General Reports

[FKKguide]

Find this hard to believe. Can you expand? The public bus is more than 100bht nowadays.

Cheers

This is not the ferang sucker penalty and prices vary, also can be negotiated. Bang Pli is >1/3 the way to Patty. You might get an even cheaper fare on the rattly old public "rot-maes" w/o a/c that go all the way BKK to Jomtien Bch with many stops. It can be fun to mingle with the locals (many working girls).

[SidTheSexist]

BTW: There are a/c VIP buses running BKK-Patty on the nearby Bangna-Trat expressway like every 15-30 minutes and cost about 50 THB.

Find this hard to believe. Can you expand? The public bus is more than 100bht nowadays.
cheers

[Asian John]

I've had an interesting couple of experiences I'd like to share and get some feedback. Twice in the last 2 months or so, I've encountered a RED condom at 2 different establishments in Chiang Mai. My sexy provider supplied a strawberry condom that I thought was kind of cool. At first. We started the deed, then as I withdrew my dick to slap it around some on her pussy, I noticed my hand was stained a bit red. Yup, she was on her period! The first time, I thought this was a one-time "woops" by my provider. However, yesterday, it happened again. She happened to supply me with another RED condom. She sat on me for awhile, then as I rotated up on top of her, I pulled out for a sec. Then as I reinserted myself, I noticed some red on my hand. Once again, she was on her period. It kind of freaks me out to see the blood for obvious reasons. I immediately got up and washed up. The girl was very apologetic, but then the RED condom has my suspicions.

Here's my suspicion -- Either they know they are very close to having their period so they use a RED condom as a "just in case" -- or, they know full well they are on their period and try to get a quickie in hoping I don't notice. Either way, they purposely use a RED condom for deception.

Anyone else have a similar experience?

[FKKguide]

The International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) has questioned the readiness of Suvarnabhumi airport for its official opening on Sept 28.

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Suvarnabhumi is being run under a temporary certificate issued by the Aviation Department.

It needs a permanent one approved by the ICAO for the Sept 28 opening.

So what else is new? TIT (This is Thailand)! Mai pen rai (no big deal, who cares?)!

The new airport will open sooner or later and this will be good news for Pattaya mongers, cutting off at least one hour from driving time. BTW: There are buses running BKK-Patty on the nearby Bangna-Trat expressway like every 15-30 minutes and cost about ~50 THB.

Good riddance, Don Muang airport!

[Meaty]

The International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) has questioned the readiness of Suvarnabhumi airport for its official opening on Sept 28.

The ICAO report, based on its information collected and observations made between last month and early this month, identifies 29 high-risk areas - or about one-third of the 93 items on its checklist.

Forty-three are rated as medium-risk and the rest low-risk.

It defines a high-risk item as one which "will most probably not be possible to resolve" before the opening date and could delay the opening plan.

Its report, sent to Airports of Thailand Plc (AoT), a copy of which was obtained by the Bangkok Post, was leaked to the press yesterday ahead of key landing and operation tests for local flights set for tomorrow .

However, Suvarnabhumi airport general manager Somchai Sawasdeepon and caretaker Deputy Transport Minister Chainant Charoensiri yesterday confirmed the readiness of tomorrow's tests when Thai Airways International, Bangkok Airways, Thai AirAsia, One-Two-Go Airlines, Nok Air, and PB Air will service 20 local flights in and out of the new international airport in Samut Prakan's Bang Phli district.

"Everything is ready [for the test flights]," Mr Somchai said.

AoT president Chotisak Asapaviriya refused to comment on the ICAO report, saying he had not seen it yet. Some people were trying to derail attempts to open the 155-billion-baht airport for commercial flights in September, he said.

The group's tactics included releasing false or fabricated information to serve their purpose, said the chief of AoT, an agency under the Transport Ministry overseeing international airports, including Suvarnabhumi.

Mr Somchai and Aviation Department chief Chaisak Angkasuwan said the ICAO report was an internal document used by airport officials to check on the progress of the project.

Both were confident that all problems identified by the United Nations-affiliated agency responsible for airport safety and security would be fixed in time for the official opening.

