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06-18-19 03:32 #10589
Posts: 3040Airline Blues
Some interesting conversations on flying, but I can't recall when I flew on any airline without a preassigned seat and I would be damn pissed off if my fully paid seating was altered at the last minute by the airlines. On intercontinental routes I fly mostly Star Alliance: United, Swiss Air, Thai Air, ANA, etc or Sky Team: Delta, Air France, Korean Air, and China Eastern. In Asia I fly Air Asia, Thai Air, Singapore Air, Cebu Pacific, Philippine Air ect, but again all with preassigned seating and under most circumstances except an emergency, I would not fly any other way. I like the aisle (more leg room) and up front as much as possible for faster entry and exiting. On the intercontinental flights I pay up for more leg room. One time a pretty passenger asked me to change seats so she could sit with her boyfriend. Her seat was a middle seat several rows behind my seat. I politely told her why I wouldn't trade. I also don't like sitting next to babies. Most, not all make a racket at some point in the flight. But what I really don't like is sitting anywhere near someone who is sick and coughing. Wow that pisses me off more than just about anything. Hey take some medicine and cover your face, you ass hole.
But more important than all these pet peeves is the fact that flying used to be fun back in the day and it is a god damn pain in the ass now and the fault is mostly with the airlines. They are ass sucking bastards and they don't give a shit about their passengers comfort or repeat business. They only care about maximizing profit on every flight so they design the planes like cattle cars sticking as many passengers on a plane as possible and they construct tight scheduling algorithms to minimize empty seats on every flight. They have it down to a science. And they are always devising new ways to charge their customers ie squeeze more profit per ticket.
I will say this, however, that there is still a palpable difference between the Western Nation Airlines and the Asian Airlines. The Asian National Airlines are better. My preferred way to fly to BKK from Florida, USA is the Euro route because it is a couple of hours shorter duration that the trans Pacific route and because the plane lands in BKK in the morning instead of 9:30 or later in the evening with the Pacific flights. So, I often fly on a United Airlines ticket: Swiss Air MIA to Zurich and then Thai Air to BKK. The difference between flying Swiss Air or any Western country airline and flying Thai Air is amazing. The Thai stewardess are nice and actually try to make passengers comfortable. What a novel approach. 555. On my last trip I flew the Trans Pacific route free with miles on a Delta ticket. Delta was Delta per usual no surprise, but China Eastern Airlines which I flew from BKK to Shanghai on the 1st leg of my return flight was surprisingly nice. Will wonders never cease. But leaving BKK at 2 AM really sucks. Another reason why I don't like the trans Pacific route.
But when I am in Asia I fly all the local Asian carriers, again always with preassigned seating. So as for BKK arrivals and departures, I hate Swampy. Who doesn't? Their immigration lines are outrageous. To make visitors wait in line, sometimes up to an hour just to get their passports stamped so they can enter Thailand and spend money in the local economy is an insult. Compare it to Singapore or even Jakarta immigration. It is unbelievable. I realize I can buy fast track Thai entry. I might do that next trip although I have noticed on numerous entries that the lines are not that bad on the Thai Airlines arrivals from Europe. Anyway, to avoid the long immigration lines I tend to fly Air Asia in and out of DMk a lot for short flights to neighboring Asian countries. Much less hassle at DMK although when you fly that way you are stuck with mostly Air Asia. LOL. You can't win! They won't let you win. 555.
So this is my aviation blues. I hate flying. It used to be fun. It used to be adventurous. Shit, I remember before 9/11 I used to bring weed on board planes and smoke in the plane's bathroom. Hell, I remember when smoking cigarettes was allowed on planes and planes were usually only 75% full. Back then I used to fly Miami to Ams lying down, fully stretched out sleeping in my own entire 4 seat middle row. Those were the days. I would then lay over in AMS for a couple of nights, get stoned in the coffee shops and wander around the red-light district. And then fly off to BKK arriving on a half full plane in the morning BKK time. Nowadays, I don't care what WESTERN airlines you are flying with, it's flying by cattle car. But we put up with it because we don't have much choice and because we know that when we arrive in SE Asia we are actually arriving in the land of milk and honey. But I wonder what the profit margin would be if an Airline began flying a certain number of intercontinental flights charging more money for their tickets obviously, but designing the plane throughout with decent size seats and reasonable space between seats. Would the consumers support such an offering or is the public hooked on so called minimal pricing. I don't know, but it might be an interesting experiment for one Airline to try. Who knows? It might be profitable and then it could catch on.
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06-18-19 02:55 #10588
Posts: 15925Maybe this had something to do with it.
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06-18-19 02:31 #10587
Posts: 286Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
You are missing the point. Three years ago, there was NO fee to select a seat in Economy Class.
It does NOT cost the Airline any extra Dollars to assign seats in advance. This is a ploy to grab more Dollars from the Economy Class passenger.
To be clear, I am only talking about full fare airlines, not Budget Airlines like Air Asia, Ryan Air etc.
As you point out, this does put an additional burden on the Cabin staff.
This excludes United Airlines, where Economy Class Passengers have the same status as garbage.
BKKguru
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06-17-19 23:51 #10586
Posts: 1056Mile High.
