General Reports

[LA Guy 5]

Been here 16 years and the longer I am here the happier I am that I never bought a condo. Most condos have stagnated or lost value. What has appreciated during my tenure here is agricultural land and of course foreigners are shut out of that market. Buying ag land anywhere is a pretty safe investment.

In addition to everything else, there is just too much political uncertainty in Thailand for a foreigner to invest in a condo. Unless, of course, someone is stinking rich and doesn't really care if he loses the money but is more interested in just having a place to stay; in other words isn't really investing for a return on capital.

[Goatscrot]

I know, Mr. E. !

But someone has been putting ideas in his head that will need some professional advice to put right again. I guess we can all imagine where these ideas are originating from.

W.

Been here 16 years and the longer I am here the happier I am that I never bought a condo. Most condos have stagnated or lost value. What has appreciated during my tenure here is agricultural land and of course foreigners are shut out of that market. Buying ag land anywhere is a pretty safe investment.

[Naked Gunz]

By real estate he means condos? Because that is all a foreigner can own around here. If he does you better tell him again what a dumb idea it is.

I came within a signature of spending 5 million on a Pratumnak Hill condo. Glad I didn't now. The place is 1 million cheaper now since the $ got so strong. I wonder what will happen in the country when the king pass away?

[Wolvenvacht]

By real estate he means condos? Because that is all a foreigner can own around here. If he does you better tell him again what a dumb idea it is.

I know, Mr. E. !

But someone has been putting ideas in his head that will need some professional advice to put right again. I guess we can all imagine where these ideas are originating from.

W.

[The Cane]

By real estate he means condos? Because that is all a foreigner can own around here.

Yeah, I watched this program on TV a few times where couples who are in the home buying market are presented with three choices, and then by the end of the 30 minute show they pick one. Twice, homes in Thailand were featured, and I don't mean condos either. I was thinking like WTF? Foreigners can't own an estate like that! I knew better, and then I was just reading something the other day that pointed out how that show was fake on many counts (including the fact that the couples' decision was always made before their actual show aired and they were reenacting what happened). I also noticed that the homes in Thailand that were presented were never the ones chosen. Yeah. I wonder why? Maybe because it's a bullshit fake show where the Thai homes presented could never be purchased by the couples in the first place! We know that, but how many other eyeballs viewing the show do? They have no clue. I guess the show's producers figure what the audience doesn't know won't hurt it!

[Mr Enternational]

Does anyone know a lawfirm in Thailand that could provide some legal info on buying / owning / investing into Thai real estate?

By real estate he means condos? Because that is all a foreigner can own around here. If he does you better tell him again what a dumb idea it is.

[Wolvenvacht]

Guys,

Does anyone know a lawfirm in Thailand that could provide some legal info on buying / owning / investing into Thai real estate?

And please, don't tell me that it is a bad idea. I know that. A friend asked me some info and I could not convince him of the unsoundness of his ideas, so perhaps if he asks a lawyer he might get back his senses.

Wolvenvacht.

[Wolvenvacht]

What you said, and them trying to spend a guy's money without asking.

That's messed up. Her loss!

(snip)

You gave her very mixed up signals. No wonder she got upset. You agreed to meet her at her sister's kebab stand. For her that included automatically spending some time there with you. No doubt she was proud to show her new farang BF to her family.

And then she gave you the opportunity to spend some little money on drinks and gain serious stature in her environment. Her sister's husband did the same: offer you, a total stranger, some drinks and some "quality time". Any Thai would have gracefully accepted that and improved the relationship. Your reaction was very "Western": why should I spend money on total strangers? Most Thai would jump at the opportunity to show their largesse.

Of course your mind was on a different track. It is not always easy to reconcile different cultural expectations. Although you made it quite clear what you wanted to do, sometimes through no fault of our own the message does not register.

[Wolvenvacht]

I don't really "date" here. For me it's about sex and having to w*mance does not appeal to me. A good friend once said, "guys don't come to Thailand to f* P4 P gals they come here to date P4 P girls. " That is true for so many gals. Never has been of interest to me. I want to pick them, have them perform, pay them, and get the hell out of there.

To each his own. I like both to date and get some P4 P fun too. Fortunately my present GF is quite cool with that. When she's not wth me, I'm free and now and then asks what I have been doing when she's not around. She even went with me to Soi Cowboy to see the clubs where I get my agogo girls. Suzi Wong got her mark of approval, but Baccara did not appeal to her.