The report was made by the ICAO for AoT to check-list problems that need to be corrected, Mr Somchai said.

"It's like a warning for us to know which areas need to be improved.

"None of the listed problems are new.

"The report comes out every month for us to evaluate progress, and alert us to emergency issues," he said.

The airport agency also hired an independent firm, FAEZA, to double-check the readiness of all systems, said the Suvarnabhumi airport chief.

Outgoing Senator Chirmsak Pinthong said he was worried about the risks mentioned in the ICAO report, especially with landings taking place at the 155-billion-baht airport tomorrow.

He saw tomorrow's tests as events designed to boost the image of caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

He called on Mr Thaksin to take responsibility should any accident occur after all flight operations, both domestic and international, are moved from Don Muang to the new airport on Sept 28.

Among the high-risk items identified by the ICAO in its report are the "airfield visual aides" including taxiway, apron and airside road signs, lights and markings.

Failure to address them could lead to unsafe ground operations which "may contribute to an aircraft incident or accident", the report says.

Other identified risks outside the airport's terminal include a high antenna tower at the King Mongkut Institute of Technology's Lat Krabang campus which, the report says, could pose safety risks for planes approaching a runway, inadequate lighting for illuminating obstacles around the airport, insufficient safe areas at runway extremities, and the lack of an effective wildlife hazard control programme.

The institute's tower should be lowered and safe areas at runway ends expanded, according to the report.

Problems inside the building were identified as the baggage handling system and preparations for emergency situations, especially the fire alarm system.

Suvarnabhumi is being run under a temporary certificate issued by the Aviation Department.

It needs a permanent one approved by the ICAO for the Sept 28 opening.

[Meaty]

Excellent report, full of info, nice one. Would be much better suited in the Massage Parlours thread though, wouldn't want the info to be missed.

[Meaty]

The Traveller & Member #2401
DFTT (Don't Fuck This Thread) - Fight Club please children

[Member #2041]

Member #2041, .... You also still avoid to answer those below mentioned questions.

As I said below, first of all, it's not any of your concern, and 2nd of all, I decided quite early in this discussion that your opinions and questions were much more worthy of mockery than a serious response. You've not given me any reason to alter that opinion.

I guess it's better to stop here as your aggressions seem to take over and who needs another stupid fight ?

We can only hope. I would add that that I don't believe tugging on marionette strings is an act of aggression.

[The Traveler]

Member #2041,

joke or not, as I pointed out several times, it doesn't matter if you go bareback or not as long as you defend it as being a "personal business"
You also still avoid to answer those below mentioned questions.

OK, so you have made your point and I have made mine.
Let's agree to disagree and try to relax.
We are just talking here, exchanging opinions and arguments, no need to get personal.

Seems that we have again reached a point where one of the participants runs out of arguments and turns to flames. Therefore I guess it's better to stop here as your aggressions seem to take over and who needs another stupid fight ?

Why not also move into the "Safe Sex" thread to lecture MarcoStraight and Rubber Nursey that they should mind their own business instead of criticizing Johnson994 ? There is absolutely no difference between them and me.

[Member #2041]

Actually Traveler, our discussions started with me making a sarcastic joke about liking to go bareback to help solve the baby shortage in Thailand, which you mistook for a factual statement about my behavior, and then also which you arrogantly took as an opportunity to preach to me about how I ought to conduct my own private business. At which point I decided that your opinions were more worth mocking than actually paying attention to.

[Oosik1]

My intention is not to insert myself into this discussion between the two contributors, but only to add that it is satisfying to read Traveler's contributions in here, because they seem always to be reasonable and well considered by him. I, too, am quite nervous and jerky about the thought of going bareback with strangers, and it should be for them, too. Yes, it feels much better, but consider the guilt and fear you must deal with for months, years to come should you inherit some disease. One of three things will occur. 1.) Future sex WILL/SHOULD be done with a condom if you are infected, so then you'll have to forgo the full pleasure anyway. 2.) You will knowingly infect others. 3.) You will be forced to abstain. Use a condom.

