General Reports

[Kiev Freak]

In the 2-3 years pre Covid I was mostly an online dating site punter; ThaiFriendly, Tinder and in the earlier years ThaiCupid. About 80% online and 20% go-go bars, occasionally just meet them in restaurants, malls, on bts / mrt trains. I rarely took girls from beer bars. Only once or twice took a massage shop girl in the past 5-6 years.

Of course, during the Covid closures new girls were practically all met online, only sometimes walking around.

Then when beer bars began to reopen a few months ago, it was fun and a relief to get back out there in the world to shop for new girls in person.

There are some exceptions. But, generally, if it is strictly for pay and clearly understood as such from the beginning, I will state my essential requirements upfront as soon as possible, including "boom boom no condom" but, optimally, only after a face-to-face meeting or a video chat for the improvement in getting that Yes response as outlined in my post you quoted.

My agreeing to take them from a bar, club or off the street is generally contingent on them agreeing upfront and with a clear and unambiguous Yes to what I want in the room such as kissing with our tongues touching, "boom boom no condom", a blowjob with a cum inside mouth finish, whatever.

If no money has been mentioned by either of us, I just invite them over and am then fine with the "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" method. Why not? Then if it turns out she is not going to go with the flow into anything of sexual value to me, I will likely just thank her for her time, say nice meeting you and bye. Sure, if she claims not to have money for a ride back to her room, I'll probably give her 100 baht or so to help, depending on how far we went with the flow before we hit a wall.

How to say kissing with tongue in Thai langue?

I say boom boom may say tung yang for BBFS and CIM in mouth I use duut ham gin nam. But don't know how to say kissing with tongue. They usually don't understand it or pretend so.

[EihTooms]

Good information. Do you directly invite girls to your condo or first meet with them in malls, cafes etc? You offer BBFS when girls come to your condo or outside,at cafe etc ?

In the 2-3 years pre Covid I was mostly an online dating site punter; ThaiFriendly, Tinder and in the earlier years ThaiCupid. About 80% online and 20% go-go bars, occasionally just meet them in restaurants, malls, on bts / mrt trains. I rarely took girls from beer bars. Only once or twice took a massage shop girl in the past 5-6 years.

Of course, during the Covid closures new girls were practically all met online, only sometimes walking around.

Then when beer bars began to reopen a few months ago, it was fun and a relief to get back out there in the world to shop for new girls in person.

There are some exceptions. But, generally, if it is strictly for pay and clearly understood as such from the beginning, I will state my essential requirements upfront as soon as possible, including "boom boom no condom" but, optimally, only after a face-to-face meeting or a video chat for the improvement in getting that Yes response as outlined in my post you quoted.

My agreeing to take them from a bar, club or off the street is generally contingent on them agreeing upfront and with a clear and unambiguous Yes to what I want in the room such as kissing with our tongues touching, "boom boom no condom", a blowjob with a cum inside mouth finish, whatever.

If no money has been mentioned by either of us, I just invite them over and am then fine with the "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" method. Why not? Then if it turns out she is not going to go with the flow into anything of sexual value to me, I will likely just thank her for her time, say nice meeting you and bye. Sure, if she claims not to have money for a ride back to her room, I'll probably give her 100 baht or so to help, depending on how far we went with the flow before we hit a wall.

[Kiev Freak]

Yes, interesting. For me it is at least a 60% or more success rate in getting a "Yes" response to "boom boom no condom, ok mai?" when I ask them directly, upfront and face to face in the bar, the club or on the street before I pay a barfine or take them. Far better than my 20% or so success rate in avoiding a verbal or physical resistance to it in "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" mode. That's why I much prefer the former over the latter.

It kind of goes like this for me; Getting a Yes response is non existent if I am only texting such a question online on TF or Tinder. And it is definitely not possible on an escort site or anything like Fiwfans where a third party, pimp or clerk is actually doing the chatting for the girl or where the girl knows a third party will at some point read the question and her response.

My success rate in getting a Yes improves to at least 30-40% if I have engaged in a video chat with the online girl. It hits the 60%+ level if I am meeting her in person. Same as other venues or options.

And I am mostly only talking about Bangkok. My success rate in getting a Yes response from the girls I approach face to face, live and in person or in "go with the flow" mode in Pattaya is so low I haven't bothered to seriously monger there other than 1-2 tries per day or night over a typical three day visit for years, not even during these supposedly "dire economic" times.

And, bear in mind, I am talking about my success rate in getting a Yes response upfront from the girls I approach or meet before the deal has been closed. Then among those girls my success rate in getting the BBFS+CIP in the room that she agreed to hits at least 80%, much better than the 20% or so I would get if I negotiated nothing upfront.

Good information. Do you directly invite girls to your condo or first meet with them in malls, cafes etc? You offer BBFS when girls come to your condo or outside,at cafe etc ?

[Mr Enternational]

Croc is tasty. It's an Everglades special.

My best friend is from Texas was just preparing to smoke one last week when I was at his restaurant.

[HorseTrader]

Croc is tasty. It's an Everglades special.

The mystery meat I was served from a food cart on Sukhumvit Soi 13 could have been croc, it certainly wasn't the pork as advertised. Very tough, but not a terrible taste. Didn't go back for more.

[Axel Heyst]

With pork price going up in Thailand that may not be pork that you are eating at all, rather crocodile.

