Angeles City

[Manny51]

I'm making my first trip ever to the Philippines next week (due to outside pressure I scraped my trip to Jakarta) and decided on Angeles City (over Manila) just due to the proximity of everything and partially because it's cheaper. But having read through 100 pages of this thread there are actually very few "trip reports". Most are debates on various subjects and confirmations that AC is very, very far from it's peak due to the raids from yrs ago and perhaps also due to the mongering 'market conditions'.

It makes me wonder if I should just switch to Manilia. ?

The one question I had was regarding walking around at night outside of Fields / walking street. I'm staying at the Central Park Tower Resort which appears to be very close to fields ave. Since it's so close do you think it would be a problem to walk with a girl at night to the hotel? Or do I need to take a trike?

(on a side note, as someone who likes to RTFF I would agree that more TRIP reports is always a good thing as every part of life is YMMV. The only way to get an broad idea of what can happen in a given city with WGs / review of a certain hotel / restaurant is to have more reports and more details. Not everyone is a seasoned veteran with 20-30 yrs under their belt and living in SE Asia for weeks and months at a time. Also as we have seen with various cities- things change. What was true in 2015 might be different now and trip reports can give people an idea of what can be "expected" but obviously you have to temper your expectations.).

I was in the same situation, researching my own trip about 3 months ago. I had the same concerns, but in the end, chose differently then you. I decided to skip AC.

The reason? Threefold. First, there were too many people complaining about getting rejected by girls. Secondly, I read some reports about the lower state of hygene and overall presentation of the girls. Including several people mentioning head lice. They also uniformly agreed that the girls in Manila were just better looking. Thirdly, short on time. AC was too far. I wanted to spend some time seeing other areas of Manila and the PI. It seemed there were more things to do in Manila in the daytime.

How do I feel now that I am back? Overall pretty glad, though I do have this "itch" that I never saw AC. That being said, even though prices are lower in AC, I thought the attractiveness of the girls in Manila were just average overall. Definitely pretty girls here and there, but average overall. I wouldn't want to go a notch lower.

[WSJ3]

Its a part of the GFE.

Usually the ones that you can get from High Society are all with the hand holding and GFE.

Doesn't make him soft. He wanted what he paid for. It's his vacation and his money.

I personally prefer Blow Row find them fuck them forget them.

[Streetlooker]

What is up with mongers wanting to walk down the street holding hands with their hookers? I was sitting at Kokomo's and watched a punter reach for his girl's hand. The girl clearly showed that she did not want to hold hands with him. However he literally forced this girl to hold his hand. Some of these cats are funny. Love and affection.

Its a part of the GFE.

[Streetlooker]

Many thanks for the reply! I'm keeping my expectations pretty "even". Have never been in AC during "the peak" I won't know what I've been missing!

Some would say that Angeles City's peak was Pre Mt Pinatubo. Having been there then (1985-1990) I would have to agree. Totally nude dancing, sex shows. BJs right at your table. NO cell phones or computers. Total unfettered drunken debauchery. I am so thankful I have those memories. But its sad they can't be duplicated today.

[Mr Enternational]

What is up with mongers wanting to walk down the street holding hands with their hookers? I was sitting at Kokomo's and watched a punter reach for his girl's hand. The girl clearly showed that she did not want to hold hands with him. However he literally forced this girl to hold his hand. Some of these cats are funny. Love and affection.

[Mr Enternational]

The only way to get an broad idea of what can happen in a given city with WGs / review of a certain hotel / restaurant is to have more reports and more details. Not everyone is a seasoned veteran with 20-30 yrs under their belt and living in SE Asia for weeks and months at a time.

The thing with AC is that it only has about 2 blocks of monger use. So sure it is a city, but you will probably see only 2 blocks of it. And everyone walks everywhere. I usually stay at Central Park. It is only 1 block from Fields. Everything will come into view for you once you arrive. It is hard to get the total picture by only reading reports and looking at maps.

Many thanks for the reply! I'm keeping my expectations pretty "even". Have never been in AC during "the peak" I won't know what I've been missing!

