General Reports

[Suntangh R]

Amjek et al,

I think you have adopted an argumentatitive path and you are a senior and presumably a respected member. An expat in another country should adapt to that country is obvious. And the first step is understanding their way of life. You would'nt like an expat in your country looking down on you and behaving in a supercilious manner, and subjecting his neighbours to his native customs.

Giotto has done well for himself, his reports are informative; he is helpful too. No I have not stayed at his Lodge nor partaken his free booze.

We had scintillating posts by guys like OTH, Rabbit etc. Alas, things are not the same. Lets not make them worse.

[The Pro]

An amusing thing.

Wonder why the Thai Press are not reporting it? .

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/14/bu...n-germany.html

http://asiancorrespondent.com/59962/..._campaign=Feed%3A+BangkokPundit+%28Bangkok+Pundit%29&utm_content=Twitter.

[Xerman]

Oh, you would like that. No. No banning for you. You are stuck here with the rest of us.

Amjeck,

Don't know, don't also care much, I do this from time to time to remind the readers about the connection between the handle and the hotel. If you don't like it you are free to complain to Jackson and have me banned.

Giotto.

http://www.livingstones.co.th

[HoyArroi]

I want to thank all the ISG members who post photographs. I have purchased a digital camera. I will be visiting Thailand, Vietnam, and the PI in the months of October through April. I will try to be as creative as some of you are. Kaintuck, Buttlover, etc. Great work. I promise to try to avoid posing my ladies in the same position, and uploading 20 photos when posting 2 or 3 would have been sufficient. So, thank you again, gentlemen. My goal is that the better photo posters will enjoy my photos as much as I enjoy theirs! Again, Khop Khun Khop, Mahalo, Gracias, Motto Bene, etc!

[PinkPearl]

For me not all that much. That's the one place that truly satisfies.

If you are referring to the SWs there, I suppose it is somewhat the same for me with those in BKK, inasmuch as I seldom bother with bar, gogo or MP girls. {In fact I've never BF a lady even though I usually bring one or more to my room every night in around 700 days since 07}. Although if SWs were ever eliminated I'm sure the other options would still make it worthwhile to winter here. So what is it you find so irresistible about the Pattaya Beach road gals, that they are the key to your remaining in LOS or not, and your second best option is to return to the USA? For what, crack whor*s?

No. If you had any experience with this type of girl you would know they lose their numbers one way or another very frequently. The chance of actually getting a girl on the phone again is very small.

I can't speak for Pattaya, since I've never been there or read much about the offerings on the Beach road. OTOH I have experience with SWs around NEP in BKK, and realize some change their numbers for various reasons {phone lost or stolen, stalkers, numbers expired, etc}. IME, though, on the present trip 5 out of 8 I tried to contact had retained the same numbers as they had before back in late 2009, early 2010. Many of these girls know each other, so I was also able to contact another one of the 8 through her friend. Other options would be {1} to share email addresses, {2} for her to have a hand written copy of your number in case she lost hers, and {3} to know the likely FL hangouts your SWs would go to if the BIB were cracking down on them. In BKK that would be places like the BG, Thermae, etc.

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"Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.". Ronald Reagan

[Opebo]

Surely there's more to the pooning life in Siam than just the Beach road in Pattaya.

For me not all that much. That's the one place that truly satisfies.

Any guy with phone numbers of SWs he had collected on previous visits should have still been in business, but perhaps you lost your "little black book"?

No. If you had any experience with this type of girl you would know they lose their numbers one way or another very frequently. The chance of actually getting a girl on the phone again is very small.

The fact somebody likes to treat somebody else as a sort of slave, doesn't mean the business module is legitimate and can be replicated based on the "somebody is doing it, I do it too".

Legitimacy? The most 'legitimate' - in terms of acceptance by populations and governments - ideology in the world today is the ideology of slavery.

[Amjeck]

I'm afraid you reap what you sow, and you sure are one angry and bitter fellow, unfortunately. Maybe an attitude change would help.

It's funny how some people can interpret realism for anger. The truth is ugly sometimes.

[BionicMan]

I'm with you on this Opebo.

Keep in mind Thais hope the Burmese stay dirt poor as long as possible so they can use them for cheap labor and make them work in inhumane conditions.

The fact somebody likes to treat somebody else as a sort of slave, doesn't mean the business module is legitimate and can be replicated based on the "somebody is doing it, I do it too".

[Chill Out]

@Amjeck: My experience with Asia and Asians (including Thais) has been quite rosy so far, after a decade here. I'm afraid you reap what you sow, and you sure are one angry and bitter fellow, unfortunately. Maybe an attitude change would help. I hope you can manage it someday.

[Giotto]

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I find it humorous how foreigners set up shop in LOS and then start to sympathize with the Thais. Thais don't give a shit about any of us, so why do foreigners care about politics for the Thai people and how it will better them? Expats especially get all wrapped up in it as if they are part of the society and start to believe that Thailand is theirs too. Thai politics is for the Thais and them only.

Amjeck,

I basically agree. Sympathizing with the Thais is really difficult .

Nevertheless, if you live here and try to run a business you should at least understand the mechanisms of Thai politics. Though analyzing the political situation here is only an academic exercise. Still fun.

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Why you dropping you're link in all your posts? Spam or marketing?

Don't know, don't also care much, I do this from time to time to remind the readers about the connection between the handle and the hotel. If you don't like it you are free to complain to Jackson and have me banned.


Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.th

[Amjeck]

@Opebo: So you'd wish long-lasting poverty on a people just so you can keep getting pussy on the cheap? No good.

I'm with you on this Opebo.

