General Reports

[Mr Enternational]

I have read the threads and reports but can't find much about Valentine's day and / or any events for that day. Is there anything special going on that day / weekend? Events?

There is a kissing contest at the mall and the restaurants will be busy as shit. Not only does it take hours to get your order, but they bring out one dish at a time. So you may get your kale now, 30 minutes later your steak comes out, then an hour after that you get your mashed potatoes. Then when you ask for the bill MAYBE they will bring your drink.

[Syzygies]

I have been very surprised at how crowded the MRT and BTS have become over the past three years. A few months ago I took the MRT from Sukhumvit and had to wait for three trains before I could board. Unfortunately I never seem to get crowded up against a group of college girls. I did get wedged between two ladyboys once but that was no fun.

Yes its not like a Jap porn movie where college girls can get molested in public transport.

[TheBronx]

Changed my plans and will be going to BKK and Pattaya the weekend of the 14th. I have read the threads and reports but can't find much about Valentine's day and / or any events for that day. Is there anything special going on that day / weekend? Events? Special parties? Girls in the bars dressing up in lingerie? Anything? This will be my second visit to Thailand and wanted to hit up the places I missed and it being Valentine's I was wondering if the bars / clubs would be doing anything special as they did for Halloween.

[Allover]

I have been very surprised at how crowded the MRT and BTS have become over the past three years. A few months ago I took the MRT from Sukhumvit and had to wait for three trains before I could board. Unfortunately I never seem to get crowded up against a group of college girls. I did get wedged between two ladyboys once but that was no fun.

For anybody staying in BKK for a few days or more you should buy the Rabbit card. It costs B100 but it is good for 5-7 years. The card is reloadable and will definitely save you time and aggravation when using the BTS. Just add money to the card at any BTS manned booth when lines are small. I've used my Rabbit card over my last two Thai trips and love it.

[Syzygies]

I ride the BTS and mrt or srt trains everyday. The folks that make comments about how crowded the trains are, how hard it is to get on a train at certain stations, how slow the intervals are and how much they cost, which comments you read here and on other boards come from folks who probably never rode one. They are a godsend when living in Bangkok or staying here for extended periods of time.

Hard to understand why you love to write such arrogant or condescending comments. Experiences other than your own do exist. We can't help it if you have not experienced the busiest lines and busiest stations in peak hour. It stands to reason that not every line, travel direction, timeslot and every station is identical for the experience.

I have indeed experienced (not read about) very long queues of people at certain MRT stations (when had to wait till get on maybe the 3rd train to arrive) and they even have employees to control the queueing and deciding how many people to let on. Also several times travelled on the BTS in peak hour with people so packed in like sardines, that my Mrs who is short could barely tolerate it and does not like to use the BTS for this reason. This was the Samrong Line going outwards. As you get further out it improves since people are getting off, and less getting on. Your line to Thonburi side could be better.

Guys should be aware of what it can be like at its worst. Sure MRT and BTS can be very useful to travel faster than peak traffic will allow, and cheaper. However I don't advise it necessarily for short distances in Peak hour on certain lines, when the wait time and overcrowding can make it not worthwhile.

Here is another real experience:
22.30 or so 2 nights ago, there were several girls on Soi 4 way better looking (and doable for looks), including a Viet girl or more, than the very average (at best) bunch outside Loll-itas. I did not actually buy after talking to the girls (have to get the right vibe too). I am yet to see the Loll-itas beauties after passing 2 or 3 times recently, but I could be unlucky. You see, I don't say its impossible, just rare.

[Nyezhov]

Riding the BTS at rush hour is obviously going to be very crowded. However you are incorrect about Asoke, it is actually one of the best places to catch the BTS because many people exit the train to transfer to the MRT and there is always space to get on the train.

I have no problem riding a crowded train crammed up against a group of college girls.

I ride the BTS and mrt or srt trains everyday. The folks that make comments about how crowded the trains are, how hard it is to get on a train at certain stations, how slow the intervals are and how much they cost, which comments you read here and on other boards come from folks who probably never rode one. They are a godsend when living in Bangkok or staying here for extended periods of time.

[BestTimeEver]

Hi to all!

