General Reports

[Rodwint2]

And you believe this "friend". This is the dumbest shit that I have ever heard. First of all, most Thai people can just go to a public hospital for 30 baht.

Second, why not just say if your test is negative we will give you 500 baht? They would then stand to earn more by treating all the positive people your friend claims they are missing, than by his dumb explanation of having the negative people pay 5000 baht. I am here. I do not know anybody that has been really sick over the period. And nobody that I know has said that they know somebody that has been really sick. Besides, what good is 5,000 baht going to be to a dead person? These people are over here deathly afraid of catching covid and dying. Funny they are not afraid of having a motorbike accident and dying because they were not wearing a helmet. That has a higher probability than them getting covid.

Third of all, the reason they are starting to make foreigners show up with insurance is because they are putting a strain on the system because they are getting treated when they fall sick, then not able to pay their really expensive bill after a hospital stay of hundreds of thousands and millions of baht. It stands to reason that if a foreigner can get away with this, then certainly a Thai could get away with not paying 5,000 baht for a test.

Considering your lack of real knowledge of the situation that those who reside on a permanent basis and live with normal, every day common people of Thailand, I find your representation that the facts conveyed to me as "dumbest shit" to be rather offensive and rather indicative of your lack of understanding of anything outside of the purchasing cheap sex. I have known my friend for over 40 years and we are both retired executives from financial institutions, so we are not stupid nor state facts that are not true.

What my friend was relating was the fact that the cost of the testing, if not positive, would be prohibitively costly for the normal Thai. The point was the fear of the cost was keeping the number of common Thais being tested very low.

[GettingFedUp]

If anyone wants to get a covid test, any clinic or hospital will do it. If it comes back positive, the patient pays nothing. If it comes back negative, the patient pays 5,000 baht.

Thailand has a set of criteria (such as any one of cough, fever, pneumonia, close contact with known Covid patients) to class people as Patients Under Investigation (PUI). Testing is free for PUI's, whether Thai or Foreign. Since the last identified local transmission of Covid on 25 May approximately 90,000 PUI have been tested (Source: https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/index.php).

Anyone who "wants to get a covid test" (your phrase), as opposed to needs a Covid test, pays (although the charge is waived in the event of a positive). Given the high level of self diagnosis and hypochondria evident in Thailand in normal times (just look at the number of pharmacies, even outside tourist areas) if testing were free for all it would undoubtedly result in a free-for-all which swamped the system, particularly as a negative test is only true for exactly zero hours - you can be infected but the virus load hasn't reached a detectable level yet, as evidenced by the returnees who are negative at the start of quarantine but positive when tested again prior to release from quarantine.

[MonkeyPaw]

It's easy to blame Thailand's lack of testing (which is true) for low numbers of positive cases, but the fact is if there were lot more number of covid patients roaming around un-tested, then their would have been way too many dead bodies to hide. It's Thailand not China, you just can't hide the huge number of dead people from the world.

Fact: Of course the numbers are wrong. I don't expect any government in the whole world to be able to put out the exact numbers of infected, unless 100% of the population is tested. And then there is a possibility of them not telling the truth for whatever reason because, well governments lie all the time, just like you, me, and everybody. This is not an opinion, but a fact.

Opinion: I would say the health of most Asian countries is overall better than most Western countries when it comes to recovery from a case of COVID-19. Meaning, I think there is a good number on Thais who are positive and were told to stay at home and recover on your own inside the home. If you are mildly sick, stay at home. They do not have enough beds to to handle an outbreak in a hospital. Also I think those who have died in their homes maybe been attributed to something else, pneumonia or old age or whatever. They don't have the money to do autopsies on everybody.

So what I'm saying is that most Thais who caught it, are very mild to no symptoms just because they are healthier than in the USA. These are not counted. The ones (Thais) that died at home also "some" not counted. If they were foreign and died at home, which happened, they are counted. So that's why the Thais believe they are a healthy destination. Thailand is not Denmark, Finland, New Zealand when it comes to corruption and government transparency. And those in the rural areas and villages are not the brightest ones to offer dissent. This is still a kingdom, just like the movies.

[Gargano19]

I was informed by my friend who lives in Thailand with his wife and family that there is a reason why there is such a low infection rate reported in Thailand. If anyone wants to get a covid test, any clinic or hospital will do it. If it comes back positive, the patient pays nothing. If it comes back negative, the patient pays 5,000 baht. So anyone with a reasonable mind will not go for testing if they have only minor symptoms which may or may not be the covid virus. Even those with serious symptoms may chose not to be tested. Therefore, with such a disincentive to be tested, the actual number of covid cases in Thailand will never really be known. The only new cases being reported are those who are returning from foreign countries like Korea or Kuwait as they are tested as they get off the planes in Bangkok.

It's easy to blame Thailand's lack of testing (which is true) for low numbers of positive cases, but the fact is if there were lot more number of covid patients roaming around un-tested, then their would have been way too many dead bodies to hide. It's Thailand not China, you just can't hide the huge number of dead people from the world.