Keep in mind Thais hope the Burmese stay dirt poor as long as possible so they can use them for cheap labor and make them work in inhumane conditions.

This is Asia dude. There is nothing rosy and pretty about this place.

[Amjeck]

Amjeck,

I care about the Thai people. You should give it a try.

Giotto.

http://www.livingstones.co.th

I have and was dissapointed.

I find it humorous how foreigners set up shop in LOS and then start to sympathize with the Thais. Thais don't give a shit about any of us, so why do foreigners care about politics for the Thai people and how it will better them? Expats especially get all wrapped up in it as if they are part of the society and start to believe that Thailand is theirs too. Thai politics is for the Thais and them only.

Why you dropping you're link in all your posts? Spam or marketing?

[PinkPearl]

Obviously because his rule was a huge negative for our hobby. Why do you think we're all here?

Why should we care about the 'political problem'? (the problem is democracy, by the way) We fled here for sexual freedom: tolerated prostitution, which democracy took away from us back home.

Thailand isn't very poor anymore, alas for us, so we're only getting the dregs at the best of times, but the point about Thaksin was the concerted effort to close down and squeeze out the industry. Weren't you here during the 2001-2006 bad times? In 2005 I thought for sure it was all over. The Beach Road in Pattaya was completely empty for months on end, with only black-shirted troopers roaming. I was actually just about to give up and go home, when wonder of wonders, a coup the'état saved the us and the Ancien Régime! I can't tell you how happy I was, and how much I've enjoyed the last few years respite (which by the way has been better under dear Abhisit than under the other post-coup governments).

Now I predict another crackdown, perhaps the last one. Have any of you experience with South Korea? It once had an industry as burgeoning as Thailand's, and I'm sure in 1980 or even 1990 people would have scoffed at predictions of its demise, but it is gone now. Killed by democracy and 'prosperity'.

Admittedly I wasn't in LOS from 2001-2006, although I was a member here since 2005 and seriously considered visiting the Kingdom then. I think the deciding factor on me not flying over at that time were the photos of allegedly hot TGs in the photo section. By 2007, when I first visited, I had realized such pics were not a true representaion of what was available here. But, apart from that, in reading the forum back in 2005, I didn't get the impression that Thaksin had put an end to cheap and easy pussy in LOS.

Surely there's more to the pooning life in Siam than just the Beach road in Pattaya. Were all the bars and MPs shut down too? Any guy with phone numbers of SWs he had collected on previous visits should have still been in business, but perhaps you lost your "little black book"? Even now 6 years later, the BIB have been raiding the BKK Nana street girls like never before, yet that scene just gets better.

If democracy is the problem, then would a country like Canada have legalized prostitution? Or the Netherlands have state sanctioned brothels? OTOH how much copulating have sex tourists been enjoying in anti-democratic North Korea lately? Although it seems that most US states have chosen to make life difficult for guys looking to get some ass, I'd suggest the real cause is another, usually black, book dating back to King James.

"Prostitution (Prostitutie) in the Netherlands is legal and regulated. Operating a brothel is also legal. In the last few years, a significant number of brothels and "windows" have been closed because of suspected criminal activity. De Wallen, the largest and best-known red-light district in Amsterdam, is a destination for international sex tourism."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostit...he_Netherlands

"In Canada, the buying and selling of sexual services are not illegal, but most surrounding activities, such as public communication for the purpose of prostitution, brothels and procuring are outlawed.

"While the prohibition of the activities surrounding the sex trade makes it difficult to practice prostitution without breaking any law, the act of exchanging sex for money has never been illegal in Canada, a situation which has created and continues to create confusion and controversy."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Canada

"In the United States, each state has the power to decide whether or not prostitution is legal in that state or part of that state. In all but one USA state (Nevada) the buying and selling of sexual services is illegal and usually classified as a misdemeanor.

"Nevada allows licensed brothels, but only in some parts of the state, in rural counties"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostit..._United_States

[Uzinuzin]

Now that the little sis is in charge as the first female PM of LOS I wonder if just for the appearances she might be thinking about tightening up rules for P4P. I know it probably won't effect anything in the long run, but do you think just to be proper PC, as a woman, she might come up with some crazy new rules and regulations!

It happens all over the world with new female presi, pm or mayor (they are the worst when they find themselves with new powers!) Even in UK we have some draconian laws push through in the last days of that bi*ch HH before she efed-off. Let's hope Thai male politicians stand firm. I suspect, just to keep with the image, she might try a few new tricks.

What do you think. ?

[PinkPearl]

In my sad homeland (the Bad Place) there are huge and burgeoning reserves of poors as well, but acceptable sex services are difficult and dangerous to find. The key difference is the openness or toleration of the business. It is this last factor - toleration - that democracy rings the death knell for.

As I understand it the laws in the USA make prostitution illegal and the standard of living there makes it expensive. For the same price here for the time of your life you are looking at a low track needle user there. Certainly hooking up with the latter types is "dangerous" in a number of ways, as well as the perils of just being in her hood.

I'd suggest that in the USA it is religion and feminism that have little "toleration" for prostitution. While in LOS it is also illegal it is at the same time practicly legal, since Buddhists are not hung up on sex and TGs are normal women the way that the universe meant for them to be created.

"Prostitution in Thailand is illegal, although in practice it is tolerated and partly regulated. Prostitution is practiced openly throughout the country [1][2] Local officials with commercial interests in prostitution often protect the practice."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Thailand

"In recent years, Thailand has become notorious for its sex trade. Although prostitution is technically illegal, 'Thailand's reputation as a hotspot for sex tourism has persisted"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_P...on_in_Thailand