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[PinkPearl]

I would love to see this evidence. Please provide it and thanks in advance if you can do so.

Personally I have to ask who is more likely to provide better service, a PFP pay for play gal who is told in advance that she is going to get a huge tip for great service or a PFP lady to whom no tip is mentioned in advance. Surely the former.

Of course the PFP person would have to understand what great service means. We should also define that. Is it different from great attitude? Does it involve what type of services she is willing to give? I'd suggest that many PFP women in Bangkok would not be willing to perform the service of BB bareback sex, but if enough of a tip is offered then lo and behold they suddenly do a 180 and become willing to offer this great service. Is that not evidence that tipping can often bring better service?

I think you're proving his point. P4 P, you're already paying. You making tipping a norm and it becomes a sense of entitlement whereby if you don't tip, or if you don't tip enough, you'll receive poor service.

Proving his point? How is that? Please elaborate.

How is it making tipping a norm if a punter, who because he has become jaded from spending so many months in the LOS Land of Smiles, finds 90% of gals he picked up, namely streetwalkers, to be unworthy of a repeat or a tip?

[Mr Enternational]

I think you're proving his point. P4 P, you're already paying. You making tipping a norm and it becomes a sense of entitlement whereby if you don't tip, or if you don't tip enough, you'll receive poor service.

I am not a tipper, but how is this so if you are giving the tip AFTER the service?

[SinfullyKorean]

"Americans who are fully vaccinated against Covid-19 can safely travel at home and abroad, as long as they take basic precautions like wearing masks. ".

Hopefully, this will be taken into consideration as Thailand revises their quarantine policies. Why wait for 70% inoculation if the tourists are vaccinated and safe?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/02/h...cinations.html

[SinfullyKorean]

I would love to see this evidence. Please provide it and thanks in advance if you can do so.

Personally I have to ask who is more likely to provide better service, a PFP pay for play gal who is told in advance that she is going to get a huge tip for great service or a PFP lady to whom no tip is mentioned in advance. Surely the former.

Of course the PFP person would have to understand what great service means. We should also define that. Is it different from great attitude? Does it involve what type of services she is willing to give? I'd suggest that many PFP women in Bangkok would not be willing to perform the service of BB bareback sex, but if enough of a tip is offered then lo and behold they suddenly do a 180 and become willing to offer this great service. Is that not evidence that tipping can often bring better service?

I think you're proving his point. P4 P, you're already paying. You making tipping a norm and it becomes a sense of entitlement whereby if you don't tip, or if you don't tip enough, you'll receive poor service.

[Member #4733]

You are very correct. My mistake. Was just rushing through a post. Some 1 hour sessions in Thailand last 30 minutes too especially in Soi 6, G Clubs, FL, FS massage joints, etc.

In Thailand I do not get much more time than 45 minutes. I don't like regulars. I am a one-time-only and move on. Maybe that is the reason I get poor service in Thailand?

Agree Germany has way hotter girls. Remember back in 2012 when it was predominantly Czech, Hungarian, Polish, German, Russian, etc. Some were true model quality. Germany went downhill with the Romanian invasion. Problem is I like to party outside the club and this is difficult in Germany with only my regular girls willing to go out to do things outside the club.

Talking about the past is difficult because everybody has his own time window and preferences. First time I went to an FKK was in 2012. Many men in Holland tell me that was after the heyday in FKK land. But I liked it very much. On the other hand my top session was in 2018 with a Romanian girl. And all the posts here show that everybody has his own opinion. And you are correct that there is not much space to go out with girls beyond the club. But it happens to men that visit the same club often. If you want, you have to take them shopping first. Just give them wheels. If you want to party in a club then go to Samya in Cologne. That is beyond imagination. Just go there once and avoid the official holidays. For example on Good Friday they won't play the music loud till midnight out of respect for the Christian holidays. They are Turkish themselves. In Thailand I mostly like gogo's and just treat the girls with lady drinks. Somehow the sex in Thailand doesn't satisfy me. Too little skills or willingness. I don't know but the atmosphere is great.