[The Traveler]

Just curious, who appointed you as the arbiter of those limits for all mongers? Certainly, there are other folks who would draw those boundaries at different points, such as engaging in any type of commercial sex whatsoever. And those folks might outnumber you. Certainly, I see no good reason that you should not acquiesce to their desire to control your behavior, any more than I ought acquiesce to your desire to control mine. That's why I take the position that it's not anyone else's position to try to impose their views on others. I do make sure that all of my activities are with fully consenting partners. And I don't bother to consult anyone else for their opinions about it.

I agree that knowingly spreading HIV is a form of assault and ought well be subject to criminal sanctions as such. But that's not what we are talking about, and it's an entirely irrelevant point.

Member #2041,

we weren't talking about self interest too, but you brought it forward to support your point of view and in my response I only pointed out that self-interest has it's limits set by the lawmakers. In other words, even the lawmakers say that we are responsible for our behaviour, which brings us back were we started off.

Our discussions started by you saying, that you enjoy going bareback. I responded, that we should refrain from doing so, as it will increase the overall risk for everybody partaking in this hobby and that we have to take responsibility for the possible consequences of our doing.

In this context it doesn't matter if you really do go bareback or not, it also doesn't matter if it's a personal matter or not and it also doesn't matter if anybody should make his decisions on his expectations and assumptions about other people's behaviour or not. So far all your objections and demurs were entirely irrelevant points as they were missing the spot, which is, that the overall risk will increase and that we have to take responsibility for our doing.

I also do not impose my views on others, as such would imply, that I have means to enforce them, which isn't the case. All I do is to point out to the consequences of such behaviour and hope that those who really engage in bareback sex might at least think about it and hopefully change their behaviour, even though it isn't very likely.

Furthermore I have no desire to control your behaviour, never said I have. I would like to see a change of it in case you really do go bareback, but I have no control about it. It seems that any criticism about anything that you consider as "private business" only causes your resistance instead of really thinking about that matter.

Due to this and the somehow emotional way you were responding to me, I assume that you indeed go bareback. In case this assumption is correct, I appeal to you to think about your behaviour, you may spread diseases and increase the overall infection ratio by it and many girls don't know about all the risks involved. Are you really ready to take responsibility for your doing ? Maybe one day you will find out that you have infected others with HIV and are therefore responsible for their suffering and death. All that just to maximize your fun.

[JuiceSpike]

AIRPORT SCANDAL
Inquiry into TAGS books urged by top Democrat

Questions raised over political links of ground services firm's shareholders

Veteran Democrat politician Kobsak Sabhavasu yesterday demanded the auditor-general probe the accounts of Thai Airport Ground Services (TAGS).

Kobsak's demand follows allegations that TAGS' new shareholders are nominees of a politically linked Thai interest group.

As the first commercial flights to Suvarnabhumi Airport touched down on Saturday, Kobsak revived claims about TAGS' allegedly dubious shareholding.

In December last year TAGS won the Suvarnabhumi Airport ground-services contract offered by Airports of Thailand Plc (AoT). There was no tender.

Questions over mysterious TAGS shareholdings remained unanswered, Kobsak said.

AoT owns 28.5 per cent of TAGS' shares.

AoT awarded a controversial 10-year contract to an obscure Singapore-based company that, through TAGS, would manage the new airport's 40,000-square-metre free zone logistics centre (FLC).

Kobsak claimed Singapore's Frobisher Pte Co Ltd was suspected of being a nominee of a politically linked Thai interest group.

Frobisher owns 48 per cent of TAGS' stock. The company's track record remains a mystery.

He said Frobisher had a registered capital of Bt2.4 million. The company identified its shareholders as a Singaporean lawyer, Thai investor Rawadi Jantawit and a trust fund.

Frobisher's accounts going back three years showed income in the first year of just Bt120. It increased to Bt200 in the second year.

"But media reports had Frobisher snapping up shares of British Airways and Lufthansa worth more than Bt200 million," Kobsak said.

