General Reports

[Pimpampoumpipo]

".... As a result, a large meeting has been scheduled with all relevant parties and the CCSA tomorrow, Sunday June 21,2020. This meeting is expected to directly address when and how entertainment venues can re-open. ".

Oh oh so soon we will maybe know: https://thepattayanews.com/2020/06/2...qHkvfQY32nuDXq.

Note that for the moment there are still no tourists in Pattaya (no "customers" to be more precise). It therefore remains possible that if this announcement is confirmed it will converge with the opening (more or less) of the borders.
(invalidated in the event of a new wave of SARS-CoV-2)

[Franciscass]

Interesting article from IATA if you need to adapt your ticket purchasing strategy for your next long distance flights. Today there are relatively inexpensive tickets for BKK (probably from all destinations in the world). I think there is no point in rushing to buy tickets today. Unless you wish to use the possibilities of obtaining a credit or a travel deferral offered by the airlines. On the other hand it can move very quickly and strongly as soon as the countries will announce the "travel bubbles" from July, especially if the entrance conditions are favorable. But it is not sure because people seem very wait-and-see (cf the 2 graphics).

The current context allows to think the borders will soon open. First for certain categories of people in July (business, ....) then for tourists (probably since August). In France (therefore for Schengen I presume) from July 1 there will be a list of around 50 countries whose trips may be authorized as a destination. Thailand could be an eligible country because they have figures which show that they have well mastered the epidemic. Obviously it will be necessary to see what will be the conditions required by Thailand. There will be conditions of reciprocity which will undoubtedly be calibrated on the highest bidder.

Right now Thailand is saying it will not open up to countries where there are relatively high levels of infections. If this remains in force it will be a long time before visitors from most Western countries are allowed in. It will not be possible for these countries to get to a situation where they are infection free for a period of time and will not happen until there is a widely available proven vaccine which means 2021. That's the current mind set but what happens when other countries are opening with less stringent conditions, countries like Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar Malaysia Indonesia. The pressure on the uniforms will then grow to the point where they will have to change. Now the question becomes when will this happens? My own guess for what it's worth is October.

[Downandup]

Dr Olivier in Jomtien.

https://www.dr-olivier-clinic.com/

[Pimpampoumpipo]

Interesting article from IATA if you need to adapt your ticket purchasing strategy for your next long distance flights. Today there are relatively inexpensive tickets for BKK (probably from all destinations in the world). I think there is no point in rushing to buy tickets today. Unless you wish to use the possibilities of obtaining a credit or a travel deferral offered by the airlines. On the other hand it can move very quickly and strongly as soon as the countries will announce the "travel bubbles" from July, especially if the entrance conditions are favorable. But it is not sure because people seem very wait-and-see (cf the 2 graphics).

The current context allows to think the borders will soon open. First for certain categories of people in July (business, ....) then for tourists (probably since August). In France (therefore for Schengen I presume) from July 1 there will be a list of around 50 countries whose trips may be authorized as a destination. Thailand could be an eligible country because they have figures which show that they have well mastered the epidemic. Obviously it will be necessary to see what will be the conditions required by Thailand. There will be conditions of reciprocity which will undoubtedly be calibrated on the highest bidder.

In the article you will also see that the entrance conditions are becoming more precise and that there is a strong demand for homogenization of the processes with more or less rigid options. But we can see the trends (mainly recommendation to quit quarantine, statements of negative to covid or tests for departures and arrivals, masks, social distancing.... and maybe additional like health insurance).

These are just projections. They nevertheless seem to clarify and converge now.

https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...-to-zero-iata/

invalidated in the event of a new wave of covid-19.

Other opinions?

[XXL]

In my case the Dr. said not to expect to notice any effects for about 2 weeks.

Where do you usually purchase your DHEA? Somewhere in Bangkok?

Dr Olivier in Jomtien.

[EihTooms]

My urologist said that increasing levels above about 200-300 makes no improvement in how you feel. I am the same age as you.

I had a brief period of time while starting testosterone that my level got above the normal range, I can say that it turned me into a real SOB. I did some things outside of my normal character and really pissed off some people. Life for me was miserable for the weeks while my testosterone was above about 800. Be very aware of what this stuff does to your mood. It is very powerful.

Let us know how it works out for you.

Yes, I will. Each injection every 3 months, if I do it more than once, requires a blood check first to monitor the level and make sure it is not rising above normal. And from what I read here and elsewhere I probably should give it at least 6 months to see how it goes.

In my case, I don't expect a night vs day difference. I am not suffering from serious hypogonadism symptoms where an effective treatment might produce dramatic results. I still get morning erections, still have plenty of sexual thoughts, can still be sexually active for as long as either me or the girl would want every day. It is only that I get noticeably more pleasure out of it when I skip a day in between now.

Problem is it is getting more difficult than I predicted at this time of my life to maintain that "skip a day in between" plan, a plan that already got broken here and there anyway. Not a bad problem to have, I know. Best case scenario for me is a session every day becomes as desired and pleasurable as my (intended) every other day schedule is now.

[Franciscass]

My urologist said that increasing levels above about 200-300 makes no improvement in how you feel. I am the same age as you.

I had a brief period of time while starting testosterone that my level got above the normal range, I can say that it turned me into a real SOB. I did some things outside of my normal character and really pissed off some people. Life for me was miserable for the weeks while my testosterone was above about 800. Be very aware of what this stuff does to your mood. It is very powerful.

Let us know how it works out for you.

