Angeles City

[Dg8787]

Not even vitamin V can help limped Richards caused by rejection. I have not had any problems finding ST or LT girls in perimeter bars. I really don't go to the fields bars so I can't respond to them. Most girls will do ST as stated before. Most girls after ST will decide to go LT if you are clean and like able. After that most girls will refer their friends to you.

The girls do not have to go with you is right. Not even for a million pesos! The attitude of "I paid my money-I get to fuck you" is so endearing to the girls that I wonder why they don't go with you!

[Amjeck]

Among the local mongers I talk with we all call Angeles City Rejection City or just call it RC for short because about half or more of the girls you try to take are going to shoot you down and some are going to be quite rude and cold about it.

Still not yet a 100%. If guys continue to feed cash into the system without getting sexual favors in return, then 100% is certainly achievable. Never have girls in AC had it so easy. Before, in order to make about 700 p they'd have to do LT with a punter. Now they can just sit in the bar all night and make that easily from drinks and tips. Incentivizing non-sexual services in a hooker scene has always been a recipe for certain demise. AC used to be a hooker destination, now it's an entertainment destination.

There's still a bit of fun to be had. Enjoy it while it lasts!

[NapaSlapper]

All this negative talk has me little concerned, as I'm to make my first visit there this month. I couldn't careless about whether.

The town crowding with other dudes, but the reason you claim for there absents troublesome I mean no intention of barfining brings in the question of why are they even there. What I hope.

And suspected is that of the most of the complaints are from guys that have been going for 15 years when everything was fresh new and extra cheap. Also it may not be as good as you remember but.

But for a first time visitor it's still a good time. I say this from my experience as I'm a big DR guy and people always complain but when I see newbies in town there always having a great time.

Talking to woman ID seen for years and never said so much as Hello, to.

Read back a few pages and you will find all the answers to your questions, I and many have pointed out exactly what is happening in angeles city as of now.

It all depends on what you are looking for as to whether you will have a good time there.

[Chocha Monger]

There are other factors that may be causing low monger numbers in AC at this time besides the long term changes in attitudes and quality. The biggest one currently is the APEC Summit in Manila. The government has restricted air travel, shut down Manila for 4 days, and detained all vagrants in the city to keep them out of sight of foreign dignitaries.

Another factor working over a wider time frame is the currency markets. The Aussie dollar has taken a brutal drubbing from the peso, and is crying uncle. Aussie mongers on a pension are now more worried about trying to avoid making cat-food a dietary staple than traveling to AC for discretionary expenditures on pinay puss, booze, and counterfeit street Viagra.

The Malaysian ringgit has been shoved off a cliff by the peso. Malaysian mongers will have to content themselves with jerking off to the photo gallery for some time to come instead of visiting AC bars for the real thing. Except for a few currencies like the USA Dollar, Korean won, and British pound, most monger currencies are down against the peso including the Japanese yen, and even the Euro.

The high roller mongers are probably still rolling high in Makati, but AC's economy and low budget mongers are hurting real bad. While Americans are fairly well on the exchange rate, Thanksgiving and Christmas are around the corner and they're probably saving their money for the holidays at home after weathering a slow economic recovery. So, AC bars may not be seeing any crowds for a while.

[WorldTraveler3]

Tell me something I did not already know chocha monger.

All the reasons you quote above are the exact reasons high season is upon us and angeles city bars are dead of customers.

As they say, you make your bed, you lie in it.

People fly half way around the world at great expense to get laid not to sit amongst very ordinary looking, mostly chubby girls that have no intention of barfining,

Thank goodness there are many other destinations where girls know what they are employed to do.

People have obviously voted with their feet.

All this negative talk has me little concerned, as I'm to make my first visit there this month. I couldn't careless about whether.

The town crowding with other dudes, but the reason you claim for there absents troublesome I mean no intention of barfining brings in the question of why are they even there. What I hope.

And suspected is that of the most of the complaints are from guys that have been going for 15 years when everything was fresh new and extra cheap. Also it may not be as good as you remember but.

But for a first time visitor it's still a good time. I say this from my experience as I'm a big DR guy and people always complain but when I see newbies in town there always having a great time.