Kobsak suspected large amounts of money were being spirited out of the country through TAGS. Evidence showed that before TAGS shares were purchased, TAGS spent Bt400 million to hire a consulting company for five months.

Consultant Detek was registered in the British Virgin Islands but its Singapore address was the same as that for Frobisher.

"We suspect the money was siphoned out of TAGS, which is not an ordinary private company but a company in which Thai state enterprises hold shares. The money was used to buy shares from the former shareholders. When a ghost company took up a major stake, it won the contract from AoT without having to bid,'' Kobsak said.

Relevant officials could not be reached yesterday for comment on Kobsak's allegations.

But, in December last year, Transport Minister Pongsak Ruktapongpisal dismissed the concerns.

He claimed no knowledge of Frobisher's shareholdings. But, its ownership was irrelevant as long as the company could do the job it was contracted to do, he said.

At that time an AoT source defended the decision to award TAGS the ground-services contract without holding a tender. The work was outsourcing, so bids were not necessary, the source said.

Kobsak yesterday called on Pongsak to take responsibility for allowing a ghost company to operate a business with a state enterprise.

The TAGS contract required reconsideration by the Cabinet, he said.

Kobsak questioned whether AoT knew about the Bt400 million TAGS spent hiring consultant Detek.

"The company meeting minutes for December 11 last year were altered. There was no report of the Bt400 million expense. But later that expense was detected in the accounts,'' Kobsak said.

Kobsak said the auditor-general had the authority to check TAGS' accounts because it was partly owned by Thai state enterprises.

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[JuiceSpike]

Bangkok airport might not open on schedule
Beth Jinks
2006-07-31
BANGKOK'S long-delayed new airport may not be ready for its September 29 scheduled opening, the International Air Transport Association said on Saturday.

Suvarnabhumi International Airport mustn't take over from the existing Don Muang airport until "robust and comprehensive testing" ensures all systems are working, the group, which represents 260 airlines with 94 percent of world air traffic, said over the weekend, according to Bloomberg News.

"What is important is to have Suvarnabhumi Airport begin commercial operations only when it is operationally ready," the transport group said. The airport must consult airlines to agree on a "go or no-go decision for the opening date of the airport."

The opening of the 155 billion baht (US$4.1 billion) airport has been delayed three times from its official September 29, 2005, launch amid construction delays, cost overruns and corruption scandals. Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra said the facility will take over all of the Thai capital's commercial air traffic in two months and replace the ageing Don Muang airfield, Asia's second-busiest airport.

On Saturday, Thaksin reiterated during his weekly national radio address that the airport will meet the opening deadline. He also boarded Thai Airways International Pcl's first test flight from Suvarnabhumi.

The state-controlled airline is the biggest of six Thai carriers enlisted to fly with passengers through the facility on Saturday to test the readiness of its runways and systems including baggage, passenger check-in, and security screening.

Trial flights undertaken on the weekend do "not test the airport's ability to handle heavy traffic," said Albert Tjoeng, IATA's Asia Pacific spokesman.

Thaksin has staked his reputation as a "chief executive" prime minister on progressing with projects including the Suvarnabhumi airport.

He faces an election in October in a country that has been without a functioning parliament since February, when he called a snap election after near-daily protests in Bangkok demanding his resignation. The April poll was widely boycotted and later annulled by a court, leading to a political stalemate.

Suvarnabhumi is already overdue. Don Muang was first used as an airfield in 1914 before being expanded into a commercial airport more than 60 years ago.

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[Fox Two]

Day 9 or so

Things have been going well the past several days. I’ve settled into a routine of waking up around noon, going downstairs for breakfast (sometimes with, sometimes without companion) and then checking my email. After that, it’s a trip to one of the nearby massage parlors. I’ve been to Aviva on Soi 8, Thonglor II on Soi 24, and Love Teen Massage on Soi 33. After that it’s back to Giotto’s for an evening meal and a game or two of pool with a few of his charming girls. Then it’s time for trip to NEP, Soi Cowboy or just hang out at one of the painter’s pubs on Soi 33 to look for some horizontal refreshment. Of course, I’ve sprinkled in some sightseeing around the area to keep some respectability with colleagues and relatives back home who aren’t aware of this particular hobby of mine.

