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[Member #4591]

To be simple. They are human and so are we and not everyone is cut from the same cookie cutter. Many of us understand exactly what you are talking about and agree with the situation you post but it doesn't mean we have to stoop to that level and label them and generalize. As for defending, no one is insisting. I do not think anyone is defending them no more than you generalizing about your one situation that every Thai girl would do the same.
Would it be right if you met a Thai girl and she told you that she does not like Falang, they are all butterfly come to Thailand and treat us like dogs, lie and then leave. If you heard this it would be obvious that she got burn by a falang would that be fair to you?

Good points but I would still never defend their honour on a sex forum. Yes all cultures have good and bad. You would be very surprised what I hear when my date thinks I cannot understand Thai. That's why I just take every date as a in the moment type of thing. In your example it is is fair to say that Thai girls have been burned by foreigners and vice versa. BTW this is just one situation of many I can describe as well as others.

[LittleBigMan]

I would like to propose an area of discussion regarding the undying respect some of our fellow members give the working girls here in Thaialnd. I am curious to know why some of us feel the need to defend the honor of these girls? I am really curious. I would like to give a quick example for the members to ponder. Recently I met a girl from Facebook. White skinned from Changmai. We went out on a couple of dates and planned a Valentines date for the 14th. Great sex after the second date. Her friend I met on one of our dates had met three different Thai guys throughout the evening, two married and one single. She was stringing all of them along because of financial reasons. My girl suddenly out of the blue sends me a line message last night telling me her friend needed 7000 Baht to pay her overdue rent and she wanted to help her but didn't have the Money. Promised she would pay me back. So in her eyes I should give this to her and trust her 100% to pay me back all after two dates. To make a long story short after I said no she began calling me down and sent pictures of her pilot boyfriend to me telling me I was no good and he was good. In conclusion she was also attempting to string me along. So my question again is why do some of the fellow members insist on trying to defend the honor of these girls? In my eyes it's simple. We pay and they stay LOL. If we can keep this discussion civil, I would really like to know.

To be simple. They are human and so are we and not everyone is cut from the same cookie cutter. Many of us understand exactly what you are talking about and agree with the situation you post but it doesn't mean we have to stoop to that level and label them and generalize. As for defending, no one is insisting. I do not think anyone is defending them no more than you generalizing about your one situation that every Thai girl would do the same.
Would it be right if you met a Thai girl and she told you that she does not like Falang, they are all butterfly come to Thailand and treat us like dogs, lie and then leave. If you heard this it would be obvious that she got burn by a falang would that be fair to you?

[Member #4591]

Well actually I've a good opinion about them, is that what you mean (smile) ? They can maintain themselves honestly, what's wrong with that?

You can often read postings like "she has a good job. From a good family. An impressive apartment and drives her own car" or "no money was ever asked or discussed", another pearl is "she seemed embarrassed in accepting the money". That doesn't change things a bit. You can be a young Thai TV star and you would be still expected to pay. It is only when you are known to have no money or fucking someone ugly that you are not.

Once I got to see an house for rent in one of the best neighbors of Bangkok. The very hot girl which family owns it showed up in an BMW convertible, M edition, because she had sold the Mini. From there is was all talks of handling multiple properties until she dropped us off at another Hi-end apartment complex. The young foreigner RE agent that was with me must have soaked the carpet by drooling after her. Now, not that it would ever happen, but if I was to sleep with her I would have no problem to leave 2 or 3 K by the bed stand. She would use them to pay her nails or give to the temple, but I know she would have no objection or problem, perhaps a laugh and a funny comment on the amount.

