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  1. #13886

    No, I wouldn't say that.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    It seems that you are saying ladies that do BBFSCIP for 1000 baht are ugly. I would stand on the other side of the argument and posit that a person should not even have to go down a list of things they want when they are paying 5,000 baht and up. The girls already know it is a high amount and are willing to do anything for that amount, so there does not even have to be a discussion. The fellow must be absolutely repugnant if he should need to clarify things to an extent when paying so much money.

    On the other hand, a chick someone is paying 1,000 baht to would more likely say it is only 1,000 and I am not doing all that shit for that measly sum. But they do do it. And accoding to you they only do it if they are ugly and pretty girls only do it if you pay 5,000 baht and make it clear that is what you want?

    So what about free chicks? Do they only BBCIP because they are so ugly that they can not get anyone to pay them at all?
    No, not at all. I have had many freebie BBFS+CIP sessions with way above average looking girls in Bangkok and elsewhere. Many for only 1,000 baht or so per session. And quite recently.

    If I read your previous post as narrowly as that, it seems you are saying there are no girls in Bangkok who will do a session for as little as 1,000 baht. But you and I know that isn't true at all. Despite what one girl said to you three years ago, you know very well on that day as well as this very day you can get a woman in Bangkok to immediately agree to a session for 1,000 baht and then agree without hesitation to BBFS+CIP either upfront or, if you said nothing about it upfront, it would just happen in the bed, right? Same as in Pattaya. Currency conversion aside, same as in any city, state, country and continent of the world.

    It's the "above average looks" part of it one might have to forego if they are a bit pressed for time, that's all.

    What I described previously was, imo, a perfectly viable method for achieving an unbroken record of success, day after day, any time of the year, in getting P4 P girls in Bangkok, Pattaya or anywhere else in Thailand or, for that matter, down the street from wherever one is sitting right now, to quickly agree to 1,000 Baht (or equivalent) for a ST or perhaps even LT no matter what their opening quote is and to go along with BBFS+CIP in the bed without uttering a word of discussion about it.

    If that achievement is all there is to one's goal, of course. It isn't as though one can completely disregard the element of attractiveness and go for and respond to only the hottest girls in the room, on the block or on ThaiFriendly. That is a sure fire recipe for getting tons of refusals and lots and lots of discussion and lectures about No Condom, No Sex in the bed, likely ending with the girl fully dressed and walking out after you and her had no sex at all, wouldn't you say?

    Yes, for starters, to achieve such an unbroken daily record of success in the way described one might primarily deal with ladies who look like they would be lucky to get 300 baht from a man for their time. There are thousands of them out there on the street, on ThaiFriendly, in the massage shops, in beer bars, even in gogo bars, etc. The rest of it will pretty much fall in place after that. But that doesn't preclude the occasional lightning strike where the girl does happen to qualify as "above average looks" in some men's eyes, is falling down drunk at 4 am or passes out in the bed and therefore will not balk about or refuse anything and so on. If one is on the hunt and makes themselves open and available to anything at anytime just about everything can and will occur in Thailand eventually.

  2. #13885
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Of course, it is always possible for any man reading this forum to be with ladies who agree to 1,000 baht for ST or 1,500 baht for LT and always go along with BBFS+CIP in the room without discussion. Actually, any of us can get that same kind of deal just about anywhere in the world with every lady we are with as long as we are willing to play it right.

    I won't presume to answer for anybody else. But if my goal was to only pay 1,000 - 1,500 baht and never be refused BBFS+CIP, the solution is simple; initially, I would only screen and connect with ladies who look like they would be lucky to get paid as much as 300 baht for ST.
    It seems that you are saying ladies that do BBFSCIP for 1000 baht are ugly. I would stand on the other side of the argument and posit that a person should not even have to go down a list of things they want when they are paying 5,000 baht and up. The girls already know it is a high amount and are willing to do anything for that amount, so there does not even have to be a discussion. The fellow must be absolutely repugnant if he should need to clarify things to an extent when paying so much money.

