General Reports

[Nyezhov]

. Expensive brand name watches can be A grade copies, where seller got them for amount X and sells them at 10 times the price. I know someone selling "Casio" watches and possibly other brands, but merely A grade copies obtained exceptionally cheaply in bulk. Louis Vuitton comes in various grades of copies from super crap ones to good copies.

I was feeling ornery when one of the Middle East Rolex guys approached me and persistently tried to sell me a Rollie, so I offered him a hundred. He went to hand me the watch and I whipped out a 100 baht bill, he snatched the watch back and said $100. So I laughed and told him 100 baht was what it was worth, and he was trying to rip me off. He cursed me. My response was to smile, pull out my phone and say OK Abdul, lets call the Police, I have a Visa, how about you?

He took off like a shot hahahahahah.

[Ed Setra]

I change up and try something new every now and then. Right now my favorite choice is the 100MG Pfizer Viagra "copies" along with a half or sometimes a whole Black Ant King tablet (at 20 baht per tablet), both of which I buy off the street vendors.

It is likely taking both of those tablets at the same time 1-2 hours before sexual activity delivers into my system no more and possibly even less active ingredient than the verifiable "original" Pfizer 100MG Viagra going for $79 USD in the USA. But, for whatever reason, the "copy" and the other tablet I take together gets it up, keeps it up and remains ready to deliver for a repeat the next day notably better and for only around 80-85 baht per dose.

Black Ant King tablets probably contain Sildenafil (although not labelled as such, no surprise there for a 'natural' product). There have been warning announcements from the FDA and their Aussie equivalent, the TGA. The FDA have tested Black Ant King tablets and proved content of sildenafil.

Just be aware if you are adding it to another sildenafil based med that your final ingested dosage is increased by an unspecified amount.

But we're all adults here, mostly.

[EihTooms]

Ha ha. Yes anything sold as originals but a hell of a lot cheaper, really must be a copy. However why but the genuine original when a generic will do, that is not even a fake because not claiming to be original.

I have sampled just about every original and generic/copy of Viagra and Cialis in and out of the presumably legitimate pharmacies of Bangkok (and from the USA) and have either felt no difference at all or felt weaker results than from what I and friends of mine buy as cheap as it gets at the street vendor tables on Sukhumvit Road. If I had felt the slightest bit better results from what I believe goes for $79 USD at full retail in the USA over what I pay roughly $0.63 USD for now at the Sukhumvit street vendors I would switch ASAP. But I actually felt less from them.

No matter what they are called, "original", "generic", "copies", "fakes", whatever, I assume there is some amount of the same active ingredient in all of the ones that work. Or there is an amazing placebo effect involved. And I am fine with that, too, if that is what it is.

Some have not worked at all for me. For the hell of it I once sampled a few tablets of Tadalifil (spelling?), Cialis' active ingredient, claiming to contain 500 MG of the stuff in it. I bought it from the same street vendor I buy other products from and it did absolutely nothing for me. But the same source product claiming to have 100MG in it worked fine. Maybe I sampled a bad batch. The cost was the same. I returned to the ones that worked.

I change up and try something new every now and then. Right now my favorite choice is the 100MG Pfizer Viagra "copies" along with a half or sometimes a whole Black Ant King tablet (at 20 baht per tablet), both of which I buy off the street vendors.

It is likely taking both of those tablets at the same time 1-2 hours before sexual activity delivers into my system no more and possibly even less active ingredient than the verifiable "original" Pfizer 100MG Viagra going for $79 USD in the USA. But, for whatever reason, the "copy" and the other tablet I take together gets it up, keeps it up and remains ready to deliver for a repeat the next day notably better and for only around 80-85 baht per dose.

[Syzygies]

Well not for me I guess. I'm in my upper 50's but reasonably fit. When I'm in LOS take one a day (100 MG sidegra) usually late afternoon. Works great for me whenever action is needed. I was there recently for 9 days leading up to new year day so popped 900 MG total. I do down plenty of good quality scotch though and it's tried proven combination for me over the years so far. I just buy it in any of the pharmacies on main Sukhumvit. Since I'm usually visiting as a short term "millionaire " don't pay much attention to price although I do get the generic ones.