I am referring to random members posting a photo, contact info, and sharing intimate details about the Thai girl, bar girl or not and having other members tell him it's wrong to do so. My thinking is these thai girls whether they are working in a bar or not could care two shits about any farang. They are quite happily fucking around with us at the same time as their Thai guy. Many times the Thai man even knows and helps spend the money. I was recently just reminded of this so i posted about my experience. Everyday I read about men losing their money to these girls. Just today I read about a bloke who has overstayed his visa by 4 months and was arrested. Guess what? His excuse was a Thai girl drained his money and then left. If I pick up a random girl, freebie or not I could give a rats ass about her reputation just as she could care less about mine. There's no helping them hook up with other customers, helping them find out about our forum. It's a date and sex after, a casual hook up in my room, or a pay for play situation, that's it. For any member on this forum who thinks that these girls actually have any respect for us then please come and see me. I have a nice bridge for sale. Thai culture is about the men taking care of the woman and it seems the Thai men have a lot more leeway in this than farang. I have even seem bar girls or regular girls supporting their Thai boyfriends. Yes I can agree that not all Thai ladies are like how I describe but I have no intention of protecting their reputations, careers and so on. All I do know is I have never had a complaint from any lady after one of our dates. I take them to nice restaurants, bars, for occasional shopping but I certainly will not be scammed out of my money. This is just my opinion. I hope we can continue to discuss this without taking it personal. Happy mongering guys and take care of your wallets!

[TwoTimeTed]

In some posts I read that the Thai ladies give their BF or husband all the money they earn, in other posts I read that the women are expecting money from the boyfriend husband.

I talked to one Thai female in the states and she says when Thai women get shacked up they combine bank accounts as one right away to share expenses.

So are we taking about normal girls or ladies of the night? Or is there a difference?

[Old New Guy]

Very good points but why do we defend their honor in this forum? I can't figure it out!

Well actually I've a good opinion about them, is that what you mean (smile) ? They can maintain themselves honestly, what's wrong with that?

You can often read postings like "she has a good job. From a good family. An impressive apartment and drives her own car" or "no money was ever asked or discussed", another pearl is "she seemed embarrassed in accepting the money". That doesn't change things a bit. You can be a young Thai TV star and you would be still expected to pay. It is only when you are known to have no money or fucking someone ugly that you are not.

Once I got to see an house for rent in one of the best neighbors of Bangkok. The very hot girl which family owns it showed up in an BMW convertible, M edition, because she had sold the Mini. From there is was all talks of handling multiple properties until she dropped us off at another Hi-end apartment complex. The young foreigner RE agent that was with me must have soaked the carpet by drooling after her. Now, not that it would ever happen, but if I was to sleep with her I would have no problem to leave 2 or 3 K by the bed stand. She would use them to pay her nails or give to the temple, but I know she would have no objection or problem, perhaps a laugh and a funny comment on the amount.

[Member #4591]

Well, in reality a Thai girl's honor is high when she does well at what you described. We must understand that Thailand has a thousands year long tradition in this. It is part of their culture, a rich man can have as many GFs as he wants as long he's paying and treats them well. From Kings to policemen of today. If he doesn't pay, they will just walk away. Of course we're talking about women that are attractive, or sexually skilled. The ones that are not are simply not of an interest to anyone and will stick to the only husband they can find, an stay living in country. Just watch two Thai music videos, and one will be about a beautiful country girl that leaves to go live in Bangkok with a rich man that she doesn't love. If I was playing this game, I would not make a big deal, rather try to learn how to play. E. g when asked 7 K loan, offer 2 K gift with some explanation.

Things change when the foreigner is taken for serious money, first the dowry, then buy land, build house, then loose everything. That is a different game.

But with the city girls is easy to get along fueling the relationship with what you can honestly afford and is worth for the returns you get.

Very good points but why do we defend their honor in this forum? I can't figure it out!

[Old New Guy]

I would like to propose an area of discussion regarding the undying respect some of our fellow members give the working girls here in Thailand. I am curious to know why some of us feel the need to defend the honor of these girls? I am really curious. I would like to give a quick example for the members to ponder. Recently I met a girl from Facebook. White skinned from Changmai. We went out on a couple of dates and planned a Valentines date for the 14th. Great sex after the second date. Her friend I met on one of our dates had met three different Thai guys throughout the evening, two married and one single. She was stringing all of them along because of financial reasons. My girl suddenly out of the blue sends me a line message last night telling me her friend needed 7000 Baht to pay her overdue rent and she wanted to help her but didn't have the Money. Promised she would pay me back. So in her eyes I should give this to her and trust her 100% to pay me back all after two dates. To make a long story short after I said no she began calling me down and sent pictures of her pilot boyfriend to me telling me I was no good and he was good. In conclusion she was also attempting to string me along. So my question again is why do some of the fellow members insist on trying to defend the honor of these girls? In my eyes it's simple. We pay and they stay LOL. If we can keep this discussion civil, I would really like to know.

