General Reports

[Nyezhov]

Yeah well TIT and farangs don't count for anything except as walking ATMs so good luck with that. It would be good if you treated poorer people with respect in future.

I don't see an obvious Arab guy near Soi Isis as being some poor schnook who deserves respect. He is just a lowlife rip off artist.

I feel bad that you are an ATM. Perhaps you will get to know the right people in the future.

[Syzygies]

I have tried Sidegra but the copy Viagra I am taking now worked better for me. However, I did not try the 100 MG version so I am interested in sampling that one to see if it is worth switching to it.

I never count on the claimed dosage of active ingredient in these copies being accurate. But I do tend to assume the ones from the same source claiming to have, say, 200 MG instead of 100 MG will have more of the active ingredient in them. I agree that the claim of one having 500 MG in it had to be a joke but had no qualms about trying one or two to see if it had something closer to perhaps actual 100 MG in it. But it felt to me like it had nothing in it. No big deal.

There is a Viagra-category product on the vendor tables now claiming to have 5000 MG of the active ingredient in it! LOL. I have not tried it but I might some day.

Sheer madness. 100 MG is already over dose in many cases. Why try a bullshit product?

[Pointy Stick]

I don't have to worry about stuff like that. My roof is bigger than his.

Yeah well TIT and farangs don't count for anything except as walking ATMs so good luck with that. It would be good if you treated poorer people with respect in future.

[EihTooms]

If it were really 500 MG, you wouldn't be able to put your dick down for a week. Recommended dosage of Tadalafil / Cialis is 20 MG.

There is a Thai-made generic Sildenafil Citrate called Sidegra, it costs 100 baht for 4 x50 MG or 200 baht for 4 x100 MG pills. Since it's so cheap, and domestically produced, it doesn't pay to make fakes, and the product seems consistent. Since I discovered that one, I don't mess with other generic or "real" Viagra pills any longer.

I have tried Sidegra but the copy Viagra I am taking now worked better for me. However, I did not try the 100 MG version so I am interested in sampling that one to see if it is worth switching to it.

I never count on the claimed dosage of active ingredient in these copies being accurate. But I do tend to assume the ones from the same source claiming to have, say, 200 MG instead of 100 MG will have more of the active ingredient in them. I agree that the claim of one having 500 MG in it had to be a joke but had no qualms about trying one or two to see if it had something closer to perhaps actual 100 MG in it. But it felt to me like it had nothing in it. No big deal.

There is a Viagra-category product on the vendor tables now claiming to have 5000 MG of the active ingredient in it! LOL. I have not tried it but I might some day.

[Crocodilexp]

Some have not worked at all for me. For the hell of it I once sampled a few tablets of Tadalifil (spelling?), Cialis' active ingredient, claiming to contain 500 MG of the stuff in it.

If it were really 500 MG, you wouldn't be able to put your dick down for a week. Recommended dosage of Tadalafil / Cialis is 20 MG.

There is a Thai-made generic Sildenafil Citrate called Sidegra, it costs 100 baht for 4 x50 MG or 200 baht for 4 x100 MG pills. Since it's so cheap, and domestically produced, it doesn't pay to make fakes, and the product seems consistent. Since I discovered that one, I don't mess with other generic or "real" Viagra pills any longer.

[Nyezhov]

I'd say he way probably paying the police tea money to peddle that shit. Can you say the same? What would you do if someone tried to break your rice bowl by causing trouble, side with the troublemaker or the money maker?

I don't have to worry about stuff like that. My roof is bigger than his.

Oh and I usually just walk past and say no thanks, but like I said I was feeling ornery and was tired of feeling like I was in some cheap Iraki bazaar.

[Mr Enternational]

Expensive brand name watches can be A grade copies, where seller got them for amount X and sells them at 10 times the price. I know someone selling "Casio" watches and possibly other brands, but merely A grade copies obtained exceptionally cheaply in bulk. Louis Vuitton comes in various grades of copies from super crap ones to good copies.

Don't know about ten times the price, but exactly. I would not buy from any random person off the street though. I have been dealing with the same reputable people for years. If something goes wrong then they will fix it. I have had this supercopy Breitling for years with no problem. Paid 3000 baht for it.

I don't know how many times someone has said nice watch. A couple of days ago a guy said that is a Breitling right? I said yes. He said do they still mail you things? I had no idea what he was talking about. I thought he meant advertisements so I said no because I have had this watch like 7 years. He said they sent him a nice fancy box with assorted gourmet honey for Christmas. Once I was next to a guy that had the exact same watch (authentic one) except his did not have the gold. He was like wow, I could not afford that one.

I remember when those people sued OJ Simpson and he had to give them his Rolex watch. They thought it was authentic but it ended up being one of those supercopies and they valued it at $100. It is very easy to tell the cheap fake ones from the supercopies and anyone that sells them will gladly show you the difference if you can't tell just by handling it.