I am not sure that age and fitness is that relevant to how strongly they work. Each person can find the right dose. I started with quarter of a pill when first came out, but found had to increase over time, and depending how much sex had recently. The less sex had, the less need for a boost. BBFS possible with no pill with GF. This is not a marathon fuck though, as she has had always enough orgasms in a relatively short time (extremely sensitive girl can cum in less than 2 minutes from DATY). Girls are lucky though. Many cums is possible. For me a struggle to get to first one, 2nd one rare.

Not sure the alcohol is helping your stiffness, more likely to make the dick less sensitive, and have adverse affect. However if you are a person that typically is too sensitive and cums too quick, alcohol can help last longer I believe. Alcohol is no benefit to me as I need my dick to be as sensitive as possible (difficult to cum person). For this reason, I try to quick up wanking too, as much as possible. It messes up dick sensitivity.

Try no alcohol and lower you Viagra dose, some time to see what happens.

[Syzygies]

BTW, I am certain the copies I buy off the street table vendors that claim to be original Pfizer 100 MG viagra tablets are NOT original and are copies. The color is a different shade of blue, they are a slightly different size and, oh yes, the "VGR" that is imprinted on the pill is spelled "VRG" on the copies. LOL. Regardless, they work better than the originals for me.

Ha ha. Yes anything sold as originals but a hell of a lot cheaper, really must be a copy. However why but the genuine original when a generic will do, that is not even a fake because not claiming to be original. One can never be sure that a very price paid for Viagra will mean it was the genuine thing anyway. So pointless here in Thailand. I knew a guy who insisted for me to buy expensive "real" Cialis for him, not the fake one. However I included a free pack of Apcalis. Next time he was converted to the cheap one. Presumably it worked much the same. Many years ago I was buying some cheap supposedly genuine Cialis in Pratuu Nam area, but I knew it wasn't real because it tasted more like Viagra and worked far better for me than real Cialis does, but maybe not for the expected 24 hours duration. Box did not have the right watermark but otherwise similar.

Anything bought off the street will not be genuine, even small shops not very official will be selling fakes. Boots a reputable chain probably does not sell fakes. Expensive perfumes in stalls may well be fake, watered down or whatever. Expensive brand name watches can be A grade copies, where seller got them for amount X and sells them at 10 times the price. I know someone selling "Casio" watches and possibly other brands, but merely A grade copies obtained exceptionally cheaply in bulk. Louis Vuitton comes in various grades of copies from super crap ones to good copies.

[EihTooms]

Ha ha. Surely you mean $70 per pack? I have never seen anything close to $70 per pill. Ouch.

Believe it or not, a friend of mine arrived in Bkk from the USA a few weeks ago and said $79 USD per TABLET is what the Pfizer 100 MG viagra is going for at full retail there unless you have an insurance subsidy.

He gave me 3-4 to try since he did get them subsidized by his insurance company. I had skipped a day of boner pills and sex and thought I would see how the "originals" compare to the same claimed product I buy off the street table vendors in Bkk for 600 baht per bottle of 30. Obvious copies. That is something like 63 cents in USD per 100mg tablet at today's exchange rate.

The result was I got LESS hard and felt LESS confident in maintaining what I got with the freshly bought originals than the copy stuff I buy for a tiny fraction of the cost. I gave the remaining 2-3 tablets of the original back to him.

Was it a psychological response instead of a genuine lack of response to the expensive stuff? Maybe. Frankly, I don't care. I am just glad the cheap copies I can buy for 600 baht per 30 tablets (63 cents per tablet!) work Great for me and I don't need to buy the originals.

