Macunaima in Brazil

[Macunaima]

I've not "finished" things here because I've spent the last couple weeks digging up info on these busts. Seems that initial rumors have been somewhat exagerated.

The busts occurred - get this - as part of a police strike. "Work according to the law" was the rule of the day, so they spent all week arresting people for annoying shit and namby-pamby morals charges that are still on the books but are never enforced. Busting two termas - Centaurus and Rio Antigo - was part of this, as was going after numbers runners, jay-walkers... the works.

So this bust wasn't part of a coordinated crusade. It DOES show, however, how relatively vulnerable the termas are these days. Cops feel they can do this because they feel the mass of the population is on their side re: stamping on the Gringo Threat to Our Women.

As of yet, I have not been able to confirm the rumor that African Americans were deported because of these raids. What I have heard is that a whole bunch of them got caught in the RA raid and they were deported on sexual tourism charges. I'm sure that if any white gringos were there, they'd've been deported too.

So my advice for the nonce remains the same: if you monger, carry ID. If the cops bust you, say nothing and call the Consulate for a lawyer.

Here're some numbers of lawyers who are vouched for by the U.S. and Brit consulates in Brazil. Print out this list before you go and carry the contact numbers for your city in your wallet:

http://www.embaixada-americana.org.b...u=58&submenu=8

[Macunaima]

Brazilian Police Seek to Curb Sex Tourism
By TALES AZZONI, Associated Press Writer

Sat Apr 1, 7:26 PM ET

Cracking down on visitors who come to Brazil for sex, police raided clubs known for using call girls and strippers, detaining 118 foreigners early Saturday to discourage what authorities called "sexual tourism."

The tourists — mostly from Portugal, Spain, Italy, France and Norway — were briefly held in the northeastern city of Natal for not carrying passports or international identification cards that Brazil requires of all foreigners, police said. They were fined $76 and released.

Luiz Pereira, a federal police officer, said the country hoped the operation "will help discourage tourists who think sexual tourism is easy in Brazil."

"We are showing that police are paying attention to this problem," he said.

More than 70 federal agents raided two nightclubs known for using strippers and call girls to attract tourists, Pereira said. Police detained 118 tourists in the raids in Natal, 1,520 miles northeast of Sao Paulo, he said.

Prostitution is legal in Brazil, but people who promote sex tourism can be charged.

Some of the detained had expired visas and were ordered to leave the country within eight days, police said.

Police have conducted similar operations in recent months in Natal. In one raid, six Italian men were arrested on charges of owning prostitution houses aimed at tourists.

[Lover Boy #2]

I hate to say "I told you so", folks, but I did indeed.

A big batch of arrests and deportations, once again, almost exclusively of African American men.

Word is out that Centaurus has been closed by the cops, too, but that's just a rumor at this stage.

Anyone who has any more or better info, please contact me.

Mac...why start this shit, then not finish it? You are an educated, well spoken serial antagonist.....with access to all news channels (broadcast, print, prostitue unions, etc.)......why not use ´´your´´ forum to channel some info to the boyz??

[Lover Boy #2]

I wouldn´t get paranoid about this until more info becomes available.

Mac, as you know everything, why not read some newspapers, listen to some radio/tv...and tell the public what is going on.

Right now....although prices are up and if you come here only for sex it might not be worth it......it seems like nothing has happened.

The rumor is that black people got targeted and deported. This really seems fucked up. Hip Hop or no Hop......black guys from America are usually real friendly at the clubs and I have never seen any causing any problems. The only fist fight I ever had here was with a local who punched a girl flat out in the face...for no apparent reason.....he didn´t even get arrested....only asked to leave the club....and I think I broke my wrist on his head.

Mac....where are you when you are needed?

[Perkele]

I called today to Rio and seems that something is going on.

Don't know about deportations, but somebody has started another crusade against sexual tourism.

I spoke with a girl who is working in one of the thermases as a receptionist and she was a bit worried about her job. They haven't been raided as yet but she said that she won't go to work for a while because of this.
Trust me it has to be serious if brasilian girl refuses to go to work.

So whom ever is concerned about his rep. etc I'd recommend to stay away for a while.

[Scotch]

Termas Busted?

I have a problem with Rio if they bust Termas and only arrest Blacks yankees. Now if they are trying to get higher payout so be it. I always assume that the termas pay off gov't or high ranking cops to aviod this BS. It seems more like they might be try to monopoly the termas to only the ones that pay off well. I will be Rio in 2 weeks and being a military Officer; I can not afford the deportating process. I would like to know if anyone know which termas have deep pockets to make the cops happy or I will go to DR. Rio is not worth going too for just help, cheap thermas and call girls.