[PinkPearl]

There is plenty of evidence that proves tipping doesn't improve service, if anything it ensures decline of attitude and increased sense of entitlement.

I would love to see this evidence. Please provide it and thanks in advance if you can do so.

Personally I have to ask who is more likely to provide better service, a PFP pay for play gal who is told in advance that she is going to get a huge tip for great service or a PFP lady to whom no tip is mentioned in advance. Surely the former.

Of course the PFP person would have to understand what great service means. We should also define that. Is it different from great attitude? Does it involve what type of services she is willing to give? I'd suggest that many PFP women in Bangkok would not be willing to perform the service of BB bareback sex, but if enough of a tip is offered then lo and behold they suddenly do a 180 and become willing to offer this great service. Is that not evidence that tipping can often bring better service?

[PinkPearl]

https://metro.co.uk/2021/03/31/mutan...erts-14333429/

Two-thirds of disease experts believe new variants of coronavirus could make vaccines ineffective within a year, a survey shows. The study, which saw the People's Vaccine Alliance interview 77 epidemiologists, virologists and infectious disease specialists from around the world, found about 66% of them think the virus will mutate so much that first-generation vaccines will be unable to prevent infection within 12 months. Of that group, nearly one-fifth believe it would occur within six months and one-third said within nine months. Another 18.2% think it will be at least two years. But fewer than one in eight experts think the vaccines will be able to withstand future mutations of the virus. It comes as manufacturers of the currently available injections including Pfizer, Moderna and AstraZeneca are now working on booster doses to ward off mutations of Covid-19. It is hoped an additional jab, given six to 12 months after the first two doses, may help to protect against variants including the Brazil, South African and UK strains. In February, Pfizer started offering a third dose to 144 volunteers who took part in the vaccine's early-stage testing in the US last year. And Moderna started clinical trials of a booster jab earlier this month, with volunteers who took part in the.

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2021/03/31/mutan...9/?ito=cbshare.

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I suppose an annual covid 19 vaccination could become the norm, like we have annual flu influenza shots now for the annually new flu mutations.

The future for related businesses may be bright, if you're looking to invest in something.

[GrapeMan]

Another benefit of the Romanians is that they kept the prices down, there was so much competition that only the stunners could get away with charging higher prices. I still hope to get back to the FKK's but I believe that it will be next year now as Europe won't have the virus under control for another six months.

Hell, I miss the days of the flat rate, all you can fuck, FKKs, which I don't know if any still exist. Mostly Romanian girls, occasionally some others, but usually a ton of them so there's always lookers, and well, you've already paid, so you get whatever you want too, as much as you want.

[Downandup]

Nonsense here. The FKKs had their heydays when Romanians were making up 85% of the line-ups. In fact Romanians made the FKKs. Good bodies coupled with great service. Other nationalities often got displaced to venues offering less value for money.

Another benefit of the Romanians is that they kept the prices down, there was so much competition that only the stunners could get away with charging higher prices. I still hope to get back to the FKK's but I believe that it will be next year now as Europe won't have the virus under control for another six months.

[Sunlover2]

The gal I occasionally see in Farangland to take the edge off comps closest to the Tulip ladies: both in age / looks and activities. So comparing her Farangland pricing to the Bangkok scene is as follows:

A short stay (SS) or quick visit (QV) is $60 USD or about 1,800 baht for a BJ. This would comp to Low-lee-tas for 800 baht or $27 USD, so a little over 2 x the price.

A half hour (HH) is $100 or about 3,000 baht for a suck and fuck. I would comp this closest to a Soi 4 streetwalker for 1,500 baht or $50 USD, so around 2 x the price.

An hour (FH) is $160 or about 4,800 baht for multiple shots on goal. I would comp this closest to a 1 hour Tulip session for 1,900 baht or $63, so about 2. 5 x the price.

Anything over 1 hour is where Bangkok's sliding scale becomes the real bargain.