[Robert Long]

I was feeling ornery when one of the Middle East Rolex guys approached me and persistently tried to sell me a Rollie, so I offered him a hundred. He went to hand me the watch and I whipped out a 100 baht bill, he snatched the watch back and said $100. So I laughed and told him 100 baht was what it was worth, and he was trying to rip me off. He cursed me. My response was to smile, pull out my phone and say OK Abdul, lets call the Police, I have a Visa, how about you?

He took off like a shot hahahahahah.

Hey, take it easy on these guys, just say "no but thank you". They are all from Myanmar as well as the DVD sellers and the fake ED sellers. Go to MBK, most of the sellers are also from Myanmar. They all work for some slave master that pays them little for their work. They can't get a real job because no education, but they all speak English and a few other languages. I find most of them are friendly and will have a good conversation with you if you want to know about Myanmar.

A little sugar gets you farther than vinegar.

RL.

[Pointy Stick]

I'd say he way probably paying the police tea money to peddle that shit. Can you say the same? What would you do if someone tried to break your rice bowl by causing trouble, side with the troublemaker or the money maker?

I was feeling ornery when one of the Middle East Rolex guys approached me and persistently tried to sell me a Rollie, so I offered him a hundred. He went to hand me the watch and I whipped out a 100 baht bill, he snatched the watch back and said $100. So I laughed and told him 100 baht was what it was worth, and he was trying to rip me off. He cursed me. My response was to smile, pull out my phone and say OK Abdul, lets call the Police, I have a Visa, how about you?

He took off like a shot hahahahahah.

[Nyezhov]

. Expensive brand name watches can be A grade copies, where seller got them for amount X and sells them at 10 times the price. I know someone selling "Casio" watches and possibly other brands, but merely A grade copies obtained exceptionally cheaply in bulk. Louis Vuitton comes in various grades of copies from super crap ones to good copies.

I was feeling ornery when one of the Middle East Rolex guys approached me and persistently tried to sell me a Rollie, so I offered him a hundred. He went to hand me the watch and I whipped out a 100 baht bill, he snatched the watch back and said $100. So I laughed and told him 100 baht was what it was worth, and he was trying to rip me off. He cursed me. My response was to smile, pull out my phone and say OK Abdul, lets call the Police, I have a Visa, how about you?

He took off like a shot hahahahahah.

[Ed Setra]

I change up and try something new every now and then. Right now my favorite choice is the 100MG Pfizer Viagra "copies" along with a half or sometimes a whole Black Ant King tablet (at 20 baht per tablet), both of which I buy off the street vendors.

It is likely taking both of those tablets at the same time 1-2 hours before sexual activity delivers into my system no more and possibly even less active ingredient than the verifiable "original" Pfizer 100MG Viagra going for $79 USD in the USA. But, for whatever reason, the "copy" and the other tablet I take together gets it up, keeps it up and remains ready to deliver for a repeat the next day notably better and for only around 80-85 baht per dose.

Black Ant King tablets probably contain Sildenafil (although not labelled as such, no surprise there for a 'natural' product). There have been warning announcements from the FDA and their Aussie equivalent, the TGA. The FDA have tested Black Ant King tablets and proved content of sildenafil.

Just be aware if you are adding it to another sildenafil based med that your final ingested dosage is increased by an unspecified amount.

But we're all adults here, mostly.

[EihTooms]

Ha ha. Yes anything sold as originals but a hell of a lot cheaper, really must be a copy. However why but the genuine original when a generic will do, that is not even a fake because not claiming to be original.

I have sampled just about every original and generic/copy of Viagra and Cialis in and out of the presumably legitimate pharmacies of Bangkok (and from the USA) and have either felt no difference at all or felt weaker results than from what I and friends of mine buy as cheap as it gets at the street vendor tables on Sukhumvit Road. If I had felt the slightest bit better results from what I believe goes for $79 USD at full retail in the USA over what I pay roughly $0.63 USD for now at the Sukhumvit street vendors I would switch ASAP. But I actually felt less from them.

No matter what they are called, "original", "generic", "copies", "fakes", whatever, I assume there is some amount of the same active ingredient in all of the ones that work. Or there is an amazing placebo effect involved. And I am fine with that, too, if that is what it is.

Some have not worked at all for me. For the hell of it I once sampled a few tablets of Tadalifil (spelling?), Cialis' active ingredient, claiming to contain 500 MG of the stuff in it. I bought it from the same street vendor I buy other products from and it did absolutely nothing for me. But the same source product claiming to have 100MG in it worked fine. Maybe I sampled a bad batch. The cost was the same. I returned to the ones that worked.

I change up and try something new every now and then. Right now my favorite choice is the 100MG Pfizer Viagra "copies" along with a half or sometimes a whole Black Ant King tablet (at 20 baht per tablet), both of which I buy off the street vendors.