I will arrive in BKK on November 20 and will leave on November 26.6 days, way to short, I know. Anyone interested, just PM me and we can have a drink. You may have to help me with my alibi though, if the wife calls and wants to facetime LOL I have been in BKK before and know my way. So with the very limited amount of time given, I will make the best out of it.

I love to have different experiences during a trip, so I will likely try out many different options. Looking for the Best Time Ever, so to say. I don't need to take home a girl every night, as long as I have fun. Heck, I don't even need to pop in every session (and popping becomes for sure more difficult towards the end of the trip).

This is more or less on my to do-list for the next trip. Do I miss anything? LOL this is quite a nice list. Man do I love LOS!!

- Massage parlors.

- GoGo's.

- Freelancers.

- Soapies (Ratchada).

- Line / ThaiFriendly.

- Gentleman clubs.

- Beer Garten.

- Disco clubs.

- Escorts / smooci.

- Thermae.

- And yes, even L*litas and other BJ bars.

In addition, I like to go to cinemas in Thailand, eat at food courts and walk around the huge malls.

New for me this time will be the Gogo's in Patpong (somehow I never made it there). Line / ThaiFriendly is also new to me for this purpose (very annoying that they require a phone number, will get a sim at the airport). A G club may or may not be a first, still not decided whether I want to spend the money. Plus I would like to go to some pool party. Some hotels host parties like that, for example the Westin Grande next to Terminal 21 hosts one on November 16 (not fitting my schedule). Looks interesting! Does anyone know of a pool party between November 20 and 26?

Anyhow. Can't wait to be in BKK!

[Syzygies]

Riding the BTS at rush hour is obviously going to be very crowded. However you are incorrect about Asoke, it is actually one of the best places to catch the BTS because many people exit the train to transfer to the MRT and there is always space to get on the train.

Ha ha. Funny logic indeed. While many people exit BTS at Asoke, many do the reverse. A huge exit crowd from MRT go straight to the BTS.

There is not always plenty of room to get on, have queues, and perhaps may depend which direction you are going. My experience would be mainly in the outward direction. Almost always much more people want to get on than what get off in late afternoon and are queued. Crowd from the MRT and from Terminal 23 etc. Can be very large. Could be you are more correct for inward travel (towards National Stadium and Chatuchak), where taking the MRT would be an alternative for many, and might be the opposite direction to majority of travellers going home in late afternoon.

Even the queues of people trying to get a ticket, to top up card, and get in the gate can be annoyingly large at Asoke station. Everyone will have seen that. I therefore always aim to top up my card at a very quiet station and time of day.

In general, I am always finding inward travel on the BTS on On Nut (Bearing/Samrong) Line to have plenty of seats, but much more problems for outward travel (and the sardine phenomenon). I guess I always miss morning peak hour rush for inward travel.

I would say that Siam Centre station is the better station to get on for outward travel along Sukhumvit road due to interchange, but still becomes squashed like sardines within a small number of stops from there towards On Nut, in peak hours. I have had to queue at Asoke and maybe get on the 3rd train to arrive, which can still be better than queuing at some MRT stations.

So O.K. I concede that degree of queuing and jamming of people at Asoke stations probably greatly depends which direction you travel. Outward on Sukhumvit can be really bad. Carriage can get quite sticky with too many people (aircon not coping). My Mrs can't stand it at all (she is short).

[Houston Player]

However I agree getting on BTS in rush hour is pointless too at Nana or Asoke, Prom Phom etc., unless one is happy to be a sardine. Not very pleasant.

Riding the BTS at rush hour is obviously going to be very crowded. However you are incorrect about Asoke, it is actually one of the best places to catch the BTS because many people exit the train to transfer to the MRT and there is always space to get on the train.

[Syzygies]

I agree with not paying for live chats / cams, too much hassle for not much value.

4 k and VR porn is a big market. With VR porn, you can be in the middle of the action with 10 girls or whatever fit your tastes at the convenience and safety of your bedroom. They are relatively cheap for access to the entire library of a site. Just type into google best 4 k / vr porn site and you'll get the idea.

Pirate downloads seem to make a huge amount available for free now. I don't need an endless library to waste my time viewing.

I have seen it, but I did not pay. VR is not really my thing. Seems to concentrate on BJs a lot, and COF or CIM from a distance, not really my thing at all. Seeing cum spurting does nothing for me. Its just messy. Also I try to abstain from wanking these days so porn becomes unimportant. I did not like blurry porn, and pixelated stuff for sure.