That is a great attitude to have!

[Surfer500]

Many thanks for the reply! I'm keeping my expectations pretty "even". Have never been in AC during "the peak" I won't know what I've been missing!

You might want to try Subic as well, a totally different place than AC and more economical than AC. If your not a beach person though you probably won't like it much.

[Axiata]

I agree with what has been said, you have to come try it out to see if you like it. Don't let other's opinions affect yours, but keep them in mind though. I avoided coming into this thread prior to my trip so my opinions and expectations don't get swayed. It's not my cup of tea, I like Manila a lot more, but to each their own. I still had fun and got my dick soaking wet and that's all that counts

Could not agree more. Having traveled throughout SE Asia I never had AC on my radar. Now after two trips I am hooked. Do not know about the peak but if you are looking for an easy place to get around with day and night action, then AC is a must. It may not be the biggest, cleanest or have the best looking girls, but it has a lot of girls and lots of bars. It is also cheaper than a lot of other places. Try it and see if you like it. I know that I do! The girls are fun and finding the gem is part of the adventure!

[ThomKatt]

Many thanks for the reply! I'm keeping my expectations pretty "even". Have never been in AC during "the peak" I won't know what I've been missing!

I agree with what has been said, you have to come try it out to see if you like it. Don't let other's opinions affect yours, but keep them in mind though. I avoided coming into this thread prior to my trip so my opinions and expectations don't get swayed. It's not my cup of tea, I like Manila a lot more, but to each their own. I still had fun and got my dick soaking wet and that's all that counts

[WrinkleFree]

Many thanks for the reply! I'm keeping my expectations pretty "even". Have never been in AC during "the peak" I won't know what I've been missing!

[Mogwai]

I'm making my first trip ever to the Philippines next week (due to outside pressure I scraped my trip to Jakarta) and decided on Angeles City (over Manila) just due to the proximity of everything and partially because it's cheaper. But having read through 100 pages of this thread there are actually very few "trip reports". Most are debates on various subjects and confirmations that AC is very, very far from it's peak due to the raids from yrs ago and perhaps also due to the mongering 'market conditions'.

It makes me wonder if I should just switch to Manilia. ?

The one question I had was regarding walking around at night outside of Fields / walking street. I'm staying at the Central Park Tower Resort which appears to be very close to fields ave. Since it's so close do you think it would be a problem to walk with a girl at night to the hotel? Or do I need to take a trike?

If I were you I would still go to AC. The proximity of everything is a big advantage over Manila, most certainly when it's your first time around. It's true that AC is far from it's peak but 'very, very far' is an exaggaration IMO. You can still have a good time there but it just might take a little longer to find girls to your liking. And beside that: if you don't go there you 'll never know if AC is your cup of tea or not.

Central Park is indeed very close to fields. It's a 2 minute walk to Kokomo's restaurant which is roughly in the middle of fields. It's no problem at all to walk with a girl to this hotel, it might even be safer than taking a trike LOL!

[WrinkleFree]

I'm making my first trip ever to the Philippines next week (due to outside pressure I scraped my trip to Jakarta) and decided on Angeles City (over Manila) just due to the proximity of everything and partially because it's cheaper. But having read through 100 pages of this thread there are actually very few "trip reports". Most are debates on various subjects and confirmations that AC is very, very far from it's peak due to the raids from yrs ago and perhaps also due to the mongering 'market conditions'.

It makes me wonder if I should just switch to Manilia. ?

The one question I had was regarding walking around at night outside of Fields / walking street. I'm staying at the Central Park Tower Resort which appears to be very close to fields ave. Since it's so close do you think it would be a problem to walk with a girl at night to the hotel? Or do I need to take a trike?

(on a side note, as someone who likes to RTFF I would agree that more TRIP reports is always a good thing as every part of life is YMMV. The only way to get an broad idea of what can happen in a given city with WGs / review of a certain hotel / restaurant is to have more reports and more details. Not everyone is a seasoned veteran with 20-30 yrs under their belt and living in SE Asia for weeks and months at a time. Also as we have seen with various cities- things change. What was true in 2015 might be different now and trip reports can give people an idea of what can be "expected" but obviously you have to temper your expectations.).

