Angeles City

[Chocha Monger]

It does not have to be a stunner. I have talked to many normal chicks online who have said they do not ask for money but have had guys virtually force it on them. And like you said, these guys don't even have any intention of going there. I hope that I am never that lonely.

I agree, the girl does not even have to be a stunner. Also, I have seen guys forcing their sponsorship on average domestic helper types. Some of these guys are working jobs that pay over 100 K USD and hold senior positions in government and private sector jobs. Perhaps, they have nothing better to do with their money and feel so grateful for some female conversation that they feel obligated to pay for it. In the US, the most popular religion among men is worshipping women. The average man over 40 yrs of age has zero chance of attracting attention from women under 30 yrs old unless he is offering a substantial sum of money. These men are socially isolated and marginalized to the point of suffering depression. One of the recurring themes cited by young white male mass shooters is their feeling of desperation and anger at not being able to get any pussy in America. So, maybe if the younger guys had money they would be doing virtual girlfriend sponsorships too.

All monger destinations that get a large influx of men from feminist Western countries eventually experience a change in the attitudes of the local hookers for the worse. This is because these men bring the religion of female worship with them. They start marrying the local prostitutes and buying them houses. Soon the word gets around that these guys like to kiss ass and are pussy-whipped. Therefore, there is no need to be nice to them as they are quite used to being rejected at home. The bar girls enjoy this newly discovered power over men and soon start treating customers accordingly. They pick and choose among the suitors trying to court them.

Western men are well-known in the Philippines for marrying women with baggage. Filipinos use these women for money and sex only. Hence, foreigners are really the ones to blame when the women in AC start acting like the ones the guys ran away from at home. For Filipino attitudes to single mommies and high mileage women read this article. http://definitelyfilipino.com/blog/2...the-spotlight/.

[Key Master]

All this negative talk has me little concerned, as I'm to make my first visit there this month. I couldn't careless about whether.

The town crowding with other dudes, but the reason you claim for there absents troublesome I mean no intention of barfining brings in the question of why are they even there. What I hope.

And suspected is that of the most of the complaints are from guys that have been going for 15 years when everything was fresh new and extra cheap. Also it may not be as good as you remember but.

But for a first time visitor it's still a good time. I say this from my experience as I'm a big DR guy and people always complain but when I see newbies in town there always having a great time.

Talking to woman ID seen for years and never said so much as Hello, to.

This is my opinion, not trying to start a war. I'm sure it's going to anger some people.

It used to be awhile back before phones and internet were wide spread that you could basically go into these clubs and take out pretty much anyone you wanted by just making the offer. It didn't matter how you looked, smelled or how old you were. I think those times have changed. There are a lot of people who don't think none of this matters. At the current time, I think it does come into play significantly more so than say 10 years ago.

I've been fortunate enough to stay somewhat fit and still get away as looking kind of young. I don't dress to impress but my clothes are clean and they generally look good together. I can still pull some of the more obvious cuter ones out of the bars for now. I have witnessed these women tell guys lies whether it's menstruation or other on why they can't go with certain people then turn around and go with me or others.

I also think if you can make them genuinely laugh and have a good time it helps.

No matter what your looks, clothes or age and stuff, you will be able to find someone to go with you who will be pretty ok looking. If you are looking to land the hottest women in the clubs then it may not happen depending.

Just saying, you can find action. You may not always get your preferred choices though. I get shot down on occasion too. I just know I've followed after some guys that have bought multiple drinks for someone and leaves empty handed and then I buy a drink and we are off. Many have told me they didn't want to go with the other guy for various reasons. I'm sure some of you will say they are lying, and whatever. Been seeing this happening a lot more often now and have put my conclusions together based on my experiences. In AC, the select number of real cuties, can be real choosy.

If you want some real hotties who probably don't care about all those things then somewhere like Thailand gogo's are probably a much better bet in my opinion. The tradeoff is the different experiences. I think the Thai women on average are physically hotter.

[GoodEnough]

It is "conventional" for filipinas to express "shame" and dismay to all foreigners that "I cannot speak good English". It's almost to be expected from them as a form of advance defence mechanism.

There is also a common understanding that Aussies are especially hard to understand because they "talk fast" and "have slang", even if you talk slowly and use clear expressions.

This has become folklore now. You will hear girls talk about how speaking English with foreigners causes nosebleed, another quaint expression used often.

My rule is to speak slowly and clearly. There is usually someone close by who can translate for you.