BTW, I am certain the copies I buy off the street table vendors that claim to be original Pfizer 100 MG viagra tablets are NOT original and are copies. The color is a different shade of blue, they are a slightly different size and, oh yes, the "VGR" that is imprinted on the pill is spelled "VRG" on the copies. LOL. Regardless, they work better than the originals for me.

[SexIsLove]

I believe 100 MG is unnecessarily high dose for many or most guys. So smaller dose tablets maybe more convenient if happen to be the right dose or even if 25 MG is you ideal dose. These are powerful pills, so better to take smaller doses especially if will take a top up after 4 hours to do the next girl.

Well not for me I guess. I'm in my upper 50's but reasonably fit. When I'm in LOS take one a day (100 MG sidegra) usually late afternoon. Works great for me whenever action is needed. I was there recently for 9 days leading up to new year day so popped 900 MG total. I do down plenty of good quality scotch though and it's tried proven combination for me over the years so far. I just buy it in any of the pharmacies on main Sukhumvit. Since I'm usually visiting as a short term "millionaire " don't pay much attention to price although I do get the generic ones.

[Syzygies]

Amazingly Pfizer Viagra is still selling for $70 per 100 MG pill at the same pharmacy in my home town.

Ha ha. Surely you mean $70 per pack? I have never seen anything close to $70 per pill. Ouch.

I agree with you re Cialias 20 MG. Not really a very noticeable effect for me. I wonder if I would have to go to a higher dose to notice anything. Anyway Sildenafil works much stronger and much faster as well.

When sex happens to occur at very short notice, I could take a fragment at start of the sex session, just before showering most likely, start with foreplay, DATY, BJ etc. And commence the sex with natural hard on. Assuming an empty stomach (no meal) the boost to the dick could start to come in at the say 25 min mark, maybe just when the dick might have been weakening. However with new girls that might be dick scared and difficult, I would be needing a boost from the start.

Hot regular girls, might not need a boost especially with BBFS, unless trying to fuck extra long duration, a precautionary boost coming in at the 25 to 30 min mark can be handy. I remember my first regular girl in Thailand in 1991. Don't think we had any Viagra then. She gave me BBFS but said she normally doesn't do it. Her reason is she claimed I needed BBFS to stay hard, and condoms were causing my dick to be not so strong. Ha ha. I suppose many guys are still saying they need BBFS or dick won't be working long enough, despite having a Viagra boost possibility, or maybe they just won't cum with the condom on.

Wanking definitely has a bad effect on my sex powers, so I try to ban all wanks from a week or two before any period of expected regular to daily sex. Would like to have given up wanking (or HJs) completely, but have not quite managed this during long periods of no fucks.

[Member #4698]

Good to know for back up purposes that there are other pharmacies in BKK like Chula Pharmacy selling Viagra and it's generic. But I used to buy only limited quantities from Charoen Pharmacy anyway because I disliked the fact that they did not have AC and stored their inventory at BKK temp. I never had a problem with efficacy, but still I did not like it on general principal. So, I preferred buying large quantities in air-conditioned national pharmacy chains in Jakarta and Manila. But all that is water under the bridge for me now that generic Viagra is available in the USA. I just filled a prescription for 30 100 MG generic Viagra for $45 ($1. 5 per tab). I think my cost would have been even lower if I had had the patience to wait a couple of hours for my insurance company to confirm the prescription with my doctor and give it's approval to the pharmacy. But I don't like waiting so I just paid full list price. LOL. I will find out my real cost on my next refill before I head back to BKK fully loaded.

I have a pill splitter so no problem converting 100mg into two 50 MG. I also take 2 500 mg extra strength Tylenol with my vitamin V and drink plenty of liquids to avoid headaches. I used to use 20 MG Cialis with no negative side effects, but it did not work as well for me as 50 MG Viagra does.

Amazingly Pfizer Viagra is still selling for $70 per 100 MG pill at the same pharmacy in my home town.

[Syzygies]

Just verified the prices of Sidegra (generic Viagra) at the pharmacy inside the Foodland at Sukhumvit / Soi 5. Pack of 4 pills of 50 Mg Sidegra is 100 Baht. Pack of 4 pills of 100 Mg Sidegra is 180 Baht.

