General Reports

[Old Thai Hand]

FYI: The tuition for Ramkhamhaeng for one term is 1600B. ( so cheap even a girl on a butt-***** salary can afford it) . If your talek tells you to send 30,000B to pay for her tuition at Ram, you know it's BS now.

Source: The official university receipt.

It's cheap because it's a shit university, for the most part, except for its law school. Many of the students are absolute crap and go there because they can't get in anywhere else. The only thing positive I'd say is that the international college pays quite well.

[NicFrenchy]

A good driver 25000B per month.

That's one to be cautious about... many Drivers were ex-Taxi drivers.

I usually take the Skytrain and a taxi if I really have to (like go to the Airport).

Usually I always take a taxi for small distances so it is hard for them to try and pull a fast one. Just tell him where you're going (in Thai) and don't reply to his questions... he'll know to shut up adn leave you alone.

[Andy Abs]

When the topic of rental car was posted I thought about my current situation.

I am thinking about buying a SUV and hiring a full time driver just to take me and my friends around to the bars, massage palors, and karaoke places.

The SUV would be a Toyota Fortunner, which can sit 6.

Cost about 20000B per month with insurance.

A good driver 25000B per month.

And since I don't go out everynight, I was wonder would anyone be interested in sharing this with me.

I am trying to feel this out because I hate the fu$king Taxis in Thailand and think they are are Issan swines, who are out to rob and cheat you, so I figured with a car and driver, a newbie in Thailand can be shown the sites (p4p) which are higher end without the potential for rip offs and commission scams by the fu$cking pigs of thai Taxi drivers.

FYI: Short side story on why I think so lowly of Thai taxi drivers.

When I first got to Bangkok I thought highly of all Thai people. And why shouldn't I, I come from a culture where you were lucky to get a "Hi" unlike like Thailand where people wai to you left and right. I befriended a few Taxi drivers. During the course of hanging out with these guys I realized that they think all foreigners are marks.

They would brag about how a rich farang took them to a fancy seafood restaurant where the total bill was 6000B and they got 1000B commission from the establishment in addition to enjoying a delicious meal of the finest seafood and cocktails with this tourist who was thinking he made a new Thai friend.

Another time they talked about how some white businessmen were either too business or lazy to go to the go-go and call him to ask for him help in finding some late night entrainment. They told me how they went out to petchburi and pick up some Thai street walker for 1500B and told the farang 6000B. Oh, the farang wanted a threesome, so it was 6000x2. Smiling and laughing at how they pocketed the difference of 4500 from each girl.

The next time you are in BKK and think you have found a new friend think again. Behind that smile, he is thinking of the ways he can burn you, his newest mark.

So that's my encounter with the local Thai taxis drivers. They should all be rounded up in a large truck and driven back to Issan to live with their pigs.

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Poor Issan girls grow up to be *****s

Poor Issan boys grow up to be Taxi bandits

There's an irony to this story. While we're fucking the Issan girls, the Issan guys are fucking us. Think about this the next time a Bangkok Taxi driver takes you on an unwanted tour of the city.

It sounds like you have Thailand all summed up! You have obviously been here a very long time? Issan seems to stick in your mind for some reason. The only people that get fucked over here are the gullible and the stupid. Back in the UK it was said that all Scousers were robbers. Umm. Funny thing was I had more trouble in London than Liverpool.

I wish people would not come on here and just generalize: all taxi drivers are from Issan. Bollocks. All poor Thai girls from Issan end up as P4Ps. Double bollocks. Can I ask. Did you just win the lottery?

[AndyBKK]

I find there is close correlation between a Girl's English skills and the number of years of secondary schooling or other English schooling.

Sorry to disappoint, but you will not find girls from family who have enough money to send them to "English schooling" in the go go bars and soapies of Bkk.

And from the hours of 12pm to 6pm each day the bar girls have nothing to do but practice their English by reading text books. One of the best buyers of basic English grammar books are bar girls, trust me on this one because I have visited the rooms of many working girls in Bangkok and I can say that all of them have some type of English grammar book. Some even have a collect of English grammar books.

The funny thing is that I have hooked up with non-working university girls and they can read everything in the English news paper, but no understand a word I say. There working girl counterparts can understand everything I say, but can't spell and in many cases read a basic sentence.

I know a girl who is currently 18 and has worked in a nana go go bar for 3 yrs. She can speak English fair well and is enrolling at Ramkhamhaeng University this term.

FYI: The tuition for Ramkhamhaeng for one term is 1600B. ( so cheap even a girl on a butt-***** salary can afford it) . If your talek tells you to send 30,000B to pay for her tuition at Ram, you know it's BS now.

Source: The official university receipt.

[AndyBKK]

you are willing to spend over 40k baht a month so you do not have to use a taxi?

I wish I had your money

Why not just find a private taxi ("limo") that hangs out at a hotel (not the vultures in front of the hotel) and have them on call when you need them....

and buy beers for the rest of us with the money you save !

BK

I have yet to find a private limo service that is reasonably price. I think the car and driver is the least expensive, but I am open to ideas. You have to keep in mind the odd hours. It's not like a 9am-5pm deal here, so the driver has so be available during the early evening and late night.

In addition to the above, having a private car and driver is a status symbol here and will land you a lot of freebies. ( not that is my main reason.) It just the Thai girls naturally assuming you're loaded and someone of rather high importance if you show up in a car with a driver. It's all on the outside BS here in Thailand. I probably have the same amount of money you do.

Let me know if you have any limo service that you would recommend.

[BKK Dreaming]

you are willing to spend over 40k baht a month so you do not have to use a taxi ?????