The other approach that's sometimes effective is to create simple, thoroughly ungrammatical sentences that either do not include verbs or keep all verbs in the present tense, usually in first person singular. Tagalog and at least most of the dialects don't incorporate conjugation and the use of tense is limited if it's used at all. Thus, "we go movie tomorrow?" is more likely to be understood than the more complex"Would you like to go to the movies tomorrow?" And "you work here long time?" is likely to be more comprehensible than "Have you worked here for a long time?

GE.

[Amjeck]

Most guys travel great distances at great expense to spend time with the type of girls they cannot attract back home, these type of girls can only be found in very small numbers in the top bars of fields avenue.

I know lots of mongers who are happy with low grade pussy, and I see loads of guys hand in hand with dogs in AC with a smile on their faces. Some guys have lower standards.

I'm with you though, the hot ones are on fields and they have more power now then ever before.

[Red Kilt]

As said, you probably won't be discussing geopolitical issues, but they understand pretty well. I suspect understanding THEM is a bit of an acquired skill: I had some real problems due to thick accents. I did have one girl who could barely understand me but had a wing-woman do some translation. Rather odd as even the translator said that I my English was very understandable, not highly accented.

It is "conventional" for filipinas to express "shame" and dismay to all foreigners that "I cannot speak good English". It's almost to be expected from them as a form of advance defence mechanism.

There is also a common understanding that Aussies are especially hard to understand because they "talk fast" and "have slang", even if you talk slowly and use clear expressions.

This has become folklore now. You will hear girls talk about how speaking English with foreigners causes nosebleed, another quaint expression used often.

My rule is to speak slowly and clearly. There is usually someone close by who can translate for you.

[Dg8787]

Perimeter bars have many girls as beautiful as fields bars. They are not all fat and ugly. Most girls are new to the scene. Sometimes when I hear about bad performers, like horses I wonder if it wasn't because of the jockey?

Money changers like Norma's are just as safe as banks. You are not going to get robbed at either location. Just go at a decent time and always double back to see if someone is following you whether it is at a money changer or bank. At SM mall go up the escalator and stop at the top to see if someone is following or watching you and then go back down the escalator. Just like anywhere else use some common sense and watch your back.

Most girls do speak good English. Writing it maybe a different story. What is confusing to them is which English and accent are you talking to them with? Meaning are you American? Texan? Australian? British? Indian? Korean speaking English? And with slang words? If you expect to discuss your countries history or politics then it is not going to happen. Then again it would probably bore me too.

[Oosik]

Do the girls usually speak some English?

As said, you probably won't be discussing geopolitical issues, but they understand pretty well. I suspect understanding THEM is a bit of an acquired skill: I had some real problems due to thick accents. I did have one girl who could barely understand me but had a wing-woman do some translation. Rather odd as even the translator said that I my English was very understandable, not highly accented.

I found the understand versus speak thing problematic as I would revert to my usual highly simplified, gesture-intensive talk when they could understand me fine but I struggled when they talked.

[Sxxxx]

Doing my *best* for the Malaysian fellas haha.

For the Malaysian fella's and all the other guys around the world ensconced in Mumma's cellar.

[Chris Long]

All this negative talk has me little concerned, as I'm to make my first visit there this month. I couldn't careless about whether.

The town crowding with other dudes, but the reason you claim for there absents troublesome I mean no intention of barfining brings in the question of why are they even there. What I hope.

And suspected is that of the most of the complaints are from guys that have been going for 15 years when everything was fresh new and extra cheap. Also it may not be as good as you remember but.

But for a first time visitor it's still a good time. I say this from my experience as I'm a big DR guy and people always complain but when I see newbies in town there always having a great time.

Talking to woman ID seen for years and never said so much as Hello, to.

Aaahhh the DR. I remember my first time to Sosua I stayed at the New Garden hotel arrived midweek around 1: pm and wanted to see the strip for the first time. Three times that day I walked out of the New Garden heading for the strip and three times I was stopped by a hot little Dominicana before I ever reached the strip and was convinced by her to take her back to my room. Finally had to just keep my head down and ignore all the come ONS so I could finally make it to the strip.

In Angles the distance from the Wild Orchid to walking street is about the same from New Garden to the strip. You could walk up and down from Wild Orchid to walking street twenty four hours a day seven days a week and get nothing but ignored dirty looks and NO from the girls.

Aaahhh Sosua In Classicos, Rumba or the old the Latinos I feel like Brad Pitt I'm groped, felt up, and come on to by the girls and within five minutes or less I can take who ever I want back to my room.