It is likely taking both of those tablets at the same time 1-2 hours before sexual activity delivers into my system no more and possibly even less active ingredient than the verifiable "original" Pfizer 100MG Viagra going for $79 USD in the USA. But, for whatever reason, the "copy" and the other tablet I take together gets it up, keeps it up and remains ready to deliver for a repeat the next day notably better and for only around 80-85 baht per dose.

[Syzygies]

Well not for me I guess. I'm in my upper 50's but reasonably fit. When I'm in LOS take one a day (100 MG sidegra) usually late afternoon. Works great for me whenever action is needed. I was there recently for 9 days leading up to new year day so popped 900 MG total. I do down plenty of good quality scotch though and it's tried proven combination for me over the years so far. I just buy it in any of the pharmacies on main Sukhumvit. Since I'm usually visiting as a short term "millionaire " don't pay much attention to price although I do get the generic ones.

I am not sure that age and fitness is that relevant to how strongly they work. Each person can find the right dose. I started with quarter of a pill when first came out, but found had to increase over time, and depending how much sex had recently. The less sex had, the less need for a boost. BBFS possible with no pill with GF. This is not a marathon fuck though, as she has had always enough orgasms in a relatively short time (extremely sensitive girl can cum in less than 2 minutes from DATY). Girls are lucky though. Many cums is possible. For me a struggle to get to first one, 2nd one rare.

Not sure the alcohol is helping your stiffness, more likely to make the dick less sensitive, and have adverse affect. However if you are a person that typically is too sensitive and cums too quick, alcohol can help last longer I believe. Alcohol is no benefit to me as I need my dick to be as sensitive as possible (difficult to cum person). For this reason, I try to quick up wanking too, as much as possible. It messes up dick sensitivity.

Try no alcohol and lower you Viagra dose, some time to see what happens.

[Syzygies]

BTW, I am certain the copies I buy off the street table vendors that claim to be original Pfizer 100 MG viagra tablets are NOT original and are copies. The color is a different shade of blue, they are a slightly different size and, oh yes, the "VGR" that is imprinted on the pill is spelled "VRG" on the copies. LOL. Regardless, they work better than the originals for me.

Ha ha. Yes anything sold as originals but a hell of a lot cheaper, really must be a copy. However why but the genuine original when a generic will do, that is not even a fake because not claiming to be original. One can never be sure that a very price paid for Viagra will mean it was the genuine thing anyway. So pointless here in Thailand. I knew a guy who insisted for me to buy expensive "real" Cialis for him, not the fake one. However I included a free pack of Apcalis. Next time he was converted to the cheap one. Presumably it worked much the same. Many years ago I was buying some cheap supposedly genuine Cialis in Pratuu Nam area, but I knew it wasn't real because it tasted more like Viagra and worked far better for me than real Cialis does, but maybe not for the expected 24 hours duration. Box did not have the right watermark but otherwise similar.

Anything bought off the street will not be genuine, even small shops not very official will be selling fakes. Boots a reputable chain probably does not sell fakes. Expensive perfumes in stalls may well be fake, watered down or whatever. Expensive brand name watches can be A grade copies, where seller got them for amount X and sells them at 10 times the price. I know someone selling "Casio" watches and possibly other brands, but merely A grade copies obtained exceptionally cheaply in bulk. Louis Vuitton comes in various grades of copies from super crap ones to good copies.

[EihTooms]

Ha ha. Surely you mean $70 per pack? I have never seen anything close to $70 per pill. Ouch.

Believe it or not, a friend of mine arrived in Bkk from the USA a few weeks ago and said $79 USD per TABLET is what the Pfizer 100 MG viagra is going for at full retail there unless you have an insurance subsidy.

He gave me 3-4 to try since he did get them subsidized by his insurance company. I had skipped a day of boner pills and sex and thought I would see how the "originals" compare to the same claimed product I buy off the street table vendors in Bkk for 600 baht per bottle of 30. Obvious copies. That is something like 63 cents in USD per 100mg tablet at today's exchange rate.

The result was I got LESS hard and felt LESS confident in maintaining what I got with the freshly bought originals than the copy stuff I buy for a tiny fraction of the cost. I gave the remaining 2-3 tablets of the original back to him.

Was it a psychological response instead of a genuine lack of response to the expensive stuff? Maybe. Frankly, I don't care. I am just glad the cheap copies I can buy for 600 baht per 30 tablets (63 cents per tablet!) work Great for me and I don't need to buy the originals.

BTW, I am certain the copies I buy off the street table vendors that claim to be original Pfizer 100 MG viagra tablets are NOT original and are copies. The color is a different shade of blue, they are a slightly different size and, oh yes, the "VGR" that is imprinted on the pill is spelled "VRG" on the copies. LOL. Regardless, they work better than the originals for me.