    On the other hand, a chick someone is paying 1,000 baht to would more likely say it is only 1,000 and I am not doing all that shit for that measly sum. But they do do it. And accoding to you they only do it if they are ugly and pretty girls only do it if you pay 5,000 baht and make it clear that is what you want?

    So what about free chicks? Do they only BBCIP because they are so ugly that they can not get anyone to pay them at all?

  3. #13884
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Of course, it is always possible for any man reading this forum to be with ladies who agree to 1,000 baht for ST or 1,500 baht for LT and always go along with BBFS+CIP in the room without discussion. Actually, any of us can get that same kind of deal just about anywhere in the world with every lady we are with as long as we are willing to play it right.

    I won't presume to answer for anybody else. But if my goal was to only pay 1,000 - 1,500 baht and never be refused BBFS+CIP, the solution is simple; initially, I would only screen and connect with ladies who look like they would be lucky to get paid as much as 300 baht for ST. In many cases those are the ones who come on strongest on ThaiFriendly or at the massage shops anyway.

    Then, no matter what their opening quote is, even if it is 5,000 baht just to see how crazy I really am for having given them any attention at all, I would counter with 1,000 baht.

    Bingo. My initial screening process practically guarantees she will quickly agree to 1,000 baht, probably even for LT, and that there is no way she's going to mess up that sweet deal by so much as uttering a negative grunt about me going for BBFS+CIP in the bed.

    I could easily have been with thousands of ladies in Bangkok and Pattaya and never paid more than 1,000 baht for no discussion BBFS+CIP if only I had applied that same initial screening and connecting process to it. And so could you and anyone else reading this forum.
    Cliff notes version.

    You want pay 1,000 you got to go Mugly.

  4. #13883
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I could easily have been with thousands of ladies in Bangkok and Pattaya and never paid more than 1,000 baht for no discussion BBFS+CIP if only I had applied that same initial screening and connecting process to it. And so could you and anyone else reading this forum.
    About 2 weeks ago I asked a freelancer about BBFSCIP and she immediately said "up to you." She then explained that she used a medication so it was OK. I questioned what medication and she showed it to me and then online. It was one of the PrEP medications. She didn't seem worried about other infections or pregnancy, she worried only about HIV.

    As PrEP becomes more popular, I expect BB will become more accepted.

    This particular lady was not a hottie, but she was well better than average for a Sukhumvit freelancer.

  5. #13882

    It all depends on the girls you screen and connect with

    Quote Originally Posted by NewImage  [View Original Post]
    So this applies to Bangkok too? TF for 1000/1500? I thought the asking price was more like 2500/3000? So if they ask this I should negotiate down to 1000/1500?
    Of course, it is always possible for any man reading this forum to be with ladies who agree to 1,000 baht for ST or 1,500 baht for LT and always go along with BBFS+CIP in the room without discussion. Actually, any of us can get that same kind of deal just about anywhere in the world with every lady we are with as long as we are willing to play it right.

    I won't presume to answer for anybody else. But if my goal was to only pay 1,000 - 1,500 baht and never be refused BBFS+CIP, the solution is simple; initially, I would only screen and connect with ladies who look like they would be lucky to get paid as much as 300 baht for ST. In many cases those are the ones who come on strongest on ThaiFriendly or at the massage shops anyway.

    Then, no matter what their opening quote is, even if it is 5,000 baht just to see how crazy I really am for having given them any attention at all, I would counter with 1,000 baht.

    Bingo. My initial screening process practically guarantees she will quickly agree to 1,000 baht, probably even for LT, and that there is no way she's going to mess up that sweet deal by so much as uttering a negative grunt about me going for BBFS+CIP in the bed.

    I could easily have been with thousands of ladies in Bangkok and Pattaya and never paid more than 1,000 baht for no discussion BBFS+CIP if only I had applied that same initial screening and connecting process to it. And so could you and anyone else reading this forum.

  6. #13881
    Quote Originally Posted by EverythingThai  [View Original Post]
    Makes no sense. The legal closing time was 2 am before the new law, now you are saying some need to close at midnight. I am sorry but you must be confused.
    Not confused about that night's closure of a large group of bars. A bar girl called me moments after police closed the bars and she showed me that all the bars in the immediate area were closed. A few minutes later I looked at a YouTube live feed and the bars in an area 500 meters away were also closed. The next night those same bars were open until 0400. The bar girls never learned why they got closed early that night, perhaps unrelated to the linked article. Perhaps related to tea money or foreign workers or underage girls.