[NapaSlapper]

I agree with you when you said that we are not MD's. However the cost of HIV testing is much less than it was say 15 years ago. You can purchase an over the counter kit in Thailand for probably under $5 US. Perhaps they are now being sold in the PI as well. Some kits use saliva so there is no need for blood. Other STD's can be tested by using vaginal swabs or by testing any exudate from the external urethral meatus, male or female. But what about that nasty chancre sore on the roof of the mouth? Are they testing for herpes and related dermatologic STD's? Are you kidding? But watch out for DFK unless you can fit your tongue in a condom and kiss with that. Oh, BTW, I would not put much stock in what you hear from these girls; they are not MD's either.

I had previously bought a thai aids kit it was about $50 us, the problem with these is their accuracy, It clearly states on the packaging that if a positive reading is given then go for a blood test to make sure, so by the manufacturers own admission their kit is not as accurate as a blood test.

Yes new type oral tests are also available in some countries but again not as reliable as blood testing.

http://www.aidsmap.com/Rapid-HIV-tes.../page/2228132/

But at the end of the day it does not come down to what is available it comes down to no girls in angeles are tested by their bars for anything which is crazy considering that most angeles bargirls think its normal to have multiple sex partners from all around the world bareback.

I think that if the bar owners were actually concerned for their girls health then they should at least educate the girls on the dangers of unprotected sex, I won't hold my breath LOL.

[Robbaf]

Good read on Harry the horse news letter this month, Harry and new partner/writer are angeles buisness owners and are 100% pro everything angeles normally.

In their second column they clearly state that all angeles bar owners are having a horrid time trying to secure good looking girls to work in the bars.

Now if these guys are saying this then the reality is probably a 1000% times worse.

I used to read Harry the Horse every month, but now no longer reading since Harry stopped his newsletter. Now it is concluded between ads and rambling.

Robb.

[GoodEnough]

I have been reading your posts here and on another "worldly" forum for many years. I can recall when you were in Vietnam. I imagined you to be large and formidable. You command a lot of respect-indeed lionized-on the forums and although that is not entirely your doing, it is my nature to react against anyone who is the object of such obsequiousness. That is an apology for any of my posts which may have challenged your points of view. You wrote not so long ago that you were in a "satisfying and fulfilling relationship. " Now it sounds like you are an active monger. Oui ou non? I, like you, like to get the hell out of the bar as quickly as I can. But I fear that makes me seem too eager to get laid and scares away some otherwise likely prospects. Oh, BTW, you were in Vietnam and Mindanao for business. It is none of my beeswax, but are you a mining engineer? Oui ou non? That would be my guess. Me? I am a wastrel for a living.

Didn't want to bore a lot of the guys here by responding with some personal details, so sent you a PM answering some of your questions. You surely owe me no apologies for anything written in response to anything I've posted. I've always figured that any of our posts are fair game for those who disagree.

I didn't realize that I was the object of any obsequiousness, and if I was, it's surely undeserved. My points of view are merely personal opinions and no more worthy of special treatment than the posts of anyone else.

I think that because I've lived for so long in so many third world countries the endless pursuit of the ladies ceased to fascinate me long ago. It really doesn't take long for the ready availability of girls young enough to be my daughter, and now perhaps granddaughter to lose its novelty which is, I suppose, why I don't write about it much. For me, the equation is quite simple: this is a poor country with a lousy educational system that creates few opportunities for its young people. Conversely the pressure on young women to provide sustenance for their families is relentless. Ergo, many of those from poor families do what they do because it's the only way they can provide for their families given that the government does nothing to ameliorate their poverty. For the most part, guys who delude themselves into thinking otherwise--that is, believing that these young women love them because of their charm or looks or personalities-- need to go check the mirrors in their hotel rooms.

GE.