Any camera is sort of "in the middle of action", but I don't have to fantasize that I am actually in there. Even I look at naked girls dancing in a gogo, I do not find myself imagining I am doing something to her at the time. I just can appreciate the beauty of her body to start with. Maybe I am a weirdo in this sense.

[Syzygies]

The MRT, if not during rush hours, is the best bet if going to or near your destination. Hint, they also have a (discount for seniors over 55), just ask for senior price when you buy your chit. MRT is owned by the Thai Kingdom and is building a stadium sized terminal for the future development of the entire system.

BTS is a private company and is very expensive and very crowded, compared to the MRT. If your traveling alone the price is not bad, but if traveling with a friend that doubles the price and a Taxi is a better bet. Again it depends where you are going and the amount of people.

The cheapest and fastest way to anywhere is the MotorTaxi or Motorbike, the guys in the orange vest. Most of the p4 p ladies use these after leaving your hotel to get back to their spot or work.

RL.

The guy wrote it is hard to get from cowboy to Nana by MRT. Clearly was a joke, since it does not even go there. Would be somewhat silly to catch BTS though for just one station, unless one is prepared to waste a lot of time. I suppose I can agree its expensive for just one stop. Normally more use for multi stops, like I used to go from On Nut to Asoke, at a more reasonable price, where taxi would be 80 Baht.

Thanks, have not used the seniors discount. Not sure I can do card top-up with senior discount, since could pass it on to a non senior.

Actually in rush hour, queues to get on MRT can be much worse than BTS depending on which station we are getting on. People wanting to catch MRT can be delayed more than 20 minutes waiting to just get on. Even at Sukhumvit station queues can be significant in rush hour. However I agree getting on BTS in rush hour is pointless too at Nana or Asoke, Prom Phom etc., unless one is happy to be a sardine. Not very pleasant. At least I am tall and can get some air above the crowd. Best to know the times of day when BTS becomes more viable (outside rush hours). Taxi also becomes much more viable outside rush hours. At night might get to Pat Pong from Asoke sukhumvit junction in just 10 minutes.

Getting to Nana Plaza from Asoke is quite walkable in good weather. Just 10 minutes can do it. Its just 1 km. Best to walk on the south side less obstructed. Otherwise I agree I would catch a motorcycle or taxi. Taxi is cheaper and a good option if no traffic jam.

[Nyezhov]

The MRT, if not during rush hours, is the best bet if going to or near your destination. Hint, they also have a (discount for seniors over 55), just ask for senior price when you buy your chit. MRT is owned by the Thai Kingdom and is building a stadium sized terminal for the future development of the entire system.

BTS is a private company and is very expensive and very crowded, compared to the MRT. If your traveling alone the price is not bad, but if traveling with a friend that doubles the price and a Taxi is a better bet. Again it depends where you are going and the amount of people.

The cheapest and fastest way to anywhere is the MotorTaxi or Motorbike, the guys in the orange vest. Most of the p4 p ladies use these after leaving your hotel to get back to their spot or work.

RL.

Dude where do you live? Both lines are crowded as hell in rush hour and other certain times. The difference between the two lines is that BTS covers the Main tourist district, the MRT does not, except Asoke-Sala Daeng / Silom, so its always going to be a bit less crowded as it does not go to Silom / Chitlom.

Now that of course is for those of us who live here. I will agree that a motosai or even a TukTuk will get you some place faster, ie Nana to Soi Cowboy, but I wouldn't be riding either from say more than a mile away, and yes, I have done it.

If you are mongering, here is your scout route:

Take the BTS to Nana, or walk to Soi 8.

Take the exit to Soi 8.

Go down Soi 8, turn right on the second alley.

Head down the alley.

[CodeWord901] girls will be on the left 100 meters in. Gaze upon them with lust.

Go past them or catch a suck, whatever, cut through the little walkway near the hair stylist and Argo Restaurant.

On your left will be Kasalong. Gaze upon them with lust.

Head down the street, you will see Soi Nana beckoning you like the working girl of Babylon in the distance.

Walk that way. This is a good street to fire up a doobie if you want.

400 meters, you reach Soi Nana. Turn right.

