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[Etaoin2003]

3) fast internet when doing biz is HUGE. Id hate to lug my shit around to hotel to hotel in order to find all this.

Well... you're going to Thailand. The girls will blow your mind, and your other end. But the Internet ... don't get your hopes up. You'll be lucky if the electrical power stays on. When you see the wires hanging from the power poles you'll understand.

[Lowkey1]

Choice is yours. I very much appreciate all input that all members have given and Giotto. One thing I hate when checking out a new city is the location and comfort of the hotel when you just go and wonder around. At first I was going to spend one day at LL, but now after watching all the conversation I am going to spend my whole trip there. 1) I love steaks. 2) I love pool 3) fast internet when doing biz is HUGE. Id hate to lug my shit around to hotel to hotel in order to find all this. PLUS A DISCOUNT FOR BEING A MONGER.

This board is a great tool, but some things you have to figure for yourself and I plan to figure out BKK from the comfort of my room at LL!

Giott0, I will be sending you a PM in a few hours once my donation to another forum has cleared! Then I'll ask you a few questions. And guys, I will be posting some day by day experiences. I like all sorts of box, from bargain free lancer box to high end box, so I will try little samples all over.

HOpe to bump into some members at the pool while I sip on my drink and eat one of many steaks!

[Daddy San]

Originally Posted by The Pro

Its expensive, the rooms are not very luxurious, the location is poor in terms of traffic........and thats why they have to "market" it all over the forums in attempt to try to drum up business.

They prefer to "latch" on to newbies who might not know Bangkok, and then rip them off, as such, with their overpriced offerings.

Far better hotels on Sukhumvit, nearer to the action and with far better rooms, all at cheaper prices......

But then, its anyones choice to stay there if they want to.
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Yes you moron, and in spite of your infantile and inept attacks, I shall be staying there for the third year runnig.

[Nvslim]

I realize this is a Thailand forum, but I don't see any US equivalent. So can someone please help. I don't mind paying a premium. How do you find Bangkokesque extra petite early twenties hotties in NYC?

You gots to know where to look. Try http://www.usasexguide(DOT)info/forum/

Slim

[Mong1225]

I've been to BKK twice, and was so incredibly spoiled that I'm afraid I'll never be able to match that level of satisfaction until I return. Unfortunately I can't go back any time soon.

The reason I think I'll never be able to match BKK heights? Well, I love extra petite girls, early twenties, and this is nearly impossible to find in New York (although they're everywhere in BKK). I got lucky once on craigslist, but have not been able to repeat that.

I realize this is a Thailand forum, but I don't see any US equivalent. So can someone please help. I don't mind paying a premium. How do you find Bangkokesque extra petite early twenties hotties in NYC?

[LittleBigMan]

Dear The Pro!

Please take a moment and view my response on the Expat Thread " Opinion "

Thank you,
LBM

[Giotto]

Its simple really, keep all your LL and Giotto stuff in the Giotto and LL threads then.
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The Pro,

It is you who is spreading this discussion to all threads of the Thailand forum. Nobody was doing that in the past.

If Fon Tok mentions to have visited Livingstone's Lodge he suddenly is suspected to be my second handle, or to act on my instruction. None of this allegations is true.

It is quite normal that Livingstone's is mentioned in the main Thailand forum as well as all other places. It is even possible that it is mentioned more often, because many ISG guys come here, just to have a dinner or a beer with me. So - where is the problem?

Last but not least:

It is one thing to discuss our price structure, and everybody can have his own assessment whether it is ok, too expensive or too cheap (I heard all those opinions over the years). A judgement about this is definitely up to each person, who HAS VISITED OUR PLACE / HAS STAYED IN THE HOTEL ROOMS.

It is a complete different issue to state that we are ripping of customers. This can conduct injuries to the interests of our business, and there is the point where discussions can get serious.

Of course mistakes and problems happen here as in all other places ("shit happens"). There are for sure customers who can write about certain incidents when things went wrong. There are reports about those incidents, and there will be reports about those incidents in the future.

But nobody gets ripped off here at Livingstone's Lodge. To state this is an affront, and it disqualifies you as poster who can be taken seriously.