Talking to woman ID seen for years and never said so much as Hello, to.

[NapaSlapper]

Bar owners and mamasans are powerless when it comes to the girls' decision to accept bar fines or not. After the period of frequent raids and IJM infiltration of the bars, many establishments took a hands-off approach to management. The bar girls know that they do not have to go out with a customer if they do not want to for any reason. Implementing policies that penalize girls who do not bar fine could be interpreted as coercion, and the bar owner may as well drop his drawers, grab his heels and invite IJM to have a go at him sans lube. There is simply not any incentive for the bar owners and the mamasans to expose themselves to this sort of liability. Some mamasans are so skittish that they now refer all customer inquiries regarding possibility of bar fine and compensation to the particular girl in question stating that it is up to the girl. This means customer satisfaction, or dissatisfaction now rests solely in the hands of the girl.

The bar cannot refuse employment based on virginity because: It would be tantamount to an admission that fucking customers is part of the job requirements; It is difficult to determine this status for job applicants; It would be scandalous if this became public knowledge; It invites legal liabilities; and it may exclude more attractive girls.

Pretty slim shapely Filipinas 18-21 yrs old receive lots of interest from many suitors, especially if they are virgins. If she is a virgin at that age it means that she likely came from a relatively conservative family and she was closely watched. Her family may have rejected a number of local suitors who came looking to court her. These girls are not looking to give up their precious cherry for regular bar fine or interested in being rooted by all and sundry. Some of the hottest ones even refuse cherry bids as high as P100,000 because they are holding out for nothing less than a foreign husband. Some even want the foreign husband to be someone they can have real physical attraction and feelings for. They are contented with receiving salary and drink commissions while they work the internet and wait for their Prince Charming to ride in.

So, the bars are designed to help you get laid, but they are not designed to guarantee you get laid. If you're going after 18 and 19 yr olds with smooth fair skin, doe eyes, good teeth, tall, busty, small waist, wide hips, long legs, round butt, and sculpted abdomen be prepared for rejection. These girls are at peak demand, and can afford to pick and choose their sponsors. The veterans will tell them that much if they haven't figured it out from the attention they get on the street, in the bar, and on the dating and social networking sites. Technology has made it possible for a stunners to spend their time off chatting multiple lonely virtual boyfriends in Europe, North America, and Australia who willingly send them regular cash allowances via Western Union with no intention of ever actually visiting the Philippines. Their attitudes are just a reflection of these circumstances. Going bar fine with a stranger who is probably doped up on a Viagra-Redbull-Zinc cocktail and looking to pound their puss bareback from midnight to well after sunrise for P1,500 P2,000 just is not that appealing compared to the alternatives.

Tell me something I did not already know chocha monger.

All the reasons you quote above are the exact reasons high season is upon us and angeles city bars are dead of customers.

As they say, you make your bed, you lie in it.

People fly half way around the world at great expense to get laid not to sit amongst very ordinary looking, mostly chubby girls that have no intention of barfining,

Thank goodness there are many other destinations where girls know what they are employed to do.

People have obviously voted with their feet.

[Tasss]

Hi all,

I read several dozen pages of this forum, and used search. Indy's 6 day report was very helpful. But still a few remaining questions for a 1st time visitor to AC and PI:

1. Is it better to exchange cash via a regular bank or a money exchanger like Norma's?

2. Do the girls usually speak some English? Thing is if we do LT, I'd imagine it'd be quite boring between the sessions if she doesn't.

3. Is mid to end of Jan. A pretty good time to go? The climate seems to be very reasonable at this time.

TIA

[Socker]

There might be 5 stunners in the whole of AC, many cute 6's though.

[Mr Enternational]

Technology has made it possible for a stunners to spend their time off chatting multiple lonely virtual boyfriends in Europe, North America, and Australia who willingly send them regular cash allowances via Western Union with no intention of ever actually visiting the Philippines.

It does not have to be a stunner. I have talked to many normal chicks online who have said they do not ask for money but have had guys virtually force it on them. And like you said, these guys don't even have any intention of going there. I hope that I am never that lonely.