I wish I had your money

Why not just find a private taxi ("limo") that hangs out at a hotel (not the vultures in front of the hotel) and have them on call when you need them....

and buy beers for the rest of us with the money you save !

BK

[AndyBKK]

When the topic of rental car was posted I thought about my current situation.

I am thinking about buying a SUV and hiring a full time driver just to take me and my friends around to the bars, massage palors, and karaoke places.

The SUV would be a Toyota Fortunner, which can sit 6.

Cost about 20000B per month with insurance.

A good driver 25000B per month.

And since I don't go out everynight, I was wonder would anyone be interested in sharing this with me.

I am trying to feel this out because I hate the fu$king Taxis in Thailand and think they are are Issan swines, who are out to rob and cheat you, so I figured with a car and driver, a newbie in Thailand can be shown the sites (p4p) which are higher end without the potential for rip offs and commission scams by the fu$cking pigs of thai Taxi drivers.

FYI: Short side story on why I think so lowly of Thai taxi drivers.

When I first got to Bangkok I thought highly of all Thai people. And why shouldn't I, I come from a culture where you were lucky to get a "Hi" unlike like Thailand where people wai to you left and right. I befriended a few Taxi drivers. During the course of hanging out with these guys I realized that they think all foreigners are marks.

They would brag about how a rich farang took them to a fancy seafood restaurant where the total bill was 6000B and they got 1000B commission from the establishment in addition to enjoying a delicious meal of the finest seafood and cocktails with this tourist who was thinking he made a new Thai friend.

Another time they talked about how some white businessmen were either too business or lazy to go to the go-go and call him to ask for him help in finding some late night entrainment. They told me how they went out to petchburi and pick up some Thai street walker for 1500B and told the farang 6000B. Oh, the farang wanted a threesome, so it was 6000x2. Smiling and laughing at how they pocketed the difference of 4500 from each girl.

The next time you are in BKK and think you have found a new friend think again. Behind that smile, he is thinking of the ways he can burn you, his newest mark.

So that's my encounter with the local Thai taxis drivers. They should all be rounded up in a large truck and driven back to Issan to live with their pigs.

_______

Poor Issan girls grow up to be *****s

Poor Issan boys grow up to be Taxi bandits

There's an irony to this story. While we're fucking the Issan girls, the Issan guys are fucking us. Think about this the next time a Bangkok Taxi driver takes you on an unwanted tour of the city.

[AndyBKK]

I'm not sure if they worry about if people have money or not, I think they worry more about social class and possible connections you might have. And of course it helps if you smile and are friendly, if you start to raise a fuss and act like an idiot too early then you usually lose the argument. Smiling and playing the dumb farang act usually works for me so I guess I just look too stupid for them to bother with me half the time.

If you smile and talk softly and slowly in English, you can get out of most situations here. The local police and other government officials speak every little English, but make it out like they know a lot with there co-workers, so they will try to take care of you in a quick and orderly fashion as to avoid further conversation in which their lack of English can be expose. Losing face ( embarrassment) is a big thing here in Thailand.

[Betong]

Budget (through budget.com) are quoting me 300 euros/400 USD for a week's rental of a 4x4. Sound reasonable?

It does. In fact it's not that much more than for the little sedans I usually get.

[M P Lurker]

one way to tell if a girl was working **** is how good her english is. the girl, who is now 18, speaks very good english. she's been working for a few years.

i find there is close correlation between a girl's english skills and the number of years of secondary schooling or other english schooling.

e.g. the mp girl left school at age of 13 and has almost no english. the girl left school at 18 and her english is quite "good". then she just needs a bit of practice talking to farangs.

girls who picked up english in a bar mostly have just the crappy bargirl english, not "good" english.

[PinkPearl]

the only problems with checking ids is that fake ids are a dime a dozen here.

really? fake id is always a possibility, which is why i suggested other ways
to protect oneself, in post 2760.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...postcount=2760

btw, i wonder when was the last time a farang was busted for taking an **** female from soi cowboy or nep who claimed to be of age but wasn't and had a fake id. i've never heard of it happening, ever. imagine how much that would hurt the industry, not to mention the cops who take their share.

[AndyBKK]

so she would have started when she was only 15. when in any doubt i check the picture id and dob on the card to make sure she is the same person and not ****. if the pic does not definitely match the girl, then i act as if she is not legal and find another, hopefully, female.

thailand is a very poor country, so the people do what they have to do to survive. what's a girl to do if her families only source of income is a rice farm that has been flooded, which seems to happen a lot in los. she will risk being caught breaking the law to feed her relatives.

btw, if there weren't so many farang in the nation, many people in this kind of situation would be fucked. so i look upon my visits there as donations to charity.

the only problems with checking ids is that fake ids are a dime a dozen here. the same bar girl say that many of the younger girls, who claim they are 18, 19 are in fact ****. the only way to know for sure is to wait till the local police shows up, if you see them running in the back hiding out of site, then you know for sure that they are ****.

one way to tell if a girl was working **** is how good her english is. the girl, who is now 18, speaks very good english. she's been working for a few years.

[Artful]

They also do point-to-point rentals, which can be useful if you're using other modes of transport as well.

Betong and Terry: thanks for your replies. Budget (through budget.com) are quoting me 300 euros/400 USD for a week's rental of a 4x4. Sound reasonable?

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[Terry Terrier]

I've used a number of firms over the years but have been happiest with Budget. New cars, good rates, no problems. They'll even deliver and pick up your car wherever you want.

They also do point-to-point rentals, which can be useful if you're using other modes of transport as well.

[Betong]

Does anyone have a recommendation for a good car rental place in Bangkok?

I've used a number of firms over the years but have been happiest with Budget. New cars, good rates, no problems. They'll even deliver and pick up your car wherever you want.