SL.

[Berrys66]

https://metro.co.uk/2021/03/31/mutan...erts-14333429/

Two-thirds of disease experts believe new variants of coronavirus could make vaccines ineffective within a year, a survey shows. The study, which saw the People's Vaccine Alliance interview 77 epidemiologists, virologists and infectious disease specialists from around the world, found about 66% of them think the virus will mutate so much that first-generation vaccines will be unable to prevent infection within 12 months. Of that group, nearly one-fifth believe it would occur within six months and one-third said within nine months. Another 18.2% think it will be at least two years. But fewer than one in eight experts think the vaccines will be able to withstand future mutations of the virus. It comes as manufacturers of the currently available injections – including Pfizer, Moderna and AstraZeneca – are now working on booster doses to ward off mutations of Covid-19. It is hoped an additional jab, given six to 12 months after the first two doses, may help to protect against variants including the Brazil, South African and UK strains. In February, Pfizer started offering a third dose to 144 volunteers who took part in the vaccine's early-stage testing in the US last year. And Moderna started clinical trials of a booster jab earlier this month, with volunteers who took part in the.

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2021/03/31/mutan...9/?ito=cbshare.

Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK.

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/.

[XXL]

Germany went downhill with the Romanian invasion...

Nonsense here. The FKKs had their heydays when Romanians were making up 85% of the line-ups. In fact Romanians made the FKKs. Good bodies coupled with great service. Other nationalities often got displaced to venues offering less value for money.

[Lefeu]

...Germany went downhill with the Romanian invasion...

I liked the Romanian chicks. I did not think the other ethnicities were any better. I think the reason the FKKs went downhill was their pricing system. When I first visited the FKKs in 2006, the rate was 50 Euros for half and hour. There were many lovely girls from all over Europe back then. When I visited there 2 years ago, the rate was still 50 Euros per half hour. Most of the eye candy girls had moved on to other places, like Switzerland, Dubai, where the girls can earn much more.

[Tomasb]

Agreed.

When I travel to a foreign land outside of Western Europe, Oceania, or North America (excluding Mexico), I always check out the price of a haircut in a salon to get a gauge of what general personal services cost. In Thailand, I can get a really nice haircut, and other services with a hairstylist for 250-300 baht and that is in heavily trafficked tourist areas so sure it costs less elsewhere in Bangkok. Even cheap in and out haircut places in the US are over $20 now. So when I go, I get a few more haircuts than normal because it is so much cheaper. There is a place that I found off Suk near Paragon Mall where an older woman will sew your shirts etc. For a pittance — Like 50 baht or so to darn a shirt. That really tells you what most people live on even in the Capitol of the country.

But right next door to the hair salon is a BJ bar that charges considerably more than a standard haircut, not to mention what a FL might ask for in the same neighborhood.

True. Most foreigners are paying too much for the P4P labor component in poor countries though. When you do shit like get your motobike or computer fixed it is cheap as shit due to that cheap labor component. In the USA it costs like $100 per hour to work on my bike versus about $3 per hour in Thailand. Likewise in the USA it costs about $80 per hour to work on my computer versus about $5 in Thailand.

When it comes to buying electronics then you are going to pay the same prices as back home if your country is not one that charges exorbitant taxes on items as such. There is no labor to save money on with those items.

[Banana Boi]

Girls are 50 euro per half hour. It seems you took that as the price for one hour.

You are very correct. My mistake. Was just rushing through a post. Some 1 hour sessions in Thailand last 30 minutes too especially in Soi 6, G Clubs, FL, FS massage joints, etc.

I value the discussion to compare and will prefer Germany above Thailand for many reasons. Quality of the girls is at the top of my list.

Agree Germany has way hotter girls. Remember back in 2012 when it was predominantly Czech, Hungarian, Polish, German, Russian, etc. Some were true model quality. Germany went downhill with the Romanian invasion. Problem is I like to party outside the club and this is difficult in Germany with only my regular girls willing to go out to do things outside the club.