In Rejection City / Angles City gogo bar you will be ignored looked at like you are Frankenstein's Monster and told by at least half or more of the girls she is on Mens and can't bar fine. Of course that will be after you have bought her a drink or two.

I hope you are not thin skinned Worldtraveler because you will find Rejection City / Angels City is nothing like Sosua.

Chris

[NapaSlapper]

Hi all,

I read several dozen pages of this forum, and used search. Indy's 6 day report was very helpful. But still a few remaining questions for a 1st time visitor to AC and PI:

1. Is it better to exchange cash via a regular bank or a money exchanger like Norma's?

2. Do the girls usually speak some English? Thing is if we do LT, I'd imagine it'd be quite boring between the sessions if she doesn't.

3. Is mid to end of Jan. A pretty good time to go? The climate seems to be very reasonable at this time.

TIA

Changing money on the street is very risky in a third world country, better to go to sm mall and change your money in one of the banks there, they are guarded by security with guns for your safety.

Girls speak fairly good English and can hold conversations, but remember most bargirls have had no schooling and have grown up in the outback so don't expect deep meaningful conversations.

Mid to late January is the best time to visit.

[WestCoast1]

Malaysian mongers will have to content themselves with jerking off to the photo gallery for some time to come

Doing my *best* for the Malaysian fellas haha.

[NapaSlapper]

There are other factors that may be causing low monger numbers in AC at this time besides the long term changes in attitudes and quality. The biggest one currently is the APEC Summit in Manila. The government has restricted air travel, shut down Manila for 4 days, and detained all vagrants in the city to keep them out of sight of foreign dignitaries.

Another factor working over a wider time frame is the currency markets. The Aussie dollar has taken a brutal drubbing from the peso, and is crying uncle. Aussie mongers on a pension are now more worried about trying to avoid making cat-food a dietary staple than traveling to AC for discretionary expenditures on pinay puss, booze, and counterfeit street Viagra.

The Malaysian ringgit has been shoved off a cliff by the peso. Malaysian mongers will have to content themselves with jerking off to the photo gallery for some time to come instead of visiting AC bars for the real thing. Except for a few currencies like the USA Dollar, Korean won, and British pound, most monger currencies are down against the peso including the Japanese yen, and even the Euro.

The high roller mongers are probably still rolling high in Makati, but AC's economy and low budget mongers are hurting real bad. While Americans are fairly well on the exchange rate, Thanksgiving and Christmas are around the corner and they're probably saving their money for the holidays at home after weathering a slow economic recovery. So, AC bars may not be seeing any crowds for a while.

You are correct in saying that most people the world over have less money available to themselves.

I also agree that most currencies have taken a fall and prices have risen.

But how do you explain that very near by mongering destinations are very busy with customers in high numbers even though they have political problems,terrorist threats,bombings themselves.

My view is that some destinations are doing it right therefore have high numbers of customers and some destinations are doing it wrong and not able to attract high number.

Mongers will be mongers, they will not stay at home regardless of summits/politics/terrorism, they will still travel but maybe for shorter periods than before and maybe be more careful of everyday expense but travel to the right destinations where they can get laid easily by attractive girls they will.

[Screaming Beaver]

As has been pointed out by so many, even the slightly attractive girls of fields are very choosy on who they barfine with that's if you can get the little want to be princess to barfne at all

I would still suggest you take a shower and brush your teeth before you hit the town. You may find the hots to be more receptive to you. The reason I say this is because this town attracts the blue collar value monger who doesn't think personal hygiene is really necessary since they are pulling out the little blue notes.

[NapaSlapper]

Its funny how the majority of guys on angeles boards report that its much much harder to find slim attractive girls that are willing to barfine and we have some that are claiming they have no problems at all.

Well I put this down to girl choice.

Yes if one goes to the perimeter road bars and does not mind mainly very plain, older mummys, fat girls, then getting laid is relatively straight forward.

Here's the BUT.

Most guys travel great distances at great expense to spend time with the type of girls they cannot attract back home, these type of girls can only be found in very small numbers in the top bars of fields avenue.

As has been pointed out by so many, even the slightly attractive girls of fields are very choosy on who they barfine with that's if you can get the little want to be princess to barfne at all.

The reasons for this have been made clear by many in recent posts.

Sorry to be blunt, but that is the honest situation as I see it, lets hope things improve some time soon.

[Screaming Beaver]

All this negative talk has me little concerned, as I'm to make my first visit there this month.

If you can't get laid in this town then you have some serious physical, mental or hygienic issues.