[Sxxxx]

........................bar owners and the mamasans .............. Some mamasans are so skittish that they now refer all customer inquiries regarding possibility of bar fine and compensation to the particular girl in question stating that it is up to the girl. This means customer satisfaction, or dissatisfaction now rests solely in the hands of the girl. ............................................

Well, that's good to know. Should result in less 'runners' and better attitudes from the customers. Too, don't you think.

Didn't know before they were forced to go with the guys.

Another ROD by Chocha.

[X Man]

Ding. I read this and it all makes a lot more sense. Thanks CM.

I usually SNIP, but this post is so good I won't. Only one quibble. When you write "Prince charming", you might have written "future ex-husband".

Bar owners and mamasans are powerless when it comes to the girls' decision to accept bar fines or not. After the period of frequent raids and IJM infiltration of the bars, many establishments took a hands-off approach to management. The bar girls know that they do not have to go out with a customer if they do not want to for any reason. Implementing policies that penalize girls who do not bar fine could be interpreted as coercion, and the bar owner may as well drop his drawers, grab his heels and invite IJM to have a go at him sans lube. There is simply not any incentive for the bar owners and the mamasans to expose themselves to this sort of liability. Some mamasans are so skittish that they now refer all customer inquiries regarding possibility of bar fine and compensation to the particular girl in question stating that it is up to the girl. This means customer satisfaction, or dissatisfaction now rests solely in the hands of the girl.

The bar cannot refuse employment based on virginity because: It would be tantamount to an admission that fucking customers is part of the job requirements; It is difficult to determine this status for job applicants; It would be scandalous if this became public knowledge; It invites legal liabilities; and it may exclude more attractive girls.

Pretty slim shapely Filipinas 18-21 yrs old receive lots of interest from many suitors, especially if they are virgins. If she is a virgin at that age it means that she likely came from a relatively conservative family and she was closely watched. Her family may have rejected a number of local suitors who came looking to court her. These girls are not looking to give up their precious cherry for regular bar fine or interested in being rooted by all and sundry. Some of the hottest ones even refuse cherry bids as high as P100,000 because they are holding out for nothing less than a foreign husband. Some even want the foreign husband to be someone they can have real physical attraction and feelings for. They are contented with receiving salary and drink commissions while they work the internet and wait for their Prince Charming to ride in.

So, the bars are designed to help you get laid, but they are not designed to guarantee you get laid. If you're going after 18 and 19 yr olds with smooth fair skin, doe eyes, good teeth, tall, busty, small waist, wide hips, long legs, round butt, and sculpted abdomen be prepared for rejection. These girls are at peak demand, and can afford to pick and choose their sponsors. The veterans will tell them that much if they haven't figured it out from the attention they get on the street, in the bar, and on the dating and social networking sites. Technology has made it possible for a stunners to spend their time off chatting multiple lonely virtual boyfriends in Europe, North America, and Australia who willingly send them regular cash allowances via Western Union with no intention of ever actually visiting the Philippines. Their attitudes are just a reflection of these circumstances. Going bar fine with a stranger who is probably doped up on a Viagra-Redbull-Zinc cocktail and looking to pound their puss bareback from midnight to well after sunrise for P1,500 P2,000 just is not that appealing compared to the alternatives.

[Lefeu]

(checks quickly) I'll see you in court! I don't have any spots! Well, not this time. Of course I've only been gone a couple of days!

Good report BTW, nicely written and entertaining (meant earlier report about your encounter with the painted ass and her friend).

[Oosik]

I have it on good authority that this is all that's left of Oosik after his return to the US.

(checks quickly) I'll see you in court! I don't have any spots! Well, not this time. Of course I've only been gone a couple of days!

[Randy Murican]

I have it on good authority that this is all that's left of Oosik after his return to the US.

[Betong]

Guys, I am sure there are still great girls in AC, but I noticed the deterioration in overall attitudes the last time I was in AC too.

My attitude toward this is real simple. Yes, it's harder to find good girls these days, it takes longer, and it costs more. But once you do find one, they're as good as ever. Pattaya remains my favorite place for wham-bam commercial sex, but when I want something a little longer-term and more GF-like, AC still beats anywhere else I know.