Well, in reality a Thai girl's honor is high when she does well at what you described. We must understand that Thailand has a thousands year long tradition in this. It is part of their culture, a rich man can have as many GFs as he wants as long he's paying and treats them well. From Kings to policemen of today. If he doesn't pay, they will just walk away. Of course we're talking about women that are attractive, or sexually skilled. The ones that are not are simply not of an interest to anyone and will stick to the only husband they can find, an stay living in country. Just watch two Thai music videos, and one will be about a beautiful country girl that leaves to go live in Bangkok with a rich man that she doesn't love. If I was playing this game, I would not make a big deal, rather try to learn how to play. E. g when asked 7 K loan, offer 2 K gift with some explanation.

Things change when the foreigner is taken for serious money, first the dowry, then buy land, build house, then loose everything. That is a different game.

But with the city girls is easy to get along fueling the relationship with what you can honestly afford and is worth for the returns you get.

[Deore27]

New member and planning my first tourist / mongering trip to Thailand in April for 24 days. Definitely will be spending time in Bangkok and Pattaya, but don't want to spend the whole time in both of those two cities. Reading forum posts for Bangkok Reports and Pattaya Reports going back to Jan 14 since I don't know anything. Looking for some recommendations on other cities / countries to visit. Places with both tourism attractions and a mongering scene. Any recommendations would be awesome.

Thank you

[Payu]

I would like to propose an area of discussion regarding the undying respect some of our fellow members give the working girls here in Thaialnd. I am curious to know why some of us feel the need to defend the honor of these girls? I am really curious. I would like to give a quick example for the members to ponder. Recently I met a girl from Facebook. White skinned from Changmai. We went out on a couple of dates and planned a Valentines date for the 14th. Great sex after the second date. Her friend I met on one of our dates had met three different Thai guys throughout the evening, two married and one single. She was stringing all of them along because of financial reasons. My girl suddenly out of the blue sends me a line message last night telling me her friend needed 7000 Baht to pay her overdue rent and she wanted to help her but didn't have the Money. Promised she would pay me back. So in her eyes I should give this to her and trust her 100% to pay me back all after two dates. To make a long story short after I said no she began calling me down and sent pictures of her pilot boyfriend to me telling me I was no good and he was good. In conclusion she was also attempting to string me along. So my question again is why do some of the fellow members insist on trying to defend the honor of these girls? In my eyes it's simple. We pay and they stay LOL. If we can keep this discussion civil, I would really like to know.

Hi Bkkdog,

I won't give you an answer to your question, I keep calm on such questions.

But IMHO I would have given here the asked 7 k, as you said sex was great and she has delivered some "goods" already, however making sure, that would be an exception of the norm. Giving it and looking how it develops can be quiet interesting.

I have numerous times the request, before they have delivered anything, that of course is a strict no go.

In my eyes this cash thing has nothing to do with farangs. Same story applies to wealthy Thai guys. They / We are simply expected to pay, because they / we have it and the girls not. Simple as it is. Nothing grumpy attached to this.

[TwoTimeTed]

Tough choice but I would pick Bangkok / Pattaya.

Of course there are many factors that play into it.

Tijuana is near the border, so a person can have a hotel in San Diego and go down to Tijuana for activities. I never seen LT girls in Tijuana, they were always one shot mamas or time period specific and almost very case, girls have pregnancy stretch marks and they are young. And by the way there is only one section of town that has the ladies of the night, called the Cahuilla (ka'wheeela) just as short as Soi Cowboy and that's it. Two different pricing structures for foreigners and Mexicans.

Then there's Habana, Cuba where the girls are everywhere and will basically go with you to bang simply for taking them out for a meal. Of course there is their red light district called the Malecon (the main drag along the sea) and the beaches are wonderful, many black and mulatto girls. The girls that are straight out hookers are called jinateras (heen'a'teras). Basically like Thailand except there are hardly any businesses, you have to ask some of the girls where the clubs are. When you go to the clubs, you are a star! At the clubs there are jinateras. Costs on the ladies are $20 to $50 USD and its always LT unless things have changed or negotiated for ST.