Originally Posted by RobJones [View Original Post]
I was assaulted on a plane. Luckily I had one of the crew as witness and got the scum bag arrested (pushed over and then had my face squeezed when passing him). I have changed my MO and fly less often as I find those with entitlement issues to be pains both in the airports and on the planes.
The only upside, as I say, is I get to bone a few crew. And wonder why they put up with all the BS of their horrible job.
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06-17-19 23:36 #10585
Posts: 621Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
As far as protecting my family I will go "Rambo". You do not know my family dynamic's and I will not explain them here so I do take offence that you are quick to judge me and imply that I have some reason to hate Arabs? I actually think Aussies, my nationality are noisier on planes and can't get my earphones on fast enough!
The other passengers did gladly change seats but I do not see that as their responsibility because the airline does have a duty of care and I am sure that extends to more then just taking off, flying properly and landing safely.
In regards to giving others a bad name I haven't had an experience of a mid air punch up so maybe I am not such a big ass hole as you imply.
If you decide to start your own family revisit this situation and tell me you would allow your child to sit next to a total stranger on an overnight flight with the airline telling you to suck it up.
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06-17-19 15:37 #10584
Posts: 6308I still fly KLM because there are the odd flights KLM has that are dirt cheap. One example is Kuala Lumpur to Jakarta in business class with lay flat seats for 3600 baht. Jakarta to KL is slightly more at 4000 baht. Includes 2 free check in and 1 carry on bag. Economy is 1215 baht but with only 1 check in bag and a carry on. Pretty impressive price for a 2+ hour flight.
If other airlines offer true business class at these rates please let me know.
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06-17-19 13:54 #10583
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by Syzygies [View Original Post]
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06-17-19 08:02 #10582
Posts: 12856Originally Posted by BKKguru [View Original Post]
My company once booked me on KLM to USA as was supposedly cheaper. Unfortunately as I was a long time away from home, I had significantly more than the standard luggage allowance and maybe got charged 200 euros for extra luggage, making it not cheap at all. These days I prefer to book flights or hotels myself, or at least specify them, based on my special criteria which is not purely the price, but also flexibility to change, luggage allowance, etc.
For Hotels, proximity to work location and transport is very important. I hate wasting time travelling too much every day.
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06-17-19 08:01 #10581
Posts: 1056Mile High Clubs.
Originally Posted by RobJones [View Original Post]
You, on the other hand, want to go all Rambo straight out of the traps. You sound like one of those guys who object to Arabs or others speaking Arabic on flights and definitely the type of guy who starts trouble and gives mongers a bad name.
If people wish to sit together, they can pay the premium to do that. I've had to sit beside grossly obese people who are so disgustingly fat one seat belt is not enough for them. I've been in punch ups on flights. All the airlinbe wants to do is move passengers from A to be and land in one piece. It is a crap job dealing with ass holes. It's only upside is I get good bonks at a cut price rate out of it.
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06-16-19 23:28 #10580
Posts: 621Originally Posted by BKKguru [View Original Post]
This practice has a lawsuit waiting to happen at the best outcome and a disaster at worst if a child is harmed.
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06-16-19 20:31 #10579
Posts: 303Singapore Airlines is really hard to beat. I love their lounge in Singapore. But I can't always use them. Though I was fortunate enough to use some of the ladies.
I actually like Eva the few times I have flown them. Their prices are great the ladies are not too bad. Years ago, when I tried them, I hooked up with 2 of the ladies. They were unattached so they were able to show me around town.
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06-16-19 16:57 #10578
Posts: 204First time?
Originally Posted by Sydien [View Original Post]
I been to Pattaya off season and saw plenty of pretty ladies so that shouldn't be a worry. Hopefully someone with more experience in both locations can provide more guidance.
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06-16-19 15:02 #10577
Posts: 3056Originally Posted by Syzygies [View Original Post]
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06-16-19 06:18 #10576
Posts: 286Originally Posted by Mogwai [View Original Post]
Lufthansa charges a fee for advance seat assignment (Economy Class only).
There is NO fee if you select the seat 23 hours before departure.
For airlines, this is another revenue opportunity, although much less than the Baggage fee lottery.
BKKguru
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06-16-19 06:07 #10575
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by BananaBoi [View Original Post]
Cathay is about equivalent to Singapore airlines (although Singapore Airlines has hotter stewardesses and is a bit better overall in my opinion, also I like the Singapore airport better than Hong Kong). Eva is good and a favorite of mine since it is cheap as well as good. The bread rolls on Eva are the best on any airline, not that that matters much. I like ANA too, but I don't like the Japanese food they serve. Korean air is also not bad. It does seem I prefer the Asian airlines, but Qatar Air, Emirates, and Etihad are all quite good as well.
All of the US carriers are crap as far as service, leg room, and amenities. I also don't like many of the European airlines. I avoid pretty much all of them including Lufthansa, KLM, British Airways and Air France. The best I have flown out of the European airlines was Swiss air. There are some good airlines in Australia, but the stewardesses are rarely ever attractive. All of the African carriers are crap. Even South African Airways is nothing special. Kenya airways is supposedly one the best in Africa other than South African Airways, but they always lose my luggage. I hear good things about Ethiopian Air, but I have never flown it. I haven't found a South American carrier that I would say is great, but there are some decent ones. When I'm down there, I just pretty much roll the dice and fly whatever has the best flight times.
Of course, all of us probably have a different opinion on the airlines based on personal experiences.