    I checked with a Nana go go girl that same night and she said they didn't get closed that night.

  7. #13880
    Quote Originally Posted by NewImage  [View Original Post]
    So this applies to Bangkok too? TF for 1000/1500? I thought the asking price was more like 2500/3000? So if they ask this I should negotiate down to 1000/1500?
    Hell no! Bangkok has changed. Last time I was there years ago and tried the 1000, the chick told me this is Bangkok not Pattaya! So I guess she knew that was the price in Pattaya. I had always been able to get 1000 before that though.

  8. #13879
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    According to this article, customers will need to get mobile app "ThaiD" and bars need to install facial recognition security cameras to record all patrons.

    https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...-opening-rules

    I know of many bars that the police closed down at midnight. Live streaming videos showed them empty by 00:45 this morning.
    Makes no sense. The legal closing time was 2 am before the new law, now you are saying some need to close at midnight. I am sorry but you must be confused.

  9. #13878
    Quote Originally Posted by NewImage  [View Original Post]
    So this applies to Bangkok too? TF for 1000/1500? I thought the asking price was more like 2500/3000? So if they ask this I should negotiate down to 1000/1500?
    For Bangkok, the prices you have 2500/3000 are correct. The 100/1500 is for Pattaya.

  10. #13877

    Even in Bangkok?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I always say I do not like massage, only boom boom. 1000 baht is the "real" price, as shown by the second chick. I do not know whether you asked for BBFSCIP, but for me it has always been the norm without even asking or desiring such. It just happens that way.
    So this applies to Bangkok too? TF for 1000/1500? I thought the asking price was more like 2500/3000? So if they ask this I should negotiate down to 1000/1500?

  11. #13876
    Quote Originally Posted by BeachDrone  [View Original Post]
    My first experience with Thai Friendly. Within 30 minutes of opening my account, I had about 6 or 7 suggesting they come to my room for massage. An hour after opening the account, I was fucking a very sexy 45-year-old lady at her massage shop where she works by herself. A very hot time, massage, BBBJ, DATY, BBFSCIP, all for 1500 baht! Walking back to my guest house, I got a video Line call from another lady 44-year-old, and went to her room for another fun session. She pretty clearly only does this occasionally for fun, and only asked 1000 baht.
    I always say I do not like massage, only boom boom. 1000 baht is the "real" price, as shown by the second chick. I do not know whether you asked for BBFSCIP, but for me it has always been the norm without even asking or desiring such. It just happens that way.

  12. #13875

    Experience with Thai Friendly

    My first experience with Thai Friendly. Your mileage may vary.

    I'm in Chiang Mai and just for something different, decided to try Thai Friendly. Created account, uploaded a couple pictures, clearly stated in my profile that I'm only looking for short-term dating, not a long-term relationship, and only in Chiang Mai. Being in my late 60's and not relating as well with ladies in their 20's, I specified that I'm looking for ladies 36-59. Within a few minutes I was getting "likes" and messages, some from younger ladies. Almost all ask for a Line ID so they can discuss anything outside the Thai Friendly rules.

    I have been to Chiang Mai every winter for 12 years (except one due to the pandemic) and stay at a guest house run by a family I have come to know well. I cannot bring ladies to my room.

    Within 30 minutes of opening my account, I had about 6 or 7 suggesting they come to my room for massage. Clearly suggesting more. An hour after opening the account, I was fucking a very sexy 45-year-old lady at her massage shop where she works by herself. A very hot time, massage, BBBJ, DATY, BBFSCIP, all for 1500 baht! Walking back to my guest house, I got a video Line call from another lady 44-year-old, and went to her room for another fun session. She pretty clearly only does this occasionally for fun, and only asked 1000 baht. And it was BBBJ, DATY, BBFSCIP, everything. Two very fun sessions in two hours. Took a break for dinner. Will go back to Thai Friendly tomorrow.