[Voyajer1]

Are these arrest being conducted on people (African American) hanging out in big groups as in the "sex boat" trip last year? Are they just narrowing these arrest on these folk because they stand out like sore thumbs? I'm headed in that direction within the next 3 months and I definitely will stay out of their big termas until someone can tell us what the hell is up over there. I can hit all the small cheap ones and let you all know how it went. This sucks!

[Lover Boy #2]

Question.....you are saying they arrested everyone (or that many were present of all skin color) including folks with whiter skin....but only deported African Americans? If true this is almost out of 1700s African slave trade and US plantation life. Can´t a black man get a friggín break? Ordem e Progresso?

I hate to say "I told you so", folks, but I did indeed.

A big batch of arrests and deportations, once again, almost exclusively of African American men.

Word is out that Centaurus has been closed by the cops, too, but that's just a rumor at this stage.

Anyone who has any more or better info, please contact me.

[Macunaima]

I hate to say "I told you so", folks, but I did indeed.

A big batch of arrests and deportations, once again, almost exclusively of African American men.

Word is out that Centaurus has been closed by the cops, too, but that's just a rumor at this stage.

Anyone who has any more or better info, please contact me.

[Macunaima]

The ladies from Davida and Daspu will be on a float in the samba school Caprichoso dos Pilares during this Carnival, representing a 17th century Brazilian prostitute who lead the resistance againdt the Dutch invaders.

And the pros bloco "Prazeres da Vida" will parade from R. Imperatriz Leopoldina in Praça Tiradentes to join with a Banda da Bola Preta, the official "opening" school of Carnival on this coming Saturday morning.

Come out and show your support for the women who work to make tyour lives more fun. And Bola Preta is a blast...

[Bango Cheito]

From what this forum seems to have on the subject, the places in thailand have individual booths, but not rooms with their own shower. I guess I could be misinformed about that and places over there DO have the individual showers.

I imagine it largely has to do with personal tastes in women. Personally I don't like women that are too thin or don't have enough curves to them. To me I am more in line with a South American standard of beauty.

Speaking of that, Macu it is real interesting that you commented once that the locals in Rio seem to be getting more and more out of shape as more and more processed foods are flooding the market. A friend of mine visited Rio in August 2005 after having gone with me and another friend there in August 2004, and he said he noticed a marked difference in the amount of beer bellies and fat rolls!

[Lover Boy #2]

Bango Cheito,

I saw your post where you mention Thailand. You are totally wrong. Thailand has the closet atmosphere to Brasil (in terms of the type of clubs and services).

"Also, none of the places I read about there are even close to being set up the way a therma is"........ this isn't true at all. I don't know what you are reading. I lived in LOS for many years. Anything in Brasil is available in Thai (except the willingness to engage in anal). There are many clubs from BKK to Pattaya that are almost identical to the terma experience. You have to get in and look.

[Macunaima]

I'd like to hear the other side of the story, too. Anyone who knoews anything about it it, I'm all ears.

But seeing as how pros are notoriously cop-shy and seeing as how she went to the TOURIST POLICE, which are there to protect tourists, she must feel that she has a pretty damned good case.

Under Brazilian law, whether or not she made a pain in the ass of herself, if he hit her and left a mark and she can prove that, he could potentially be in some serious shit. "Serious" in its potential to fuck up his vacation and cost him much more money than she was asking for, at any rate. Apparently she went to the hospital right after the event and has friends to vouch for her regarding what happened, so... In any case, this guy's name probably has a flag next to it on the PF's computer, which is not a good thing.

But that name seems to me to be completely invented, so this whole thing might just be moot, anyhow.

[Gladiator]

I would like to hear the other side of the story...

Chances are this hooker tried to scam the gringo somehow and things escalated till he had no option but to kick her ass out of his room.

[Macunaima]

04/12/2005 - 16h02m
Garota de programa denounces American for beatng her
Camilo Coelho - Extra

RIO - Delminha Fernandes da Veiga, a 25 year-old garota de programa filed charges last Sunday in the Delegacia Especial de Atendimento ao Turista (Deat) against David Steven Paul, an American. According to friends, Delminha met the American in the early hours of Sunday morning in a club in Copacabana. The two slept together in an apartment which he had rented on Avenida Atlântica, but the next morning, David refused to pay for the services rendered. According to Delminha, the two fought and the American beat her. She then contracted a lawyer and, together with her friends, filed charges against the supposed agressor at DEAT. The garota de programa has a swollen eye due to rceiving a blow. The American was taken to the Federal Police.


That gringo's name looks a little odd to me...