[Blanquiceleste]

But with meals being very cheap, it may be a good investment.

I have been in that situation before and by being "jai dee" and talking with both, the gay friend seems to have given me his blessing after which the girl said goodbye to her friend and went with me and we had good fun.

In Thailand I tend to go with the flow and most of the time that turns out quite nice.

I second this opinion. The exact same incident has happened with me and I allowed the girl to bring along her gay friend. We had a couple of drinks and some finger foods. The gay friend turned out to be a Muay Thai masseur (imagine the job satisfaction he gets) and was quite entertaining in his own way. But after the meal he spoke to my girl and told her to have a real good time. Turned out to be one the truly epic chicks I bedded in Thailand.

[Goatscrot]

You and I are here for an extended period of time. So we have a different perspective than most. However, for me, I am always on the look out for 'regular girls' when I am out and about. I have the time to meet them and go out for a drink. Nothing wrong with talking to a lady over a drink. I met girls all over the place with some good success. Of course there were a lot who gave numbers and contact info that never panned out too. But a good number worked out quite nice.

If I did not have a GF then I might be a bit more amenable.

[Pipe Layer99]

I don't really "date" here. For me it's about sex and having to w*mance does not appeal to me. A good friend once said, "guys don't come to Thailand to f* P4 P gals they come here to date P4 P girls. " That is true for so many gals. Never has been of interest to me. I want to pick them, have them perform, pay them, and get the hell out of there.

You and I are here for an extended period of time. So we have a different perspective than most. However, for me, I am always on the look out for 'regular girls' when I am out and about. I have the time to meet them and go out for a drink. Nothing wrong with talking to a lady over a drink. I met girls all over the place with some good success. Of course there were a lot who gave numbers and contact info that never panned out too. But a good number worked out quite nice.

[HotShaneHot]

What you said, and them trying to spend a guy's money without asking.

That's messed up. Her loss!

I had a wechat girl coming to see me in Pattaya from 40 minutes away. We had sent messages over a few days. Turns out she works in a small town nearby but comes every now and then to visit (yeah right. That means she is a part-time hooker). I told her when she comes to Pattaya again, we can go out for a few drinks. A few days later, she clams she was coming to visit her sister who sells kebobs and that I can meet her when she arrives. OK. We can meet there and then we will go to a bar for to drink so we can get to know each other better. I made it clear that we will only meet there and then I will take her to a bar. She agreed. Then she starts asking me to go there and wait for her to arrive. I'm thinking no thanks. I don't need to stand there while she talks to her sister and. I said I need a shower and shave and I will come after soon after you arrive. She asks Why? I told her, you can arrive first and talk to her sister for 10 minutes or so. Then when I show up, I can say Hello, and we can leave. She arrives and I tell her ok I am on the way, 10 minutes. I get there and say Hello, to everyone. The sister and her husband seem very nice. They each have a drink open. The man offers me a drink but its a white wine cooler. I tell him thanks but I will wait because we are going to leave and go drink beer at a bar. This also reminds the girl that we are leaving soon. I told him I just came to pick up the girl. Now he wants to be nice and offers to go get me a beer. I said it was ok but WE are leaving soon, so I can wait. No problem. Now the girl wants to go to the store to get drinks. I said ok we can have 1 and then we will go to the bar. Keep in mind, the sister and husband selling kebobs have multiple bottles of wine drinks in a cooler right there already. So I am going to the store with this chick to get 1 beer for me and 1 drink for her. I grab a beer and she grabs a wine drink. Then she grabs 2 more wine drinks...

Yes that's Thai girls 100%.

I am not in to that shit too.

And as for the member that was pay 4,000 Bart long time.

I only been pay 4,000 Bart for 2 days and 2 night's and 14 root's later + 30 photos.

I am going to Pattaya next week hope I can still get for 1,000/1,500?

[Goatscrot]

But with meals being very cheap, it may be a good investment.

I have been in that situation before and by being "jai dee" and talking with both, the gay friend seems to have given me his blessing after which the girl said goodbye to her friend and went with me and we had good fun.

In Thailand I tend to go with the flow and most of the time that turns out quite nice.

I don't really "date" here. For me it's about sex and having to w*mance does not appeal to me. A good friend once said, "guys don't come to Thailand to f* P4 P gals they come here to date P4 P girls. " That is true for so many gals. Never has been of interest to me. I want to pick them, have them perform, pay them, and get the hell out of there.