I believe 100 MG is unnecessarily high dose for many or most guys. So smaller dose tablets maybe more convenient if happen to be the right dose or even if 25 MG is you ideal dose. These are powerful pills, so better to take smaller doses especially if will take a top up after 4 hours to do the next girl.

[GreenBud]

any versatile Pharmacy to recommend?

Just verified the prices of Sidegra (generic Viagra) at the pharmacy inside the Foodland at Sukhumvit / Soi 5. Pack of 4 pills of 50 Mg Sidegra is 100 Baht. Pack of 4 pills of 100 Mg Sidegra is 180 Baht.

[Chuday]

So what is the difference in your mind between a FL and a pro WG? There are plenty full time FL's and part time FL's. All three types rent out their pussies for money. 5 star Hotel FL's might be considered more polished. That's all.

Thank you. Just the information I was seeking.

Like someone else pointed out, a pussy is a pussy. So is a wrist watch and a million other things on this planet. IMO, it's the total experience that makes one better than the other. When it comes to pro WG, their fake moans and mechanical method is a total turn off. Jakarta is my fav city because of the FL's. Hopefully BKK will trump Jakarta and then I will frequent BKK more often (easier to get to every month).

[Nyezhov]

Funny name "Southeast" short for Southeast Asia I guess.

That seems to be between Yong Lee restaurant and the Thermae. Haven't eaten at Yong Lee for many years now. Found the old Chinese staff to be a bit grumpy and aggressive "Hong Kong" style, and food was cheap but quality average and not very interesting. Okay For basics like "Laat Naa" which I never order. Just not in that vicinity much I guess. In 1991 girls from Thermae caf or Thermae Soapy used to eat at Yong Lee a lot. In that day, Thermae was located very close to Soi 13 but moved maybe about 1994 or so. Hard to know since I was away for a time. I guess Yong Lee is still the same as 27 years ago.

Tong Kee is another Chinese Hong Kong style (AFAIK) on other side of Suk but liked them more (much bigger) and quite good roast duck.

I haven't eaten in Yong Lee in a long time. I am not in the area much and when I am, its usually closed. But hey its a Landmark, when it goes, the old days are over.

[Syzygies]

Away from the Sukhumvit area but you could try Chula Pharmacy on Thanon Rama IV, between Surawong and Silom (closer to Surawong). Sala Daeng BTS or Silom MRT. It's been a couple of years since I was there, tbh, but their produce was genuine (generics and branded) and inexpensive. I've found prices in South East Pharmach near Sukhumvit Soi 15 to be OK, but not used them much recently either.

Funny name "Southeast" short for Southeast Asia I guess.

That seems to be between Yong Lee restaurant and the Thermae. Haven't eaten at Yong Lee for many years now. Found the old Chinese staff to be a bit grumpy and aggressive "Hong Kong" style, and food was cheap but quality average and not very interesting. Okay For basics like "Laat Naa" which I never order. Just not in that vicinity much I guess. In 1991 girls from Thermae café or Thermae Soapy used to eat at Yong Lee a lot. In that day, Thermae was located very close to Soi 13 but moved maybe about 1994 or so. Hard to know since I was away for a time. I guess Yong Lee is still the same as 27 years ago.

Tong Kee is another Chinese Hong Kong style (AFAIK) on other side of Suk but liked them more (much bigger) and quite good roast duck.

[Ed Setra]

Still no one has any versatile Pharmacy to recommend?

Away from the Sukhumvit area but you could try Chula Pharmacy on Thanon Rama IV, between Surawong and Silom (closer to Surawong). Sala Daeng BTS or Silom MRT. It's been a couple of years since I was there, tbh, but their produce was genuine (generics and branded) and inexpensive. I've found prices in South East Pharmach near Sukhumvit Soi 15 to be OK, but not used them much recently either.