Another item to add to the conversation on maintaining libido is Ginseng. Been taking it since the first signs of decline in my mid 50's and while difficult to associate its effectiveness with horniness and performance I do feel it's been influential in keeping me in the saddle. I take 400 MG daily of the KGC red ginseng extract. There are cheaper alternatives but this is regarded by most people as the gold the standard.

[Turgid]

Does that include polio, smallpox, yellow fever, measles. ?

How about rinderpest -- opposed to that?

I actually got those when I had no say in the matter. Nevertheless, today I suspect people in authority of being quite nefarious.

[HorseTrader]

My testosterone nanograms per decilitre (ng/dl) level is 590.77 with normal levels for age 50+ being in the 193 - 740 range. The Dr. said this treatment would likely take it to 700.

My urologist said that increasing levels above about 200-300 makes no improvement in how you feel. I am the same age as you.

I had a brief period of time while starting testosterone that my level got above the normal range, I can say that it turned me into a real SOB. I did some things outside of my normal character and really pissed off some people. Life for me was miserable for the weeks while my testosterone was above about 800. Be very aware of what this stuff does to your mood. It is very powerful.

Let us know how it works out for you.

[John Clayton]

...I have a natural disinclination to vaccines which is my reason for the question...

Does that include polio, smallpox, yellow fever, measles. ?

How about rinderpest -- opposed to that?

[Turgid]

Interesting, but it should be noted that the Brazil flu vaccination season is April to June. I chose Brazil "off the cuff" without research. It's a large number of years since I was there. My bad.

However, my point about the difference between correlation and causality stands. The internal combustion engine (or hybrids or EV's) do not cause increased morbidity (although people using them may cause increased spread when they step out of the car). Nor do 5 G telephone masts.

Your point about the distinction between correlation and causation is well taken. Scientific research is necessary to prove causation. I have a natural disinclination to vaccines which is my reason for the question. It may very well be that in the not too distant future we would all be required to take the anti-covid 19 vaccine for international travel, I anticipate such a requirement with great trepidation.

[EihTooms]

Good advice, but it's not a 1. 5 hour effect like sildenifil (in case anyone was silly enough to think this).

It needs to be taken steadily over an extended period. I have been taking 1 capsule of 50 MG DHEA every day for the past 2 years but I have no idea whether it is "working" other than to say that I am still active at least once per day at age 70+.

No way that its effects can be measured since variables are impossible to control. I also take a number of vitamin supplements along with a daily Zinc tablet too so that might work synergistically or even antagonistically. Who knows?
I guess I could have had a testosterone bench mark test before I started but it's too late now to know if DHEA has any direct effect.

In my case the Dr. said not to expect to notice any effects for about 2 weeks.

Where do you usually purchase your DHEA? Somewhere in Bangkok?

[Red Kilt]

One piece of advice for those contemplating TRT. Give DHEA a try first. It can be taken orally, nothing like the life-long slavery of injecting. DHEA is relatively harmless.

Good advice, but it's not a 1. 5 hour effect like sildenifil (in case anyone was silly enough to think this).

It needs to be taken steadily over an extended period. I have been taking 1 capsule of 50 MG DHEA every day for the past 2 years but I have no idea whether it is "working" other than to say that I am still active at least once per day at age 70+.

No way that its effects can be measured since variables are impossible to control. I also take a number of vitamin supplements along with a daily Zinc tablet too so that might work synergistically or even antagonistically. Who knows?
I guess I could have had a testosterone bench mark test before I started but it's too late now to know if DHEA has any direct effect.

[EihTooms]

So if you have your testosterone levels checked, and they are normal for your age; then I wouldn't bother doing any Testosterone therapy. But if it's low, then you could probably benefit quit a bit. I just don't think you will be able to quit once you start. Your libido would crash if you stopped taking it. It's just something to think about before you jump into it. I'm sure the doctor will tell you the same thing.

No, the Dr. didn't tell me my libido would crash if I stopped. And I have not seen that to be a red flag warning side effect of this treatment in my research on it.

Of course, if I don't find myself clawing at the earth with hornyness to fuck every day instead of every other day by the end of this first 3 month trial I won't bother to continue.

My testosterone nanograms per decilitre (ng/dl) level is 590.77 with normal levels for age 50+ being in the 193 - 740 range. The Dr. said this treatment would likely take it to 700.

It is a single injection of 1000 mg/4 ml solution of Nebido, Bayer brand. That single injection in the butt supposedly lasts 3 months.

[XXL]

So if you have your testosterone levels checked, and they are normal for your age; then I wouldn't bother doing any Testosterone therapy. But if it's low, then you could probably benefit quit a bit. I just don't think you will be able to quit once you start. Your libido would crash if you stopped taking it. It's just something to think about before you jump into it. I'm sure the doctor will tell you the same thing.

One piece of advice for those contemplating TRT. Give DHEA a try first. It can be taken orally, nothing like the life-long slavery of injecting. DHEA is relatively harmless.

With TRT there's the unsolved issue of balls (and penis?) shrinking on top of all other issues. Those testosterone male super models look good to women until women see them naked. I'm in no hurry to jump on that wagon.

Mesterolone (Proviron) is non-anabolic and libido-enhancing. Difficult to source in any country from what I've heard. I'd look into it before going for TRT if sex-drive is the issue and not building muscles. Mesterolone boosts dehydrotestosterone (DHT), not testosterone. Testosterone is the muscle-building hormone while DHT is the sex-drive (and balding!) hormone.