites section to update new folks on the best sites for pre contact these days. I have a lot of very fond memories of lovely girls from CB (Cherry Blossoms). Evey now and then an FAQ is needed to be posted to get new people up to speed.

[Amavida]

You can't stop this, for several reasons:

1. Most mongers just don't read boards like this one.

2. Most don't care or even understand if they are spoiling the market. They apply this principle (and there's nothing wrong with this principle): "The pussy here costs 1/4 what I usually pay in my country. OMG what a great value!" Not really, that is self-gratifying psychology of the uninformed; if the girl you paid 1/4 of your country's normal cost last night, would have gladly gone for 1/10 your normal cost, then you just overpaid her by a factor of 2. 5. This happens all the time, with many different products. How many times have I overpaid for other products in phils? Many. We overpay for the sake of convenience or to protect our ego. Ever see a guy get fleeced at a car dealership, and he's happy as hell, thinking he got a good deal (either uninformed about current car prices, or for convenience)? Or alternately, he just can't admit he got fleeced?

There are too many weekend warriors who drink and just want to get laid by a hottie *right now*. He doesn't care if he's overpaying. You might do the same thing for a stick of gum. Hence, the price of the girls increases disproportionally to the price of a McDo hamburger over time.

Indeed Westy, its the same all over the world with commercial sex. You appraise yourself of the going rates & you decide to partake or you do not. Simple. Hang wringing & crying into ones beer about whether somebody else paid / more less is pointless. We often hear about the {Insert Asian nationality of the week} driving up the prices but rarely do we hear about all the young gwapo fit as boxer AFP guys that the girls are thrilled to be in bed with or the lezzy girlfriends they have who get it walang bayad. No point wasting our lives worrying right? Meanwhile life outside the bars is very fine indeed.

AV.