Cruise down Soi Nana. Gaze upon the hookers with lust. GGs primarily on the west side, LBs on the East.

I don't need to go over Nana itself. Gaze upon it with lust.

Go to Suk. Cross the street. Turn right.

Soi 7. Beergarden and African girls. Soi 7/1 BJ bars.

Continue up Suk. Hookers all the way.

Soi 11. You can walk down one side to the T and then back the other. This is the foreigner party district.

Back up Suk. The hookers are getting thick. The better looking ones are Ladyboys. Gaze upon them all with lust.

Spy the Ruamchitt and crowds near Soi 15 and you spied the Thermae.

Continue up Suk, the hookers start thinning out as you hit Terminal 21. Pass that Cross the street, left turn and you are at Soi Cowboy.

Then repeat. Thats a 2 klick walk, add another half a k from going up and won side streets. If you can't walk 2 klicks feuled by chang, you shouldt be here.

I do that walk in about half an hour if I am power walking.

[Robert Long]

Indeed, the hassle of getting from Soi Cowboy (nearest MRT Sukhumvit) to Nana Plaza (nearest MRT Sukhumvit) by MRT is famous.

If only there were some form of light railway built above Sukhumvit Road to get us there. They could call it air train. But wait, people might think it went to the airport, so maybe Bangkok mass Transit System (BTS) or Sky Train.

Walking is of course a criminal offence in Lower Sukhumvit and in any event not entertaining. If only there were venues between Cowboy and Nana Plaza. Maybe nightclubs down one Soi, massage places down others, perhaps a couple of blow job bars and a few dozen or more bars with willing and negotiable ladies.

And in the distopian Bangkok which you seem to have experienced, and is much at odds with many peoples experience, such a shame that there are no "oily massage" places to the east of Cowboy, no area of interest in the Silom part of town, no soapies. . . .

The MRT, if not during rush hours, is the best bet if going to or near your destination. Hint, they also have a (discount for seniors over 55), just ask for senior price when you buy your chit. MRT is owned by the Thai Kingdom and is building a stadium sized terminal for the future development of the entire system.

BTS is a private company and is very expensive and very crowded, compared to the MRT. If your traveling alone the price is not bad, but if traveling with a friend that doubles the price and a Taxi is a better bet. Again it depends where you are going and the amount of people.

The cheapest and fastest way to anywhere is the MotorTaxi or Motorbike, the guys in the orange vest. Most of the p4 p ladies use these after leaving your hotel to get back to their spot or work.

RL.

[LittleBigMan]

I know you said everyone is different and have different life style, and I completely agree.

But 10,000 baht? In Bangkok?

Even if someone lives in a sharing shady hostel, and don't have p4 p habits, 10 k still seems too far fetched.

Your reference is correct about Bangkok, I was talking about Pattaya but that doesn't mean move here! Stay away from it is a shit hole! 10,000 was also reference to accomodation only!

[TomSam]

In old days as a young man I bought the odd girly mag because I wanted to look at some beautiful girls naked and some hot pussy. Years later bought the odd porn video, even pirated ones in Thailand.

I keep thinking the porn industry has got to die out. I mean who pays for porn anyway, these days? It has been obtainable for free for a long time now, and does not have to be blurry. Adverts for porn games or webcam sites? Do they really work and bring enough revenue? Videos of webcams can also be watched for free. Who needs to interact? For interaction, I use real live naked girls, no video chat thankyou very much. Even years ago stuck in own country I would prefer a club with real live nude girls. The brothel girls were generally terrible not worth the money, excepting Asians. In home country I can just abstain and watch a few sexy movies when desperate (at no cost).

What persuades guys that they want to pay for a "private" webcam show? What for ? They can't put their own dick in her. I prefer video as can fast forward past all the boring bits, e.g. blow jobs.

Now sometimes I have downloaded Jap porn, mostly accidentally, and it is a great load of shit to me. Condoms, pixelated genitals, girl subjugation, not much beauty..

I agree with not paying for live chats / cams, too much hassle for not much value.

4 k and VR porn is a big market. With VR porn, you can be in the middle of the action with 10 girls or whatever fit your tastes at the convenience and safety of your bedroom. They are relatively cheap for access to the entire library of a site. Just type into google best 4 k / vr porn site and you'll get the idea.