Giotto

[The Pro]

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[Member #3428]

You should be aware though that Giotto and his band of merry posters attempt their best to try to "plug" LL as often as possible.

Its expensive, the rooms are not very luxurious, the location is poor in terms of traffic........and thats why they have to "market" it all over the forums in attempt to try to drum up business.

They prefer to "latch" on to newbies who might not know Bangkok, and then rip them off, as such, with their overpriced offerings.

Far better hotels on Sukhumvit, nearer to the action and with far better rooms, all at cheaper prices......

But then, its anyones choice to stay there if they want to.

The Pro.... I've called you out many times, I've said let's have a drink, lets meet, I've sent you msgs on other sites where you are doing the same thing. You might have valid points, you might not. But you are just slamming a place for no reason in most peoples opinion.

Every town we are a newbie in for some time and ISG members meet up at LL as well as other locations. I know for a fact and I will be kicked out of the "LL Fan Club" for saying this but I know for a fact that every guy who has posted support for LL does not stay there at all times.

Trav123 stays at other places when his wife is in town, 1Ball I heard stayed at another place when his GF was looking for him, I stay at serviced apartments due to work, Duni has more experience at more hotels then many folks and posted a hotel listing on ISG, MP Lurker has posted hotel listings all over town, PITA123 stays at other places due to his work, NicFrenchy lives in town and does not need a hotel etc... we could go on and on. I post all the time about hotels and serviced apartments in the hotel thread. Please read the hotel thread and you will see that all of us support more places. But when we can yes we stay at LL because we like it there. So call the Tourist Police and arrest us.

BUT... what you seem to have a problem with is that people can be friends, can frequent a place, enjoy a bar, enjoy the food, enjoy the owner, and yes when we can we stay there. If an ISG newbie or a BKK newbie wants to come to LL they stand a high chance of meeting an ISG member that has been in BKK for multiple years and knows most of the joints to go monger at.

Is that bad? Is that such a bad thing that the owner of LL, Gioto, has a place where ISG members can go, drink, eat, sleep, talk, relax, and OH MY GOD if we are horny we might find a girl. I've had two long term girls out of LL I admit this. I've had 15 or so short time girls out of LL maybe. I've even had a mamasan or two (not current ones folks so don't get your nickers up). Girls want 4,000 or 3,000 baht, I'm not going to get into what girls ask for their time as I honestly for half a year don't know thanks to having a GF. The last girl I took there become more of a GF and is not working there anymore. But when I was at CowBoy you know what, the girls started at 4 K.

Overpriced ???

Drinks... OK let me see the drinks I got at cowboy were about the size of a double shot glass and costed the same as a full adult sized glass at LL.

Overpriced ???

Rooms, comfortable, the owner gives a discount even if you post that his hotel is a piece of shit Seriously there is no rule that you have to post postiive you have to post about your MONGERING experience and STAY in BKK etc... to get a discount. You can get a room upgrade, so you could get a high end room for 1800 or so baht. PLEASE CORRECT ME AS I REALLY AM NOT CURRENT ON BILLING..... There is no joiner fee even if I joked to GeorgeSims about it earlier... There are no hidden fees or such. But what is #1 most important to me and many business travelers is that the dang wifi is STRONG and fast and we can do our work while in the bar or at the pool. Or if you are there you can eamil your wife or GF back home telling her how hard you are working.... Many hotels and locations in BKK have crap signal and strength. Can not use skype or trading accounts or live programs due to the weak signals at other locations. At LL you have a strong fast signal and my programs where i need to log in form outside allows me access.

Overpriced???

YES THERE ARE 1,000'S OF ROOMS ALL OVER BKK. Go find what you want OK, all the people you claim to be supporters of LL have posted reviews of other hotels and bars and MP's and such. So you are going to claim anyone who goes to Beer Garden is a Fan Boy of Beer Garden and getting free Singha for posting about it???? Really I think you do have some psychosis going in that head of yours.