So in conclusion, Tijuana is close, but [CodeWord140] poor for a large section of red light districts and gals are marked up. Havana is great for Mongering, girls everywhere, you just need to sort out the good ones and if you like black or mulatto then this really good for you. Plus Havana is close to the states and the trip isn't exhausting.

So what about Bangkok? Far exhausting flight from the states 23 hours in all. Girls are everywhere which is good, and it is a party atmosphere with lots of Asian chicks if you have Asian fever, then it is here you should go.

[Member #4591]

I would like to propose an area of discussion regarding the undying respect some of our fellow members give the working girls here in Thaialnd. I am curious to know why some of us feel the need to defend the honor of these girls? I am really curious. I would like to give a quick example for the members to ponder. Recently I met a girl from Facebook. White skinned from Changmai. We went out on a couple of dates and planned a Valentines date for the 14th. Great sex after the second date. Her friend I met on one of our dates had met three different Thai guys throughout the evening, two married and one single. She was stringing all of them along because of financial reasons. My girl suddenly out of the blue sends me a line message last night telling me her friend needed 7000 Baht to pay her overdue rent and she wanted to help her but didn't have the Money. Promised she would pay me back. So in her eyes I should give this to her and trust her 100% to pay me back all after two dates. To make a long story short after I said no she began calling me down and sent pictures of her pilot boyfriend to me telling me I was no good and he was good. In conclusion she was also attempting to string me along. So my question again is why do some of the fellow members insist on trying to defend the honor of these girls? In my eyes it's simple. We pay and they stay LOL. If we can keep this discussion civil, I would really like to know.

[TwoTimeTed]

Initial Assessment of Thailand.

Bangkok and Pattaya reminds me of turd world Mexico City and Tijuana. Many people, many cars, pop up vendors along the sidewalks. The smell of sewer is about everywhere, the sidewalks are misaligned and things poping up on the sidewalks, drivers are crazy, no respect for traffic laws. The roads were paved 40 years ago and its shows, never repaved again. And its hotter than shit here and that reminds me of Havana.

I think Pattaya is better for partying, but might as well put a vagina on the map with a beer and baht next to it. Pattaya in general probably has more white people than Thais! The Engliah are everywhere! Then the Aussies and the other Scandinavian representatives, a lot of Japanese too. Maybe rename Central Pattaya to Little London.

I like the freelancer bars the best, no haggling of lady drinks. In Bangkok, the Beer Garden was the best (that I could find). I haven't yet found a comparable bar like that one in Pattaya yet.

My mongering back home was a once very two weeks hobby, in Thailand, I have to fit it into my vacation of two weeks. And by the way, in the USA we call holiday a one day special day such as Christmas, New Years, Thanksgiving. We call time off of work to rest and relax a vacation, so a tad bit confused about the use of the word holiday.

So my initial assessment of Thailand is probably going to irritate some of you, well, it is what it is.

I'm 40 something years old and hop this place is here in 20+ years so I can be like the men I see now getting young tail! Seriously.

[Uncle Volodya]

http://highspeedthai.com/ is the best. If you want to try by yourself the old way, I can link a couple PDFs in PM.

Khap khun mak na krap!

Do send those pdfs.

Kaaw an ni krap.

I need all the help I can get. LOL.

Alphabets looks impossible.

[Old New Guy]

Hi guys,

Sorry if this is a bit off topic. But I think its finally time to start learning the language of my favorite (mongering) destination. Can anyone recommend an online course that can help me learn the bare basics: the alphabet, and some chit chat beyond "kuhn suai mak", "kaphuh krap", etc. ?

I am not trying to become a native speaker over night. Just to get a good base and then maybe take some Thai lessons while I am there over the summer.

Many thanks!

Uncle-V.

http://highspeedthai.com/ is the best. If you want to try by yourself the old way, I can link a couple PDFs in PM.

[Uncle Volodya]

Hi guys,

Sorry if this is a bit off topic. But I think its finally time to start learning the language of my favorite (mongering) destination. Can anyone recommend an online course that can help me learn the bare basics: the alphabet, and some chit chat beyond "kuhn suai mak", "kaphuh krap", etc. ?

I am not trying to become a native speaker over night. Just to get a good base and then maybe take some Thai lessons while I am there over the summer.

Many thanks!

Uncle-V.