  13. #13874
    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio  [View Original Post]
    Again this is for people with no experience doing visa extension. Everything is much the same. It took a little over 2 hours from start to finish to get a 1 month visa extensions in Phuket. The cost for the extension was the same 1900 thai baht. I did not need a departure ticket. I did not need the note from my hotel that I thought I would, though I needed the address. I needed a passport photo and a copy of the front page of my passport and a copy of the page stamped with my last entry. And of course my passport. You can get the passport photo and copies made at the immigration office.

    I asked the guy that does the information desk about doing a visa run when this extension runs s out. He said it depends on the particular immigration officer I get when I return. He said it better to stay out of country a week then just a day. He was just giving advice not definitive facts.

    All in all getting a visa extension is easy. Hope this helps anyone who might want to know how it works.
    A 30 day extension is quite easy, so long as where you are staying has registered you.

    If you are staying in a cheap hotel / accommodation that might have been lazy registering you, or staying with friends, it can be way more problematic.

  14. #13873

    Update on visa extension for 2023

    Again this is for people with no experience doing visa extension. Everything is much the same. It took a little over 2 hours from start to finish to get a 1 month visa extensions in Phuket. The cost for the extension was the same 1900 thai baht. I did not need a departure ticket. I did not need the note from my hotel that I thought I would, though I needed the address. I needed a passport photo and a copy of the front page of my passport and a copy of the page stamped with my last entry. And of course my passport. You can get the passport photo and copies made at the immigration office.

    I asked the guy that does the information desk about doing a visa run when this extension runs s out. He said it depends on the particular immigration officer I get when I return. He said it better to stay out of country a week then just a day. He was just giving advice not definitive facts.

    All in all getting a visa extension is easy. Hope this helps anyone who might want to know how it works.

    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio  [View Original Post]
    This is for those with no experiece. I needed to extend my visa. I have been here almost 1 month and did not get the visa extension at the airport. I am an American. I went to the immigration office at Phuket Town. It was the closest to me. All I had to do was fill out form, show passport, make a couple of copies of different pages of passport, get a passport photo and pay. The people at the immigration office were friendly and helpful. The process was quick.

    Some things you will need are a pen, address of where you are staying, departure ticket and I think that was it. I didn't have departure ticket and it was not a problem at all. It cost me 1900 baht, plus 126 baht for photo and copies.

    I hope this helps anyone with worries. It was all in all quick and easy.

  15. #13872

    Renting a motorbike, my experience

    Renting a motorbike costs 3000 thb a month. I paid a 3000 thb deposit but could have left my passport with them instead. Never give up your passport. I rented a cheaper bike for 2500 thb but returned it after a few days because it had no place to hold stuff except under the seat. No cup holder or hook or basket. This mattered because I needed a place for my phone (to use map).

    I went to AAA in USA before I left and got an international driver's license for I think $20. Thailand has periodic road blocks where they checkk for drivers license. I think the penalty is 1000 thb if you don't have. (I don't know this, check elsewhere for facts). I was stopped at one today and the AAA license was accepted and no fine. Though I've heard that is not always the case.

    I would not recommend anyone rent a motorbike in thailand if they do not have experience with one. They are very easy to drive but traffic is often terrible. I would not rent one in Bangkok or Pattaya. Other better transportation is there. I rent one in phuket because I am well away from touristy stuff and haven't seen a motorbike taxi since I've been here.

    Motorbikes split lanes here and always go to the front of the line at traffic lights. You will most likely be doing some riding on the shoulder. Traffic drives on the other side of the street from usa. This was easier to get used to then I anticipated. That said you will encounter lots of bikes going the wrong direction on a road. This kind of throws me off. Motor bikes are a lot of fun to drive. Do not get a large motorcycle just for town. They are ridiculous for in town and probably way less enjoyable to boot.

    I have a fat head and I've never been able to get a helmet that fits me. Take lots of video of your motor bike when you first rent it. A video once helped me when they wanted to charge me for a big scratch. The video showed it was there when I rented. 100 thb in gas filled my tank.

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