I will be the first person to admit that people can have different opinions and there are times that people like 1Ball, NicFrenchy, MPLurker, Giotto, Pita123, and others do NOT always agree on things. But how the fuck could we agree on everything as we are from all over the world and view things from different jobs and countries perspectives. But we are adults and we do talk things out and we do meet. Giotto and I had a nice dinner on soi 12 then a drink at Cowboy my last visit. How does that make me a Fan Boy of LL? How is that bad, the owner of LL meets with a friend in another location.... but you say we only support LL... you really have NO CLUE as to what you say.

If anyone of these guys sent me an email or text message for help I would help them. WHY? because I've meet them and talked to them and went out with them and we all meet at LL or other places and spent time together.

So may I ask if you are afraid, jealous, insecure in your masculinity, or what? Can a bunch of guys who like WOMEN not get together and talk at a place and enjoy that place. Many people go to Ball N Hand and shoot pool and meet there. Are you going to start to slam them?

For ISG readers, newbies, etc... LL is a place you can go to, if you stay there or not, to meet other ISG members who share the same hobby (some of us go to extremes and are total ass holes as I am chairman of the ass hole committee and persona non grata at many locations in BKK), get advice, not feel totally uncomfortable, and learn the lay of the land in BKK. When I go to Pattaya or Manila other places I go to the local ISG hang outs and meet the experienced guys as things change often. You would be a fool if you do not use the ISG resources and people to the fullest. SO WHAT IS YOUR BIG FUCKING DEAL ABOUT MEETING AT LL?

So why do you have such a hard on about these places? Just now the guys (duni, 1ball, others) are starting in again, I've called you out, put up or shut up, meet up for a drink anywhere as I really believe you are a troll. Whatever wrong is done to you let me hear it, were you overcharged 10 baht on your bill? A girl you took from LL said you had a baby monkey and could not perform? What?

Or do you really want advice on how to operate your own business when you open up and are trolling here now.... But until you show some efforts or proof of what you insinuate about others here shut the hell up on attacking ISG members.

Call me whatever you want to call me I don't give a rats ass, I'm the only one calling you out to meet in person, but stop your insinuations about these other members that you do not know or have never met. You are just making yourself out to be a ******* and that is infringing on my title

[1Ball]

The Pro,

Nobody gets ripped off here at Livingstone's Lodge!
Giotto

I could not agree more. LL is a very cool place. I have stayed there at least a dozen times. Never a problem, never a complaint. If the pro has stayed there, incognito of course, as he probably doesn't have the balls to introduce himself to G, (and I know something about having or not having a pair of balls), then he should speak up. A businessman always wants to hear how to improve things..

So pro, put up, air your grievances, or SHUT THE FUCK UP. NOBODY WANTS TO READ YOUR BIASED BULLSHIT.

[1Ball]

Tansak implied The Pro might actually be the return of The Traveller. I don't think so - he's too fucking stupid.

T1234, you are giving TT more credit than he is due.

But in all fairness, TT would never step foot in Annies. (not bashing Annies).

[Giotto]

I will be in BKK from Nov 10th till the 17th. I hear good things about your hotel and I have been to your website. Should I email, call or just say I am an ISG member when i arrive? I think its great that you offer a discount for us. Im sure the answer to my questions are somewhere on the site, but I am not real good at searching the threads. Please let me know what to do and I look forward to meeting you.

George Sims,

You find the conditions of the ISG discount for members here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...ead.php?t=2536

Furthermore - no joiner fees at Livingstone's Lodge.

I tried to send a PM to you, but ... you did not activate Private Messaging .


Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.th

[Member #3428]

Speaking of fines, does LL charge for you to bring a girl back? I hope not.

Only if they are uglier then you

[Lowkey1]

Apart from the barfine.

Speaking of fines, does LL charge for you to bring a girl back? I hope not.

[Titanio]

George Sims,

No, neither the front desk nor anybody else here will do that. Livingstone's Lodge is a hotel, and within the hotel complex we are running restaurants and the Sports Lounge. If you are looking for a girl you either bring a girl in from wherever you find her, or you go to the Sports Lounge and possibly find somebody there. That's definitely something you have to take care of personally, we don't want to get involved into that.

Giotto

Apart from the barfine.