[Mr Enternational]

I was informed by my friend who lives in Thailand with his wife and family that there is a reason why there is such a low infection rate reported in Thailand. If anyone wants to get a covid test, any clinic or hospital will do it. If it comes back positive, the patient pays nothing. If it comes back negative, the patient pays 5,000 baht.

And you believe this "friend". This is the dumbest shit that I have ever heard. First of all, most Thai people can just go to a public hospital for 30 baht.

Second, why not just say if your test is negative we will give you 500 baht? They would then stand to earn more by treating all the positive people your friend claims they are missing, than by his dumb explanation of having the negative people pay 5000 baht. I am here. I do not know anybody that has been really sick over the period. And nobody that I know has said that they know somebody that has been really sick. Besides, what good is 5,000 baht going to be to a dead person? These people are over here deathly afraid of catching covid and dying. Funny they are not afraid of having a motorbike accident and dying because they were not wearing a helmet. That has a higher probability than them getting covid.

Third of all, the reason they are starting to make foreigners show up with insurance is because they are putting a strain on the system because they are getting treated when they fall sick, then not able to pay their really expensive bill after a hospital stay of hundreds of thousands and millions of baht. It stands to reason that if a foreigner can get away with this, then certainly a Thai could get away with not paying 5,000 baht for a test.

[Rodwint2]

I was informed by my friend who lives in Thailand with his wife and family that there is a reason why there is such a low infection rate reported in Thailand. If anyone wants to get a covid test, any clinic or hospital will do it. If it comes back positive, the patient pays nothing. If it comes back negative, the patient pays 5,000 baht. So anyone with a reasonable mind will not go for testing if they have only minor symptoms which may or may not be the covid virus. Even those with serious symptoms may chose not to be tested. Therefore, with such a disincentive to be tested, the actual number of covid cases in Thailand will never really be known. The only new cases being reported are those who are returning from foreign countries like Korea or Kuwait as they are tested as they get off the planes in Bangkok.

[Franciscass]

It's an obvious lie. If they multiply that by 1000, I would believe it.

Over 4. 6 million deaths? Gee Smoothy that's a hell of a lot of bodies to get rid of without anybody knowing. How did they manage that. No doubt details are available on some alt-right website.

[Pimpampoumpipo]

All in all, it may be a good idea for the Chinese and the Koreans to go to Thailand first.

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/...en-in-phase-4/

In any case, if it is to see Nana, Soi Cow Boy, soi 6, WS and massages shops closed, I prefer to stay at home.

[Turgid]

Here they come with their fistfuls of cash and bad manners. Did "Red China" cease to exist with the establishment of the special economic zone in Shenzhen? The CCP did not cease to exist. They founded "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics ". Abundance and wealth was always in the psyche. After a myriad of bumps in the road they are once again hitting their stride. The only problem is the US military surrounding them with bases and allied countries.

My biggest beef with Red China is their shutdown of Changping. This used to be my favorite mongering destination and for the years it was in full swing I never visited any other Asian country, not even Thailand. There were so many thousands of beautiful Chinese ladies in barbershops, saunas and KTVs. I hate communism. With that crackdown Chinese men started venturing outside of China to monger especially to South East Asia and Germany.

[Smoothy]

And you seriously believe the numbers reported from Communist China?

It's an obvious lie. If they multiply that by 1000, I would believe it.

[Member #4698]

As Rousseau said: "let's put aside all the facts".

Today the number of deaths worldwide is 397,388 and the number of deaths reported in China is 4,634

And you seriously believe the numbers reported from Communist China?

[Beijing4987]

Here they come with their fistfuls of cash and bad manners. Did "Red China" cease to exist with the establishment of the special economic zone in Shenzhen? The CCP did not cease to exist. They founded "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics ". Abundance and wealth was always in the psyche. After a myriad of bumps in the road they are once again hitting their stride. The only problem is the US military surrounding them with bases and allied countries.

[Pimpampoumpipo]

Red China must be appeased at all costs and they make up 27% of tourists, another 26% from fellow ASEAN countries. Further, these are countries with low levels of Covid so that the risk is lower than Europe or elsewhere. No one should be complaining until they can demonstrate that their country has controlled the virus spread.

As Rousseau said: "let's put aside all the facts".

Today the number of deaths worldwide is 397,388 and the number of deaths reported in China is 4,634 ( approximately 1,16 % of cases). Not bad for a country of 1.3 billion people that has imprisoned the person who alerted the Chinese government to covid-19, whose WHO declared the pandemic alert 5 months later and whose statements no one believes in good faith.

And China will be among the first countries that Thailand will declare as "Countries have' manageable 'Covid-19 situations"?

China has started its grip on Asia. Everyone knows it. The problem for Thailand is that it weakens its credibility with that of China. We will see if his bet serves Thailand or not in the future. Thailand makes her choices.

[Downandup]

Should we understand that Europeans and Americans will be punished ?

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/t...risk-countries

Red China must be appeased at all costs and they make up 27% of tourists, another 26% from fellow ASEAN countries. Further, these are countries with low levels of Covid so that the risk is lower than Europe or elsewhere. No one should be complaining until they can demonstrate that their country has controlled the virus spread.

[Pimpampoumpipo]

Should we understand that Europeans and Americans will be punished ?

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/t...risk-countries