Croc is tasty. It's an Everglades special.

[Banana Boi]

With pork price going up in Thailand that may not be pork that you are eating at all, rather crocodile.

[NicFrenchy]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/thailand-...105427449.html

This is to offset the loss of revenue due to covid.

You won't even see it. It will be added to the ticket price.

[Turgid]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/thailand-...105427449.html

This is to offset the loss of revenue due to covid.

[Franciscass]

MSYZYGIES and probably another handle by now.

Not sure about that, otherwise the forum would be cluttered with posts on the horror of fake noses.

[Franciscass]

Questions of that nature clutter the forum, waste bandwidth

Is it not more a waste of bandwidth complaining about somebody wasting bandwidth, even more so this post about somebody complaining about somebody wasting bandwidth.

[Mogwai]

My combined #1 tip for enjoyers of BBFSCIP in Thailand is the following:

1) Freelancers never ask for condoms, at least the younger ones.

2) Never bring up condoms when communicating with them (e. G. On Tinder / Thaifriendly). Only one brought it up out of 12-15 girls. Good thing you have a vasectomy.

Re 1: This is not my experience. When I still had 'going with the flow' as my MO (nowadays I always ask for BBFS beforehand), I think at least 50% of the girls insisted on condoms. Although I agree that this percentage was lower among the younger ones (up to 22/23 yo, approximately).

Re 2: I guess you were just lucky that only one brought it up. Or the girls needed a customer badly.
But as soon as the situation has returned to normal, and punters are flooding Thailand again, the girls will most lilely bring it up more often.

I think having a vasectomy is not important in Thailand, as the majority of the girls take birth control pills. The girls that insist on condoms are usually not scared of getting pregnant, they are only scared of STDs.

[Mogwai]

I remember a time 15 years ago when a Noob to Thailand would come and ask questions only to be told to RTFF (Read The Fucking Forum) and, I never really understood that hostility.
I was once a Noob, and even though back in early 2000 I would devour hundreds of pages of these forums like ISG (BTF, Stickman, BA. All defunct now) but they never seemed to really answer all the questions I had. I always was left with 1 or 2 grey areas that I would have loved cleared.

This was exactly my point when I said that the OP should read dozens of pages first, and then come back to us if he still has specific questions. That is OK.
What is not OK for a noob is to post very general questions, and then expect detailed answers. It undermines the purpose of the forum if all noobs post the same questions over and over again, and get the same answers over and over again.

[HorseTrader]

And, bear in mind, I am talking about my success rate in getting a Yes response upfront from the girls I approach or meet before the deal has been closed. Then among those girls my success rate in getting the BBFS+CIP in the room that she agreed to hits at least 80%, much better than the 20% or so I would get if I negotiated nothing upfront.

My need for BBFSCIP was only for my second pop of the day, but as I age I worry that I may need it all the time. If I get a "yes" on the street or in the bar, I get about 50% unreminded compliance in the room, 30% compliance with reminders, and 20% refusal even when prior agreement was reached. Regarding my first pop of the day, if I struggle it is not uncommon for her to pull off the condom and just continue BB. Requirements for condom goes way down on second and third dates.

Most of my experience is in Bangkok and Samui, and I see no major difference in compliance rates based on location. Perhaps somewhat better compliance in certain corners of Samui where I’m a known face. My experiences in Aonang, Phuket, and Pattaya have been too few to assign compliance percentages based on location.

[EihTooms]

Interesting, in over 5 years living here, and traveling all over Thailand, I find the figure for me much higher, probably around 50%plus.

And most surprisingly, my highest figure by location would be Hua Hin, close to 100% there.

Bangkok and Pattaya would be 70-80%.

Phuket where I have punted by far the most would be lowest, especially in Patong at maybe 25%, but Rawai / Chalong which is my home turf is back at 50% plus.

I am putting my success down to being a "handsome man", being generous and polite in the bar or meet (massage, etc), having a good game plan, and reading likely prospects well..

Yes, interesting. For me it is at least a 60% or more success rate in getting a "Yes" response to "boom boom no condom, ok mai?" when I ask them directly, upfront and face to face in the bar, the club or on the street before I pay a barfine or take them. Far better than my 20% or so success rate in avoiding a verbal or physical resistance to it in "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" mode. That's why I much prefer the former over the latter.

It kind of goes like this for me; Getting a Yes response is non existent if I am only texting such a question online on TF or Tinder. And it is definitely not possible on an escort site or anything like Fiwfans where a third party, pimp or clerk is actually doing the chatting for the girl or where the girl knows a third party will at some point read the question and her response.

My success rate in getting a Yes improves to at least 30-40% if I have engaged in a video chat with the online girl. It hits the 60%+ level if I am meeting her in person. Same as other venues or options.

And I am mostly only talking about Bangkok. My success rate in getting a Yes response from the girls I approach face to face, live and in person or in "go with the flow" mode in Pattaya is so low I haven't bothered to seriously monger there other than 1-2 tries per day or night over a typical three day visit for years, not even during these supposedly "dire economic" times.

And, bear in mind, I am talking about my success rate in getting a Yes response upfront from the girls I approach or meet before the deal has been closed. Then among those girls my success rate in getting the BBFS+CIP in the room that she agreed to hits at least 80%, much better than the 20% or so I would get if I negotiated nothing upfront.