In this post, I just wanted to focus on oily massages I’ve had here so far.

Aviva is a small massage place that is on a side street to the right, as you walk on Soi 8, going away from Sukhumvit. The rooms are small and the beds are low to the ground. There aren’t too many girls there, less than a dozen. The girl I was recommended wasn’t there, so I picked Lisa from the picture album. She was shorter than I expected (4’ and change) and a little chubbier than when her glamour picture was taken. She didn’t speak much English so I used some imaginative hand gestures and that worked well enough. Rather than give a blow by blow exposition, I’ll just say the massage was good. I almost fell asleep at certain relaxing points. The sex, on the other hand, was just fair, as she tended to be more passive and needed prompting. Damage was 600 to the house and I gave 1500 for the special service.

Thonglor II is another Oily place on Soi 24. It’s right by the Emporium and easy to find. It’s a classier place with a Japanese motif and soft music piped in throughout the building. I was asked for my shoes and issued a pair of slippers when I entered. I was then offered a drink and given an album to make my selection. A girl came out with a choice of lotions to sample and smell too. I thought it was a nice touch. They have a large selection of girls, but only about half were working there at the time I visited (around 4pm weekday afternoon). I was going to ask for Pu based on past reviews, but she was busy. Didn’t really see anyone I was interested in but I finally went with Umi. She looked a lot older than her album picture suggested and I almost thought I was a victim of a bait and switch, but she did have a nice athletic figure with a full, enhanced chest. Thinking I might get better action since she wasn’t all that attractive facially, I went for the 2 hour aromatherapy session for 1500 (kinda pricey in my book). This was the wrong choice, but I’ll address that later. As it turned out, the massage wasn’t all that great and the sex was just a mechanical release of tension. I enjoyed my session with Lisa at Aviva much more. Umi just wasn’t very cheery to start with and we didn’t really have any chemistry going during our “get to know you” chat. Wound up giving her 1500 and made as quick an exit as politely possible. In retrospect, I should have gone for a 1.5 hour trial session and upgraded later if things had gone better. Well, live and learn. I won’t be seeing Umi again.

Love Teen on Soi 33 is just up the street from Livingstone’s, same side. Here I had my best session to date in BKK. It’s not as well furnished as Thonglor II but the rooms are larger than Aviva. Love Teen has a “balls massage” specialty where the girls spend some extra time massaging your “meat and two veggies”. I went around 4pm on a Wednesday and there were about 15-18 girls that came out for a line up. I didn't see any stunners and thought the girls were about average to just above average. Fees were 600 to the house for a 1.5 hour session and 1500 to the girl, which I thought it was reasonable. I chose a slender girl named “Pookie”. She has shoulder length brown hair, nice smooth skin with small perky breasts. Things started a little slow, but she gradually opened up as we chatted. Her English wasn’t great, but again, imaginative hand gestures work quite well. Her technique wasn’t too bad and it was a fair massage. The balls massage part felt quite good though and I’d definitely recommend trying it. She used a combination of oils, fingers, palms and her chest to create a really enjoyable sensation. As the massage progressed, I started giving her a massage as well and she really responded to it. We went back and forth for quite a while. Then we started some DFK, licking, and before long sex became a natural part of the massage. Neither of us was watching the clock, and here in this case, that wasn’t quite a good thing. We were just starting to get into the main event when we realized we only had about 15 minutes left. We rushed through several positions but in the end I couldn’t finish. The more pressed for time I feel, the longer it takes for me to come. Just the way I am I guess. I don’t blame Pookie for any wrongdoing. We just had great chemistry, enjoyed massaging each other a bit too much and forgot about the time. Although I didn't come, overall I thought it was a fantastic session and I definitely plan to go back for at least 2 hours to finish the job properly.

I’ve had a few talks with several of the punters I’ve met while staying here and the general consensus is that the goal should not be about finding the right massage place. The goal should be about finding the right girl, at whatever place she may happen to be working.

More to come…

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