[Pipe Layer99]

What is up with chicks wanting to bring their gay friend on a date with you? This is the second time that has happened to me. Chick is going to cancel the date and go do something else without saying anything and tell me because I am not open minded. What would seriously make them think that having a gay dude tag along would be acceptable? Better yet, what would even make the gay dude want to come? Who would fuck up their own action like that? Either take me AND gay guy or take nothing at all. We come as a package deal.

What you said, and them trying to spend a guy's money without asking.

That's messed up. Her loss!

I had a wechat girl coming to see me in Pattaya from 40 minutes away. We had sent messages over a few days. Turns out she works in a small town nearby but comes every now and then to visit (yeah right. That means she is a part-time hooker). I told her when she comes to Pattaya again, we can go out for a few drinks. A few days later, she clams she was coming to visit her sister who sells kebobs and that I can meet her when she arrives. OK. We can meet there and then we will go to a bar for to drink so we can get to know each other better. I made it clear that we will only meet there and then I will take her to a bar. She agreed. Then she starts asking me to go there and wait for her to arrive. I'm thinking no thanks. I don't need to stand there while she talks to her sister and. I said I need a shower and shave and I will come after soon after you arrive. She asks Why? I told her, you can arrive first and talk to her sister for 10 minutes or so. Then when I show up, I can say Hello, and we can leave. She arrives and I tell her ok I am on the way, 10 minutes. I get there and say Hello, to everyone. The sister and her husband seem very nice. They each have a drink open. The man offers me a drink but its a white wine cooler. I tell him thanks but I will wait because we are going to leave and go drink beer at a bar. This also reminds the girl that we are leaving soon. I told him I just came to pick up the girl. Now he wants to be nice and offers to go get me a beer. I said it was ok but WE are leaving soon, so I can wait. No problem. Now the girl wants to go to the store to get drinks. I said ok we can have 1 and then we will go to the bar. Keep in mind, the sister and husband selling kebobs have multiple bottles of wine drinks in a cooler right there already. So I am going to the store with this chick to get 1 beer for me and 1 drink for her. I grab a beer and she grabs a wine drink. Then she grabs 2 more wine drinks. I'm thinking ok she wants 2 more for the sister and husband. No sweat its only 35 or 40 baht each. Plus the husband offered me a drink earlier. Then she says wait and she goes to grab 2 more beers. I ask, what is all that for we are only staying for 1 drink and then you and me are leaving. She says it for the security guy outside and for a motorbike taxi guy near the kebob stand. Not on my dime. I tell her, I can only buy a drink for us, not everyone. We get to the counter, I separate the drinks so I can only pay for what I want excluding the 2 other guys I have note even seen. This dumb ass chick wanted me to pay for 6 drinks. I told her no. I said we can have 1 drink here and then we are leaving. I'm not paying for some guys drinks. You can buy the other guys drinks if you want. She says she doesn't have any money on her and has to walk right outside to her car to get some baht. She comes back and in a pissy way pays for everything. Fine by me. Walk to the stand and she goes to give away the 2 beers then returns and adds the other drinks to what's already available. Now she starts to tell me IF I want to be with her I have to care for her friends. I reminded her that I came to meet HER and that I need to know you first. And we agreed to go drink at a bar. I said I agreed to come pick you up so we can go to a bar (not sit here outside for half an hour). She is under the impression taht we are going sit there at a hot ass kebob stand and keep her sister company. And she has the nerve to act like I should buy drinks for everyone that she wants. I smashed all of that crap. I told her flat out no. I asked her just to be clear, you think I should buy those other Thai guys beers? She said yes, they are her friends. Like I give a shit. I told her I'm on vacation (over 6 months already but she doesn't need to now that). I came to meet you and take YOU to a bar. This dumb ass thought I was going sit outside in the heat, right near a hot ass kebob stand, AND what's worse, she mistakenly thought it was ok to try to spend my money on HER so-called friends. She acted like she couldn't understand. But I made she sure she knew my point before I go up and left her sitting there. I said good bye to the other 2. The sister asked what's wrong, where you go? I told her that her sister wants me to buy drinks for everyone and those other 2 Thai guys also. I said that's not ok. She understood right away and I can tell by the look on her face that she agreed with me. We said goodbye and I left. That was a complete waste of 15 minutes.