General Reports

[Mr Enternational]

With coronavirus in mind, what's the current attitude of girls towards Chinese or Asians? I'm Chinese-American not that any girl would know that.

Damn right they would not know that. There are millions of Chinese Thai. They would just as well assume you were one of their own until you opened your mouth.

[Syzygies]

Google Maps shows how bad is the traffic for your directions of best route between two places.

To see Bangkok traffic map in general. Try this:

http://traffic.longdo.com/en/

You can even get past flood maps.

I use Longdo Dictionary too, but its only useful to translate Thai to English if you know Thai script. In reverse, there is some Romanised Thai phonetics for English words in the Thai-English-French: Volubilis Dictionary part. However one can see this dictionary is intended for Thai people, or very advanced Thai speakers. Thai-Language.com is good for English speakers.

Volubis http://belisan-volubilis.blog$spot.com/ (remove the dollar sign) provides Excel spreadsheets with Thai, Romanised Thai, English, French. There are top 2000, top 5000, top 10000, and 100 K words / phrases database versions. I am soon to complete study of the top 5000, but am working on Lao / Issan words too. Being forced to speak mainly Thai most days has helped me a lot. The Mrs refuses to speak English to me, but will speak Issan sometimes.

Excel spread-sheets can be fed into Flashcard apps to assist study. Flashcards Deluxe is a really good phone App.

Its not always easy to really like all foreign languages equally. I like Thai, but dislike Issan / Lao, German, Vietnamese, Tagalog, to mention a few I have tried studying. Most languages have some annoying features that we find hard to adapt to. E. g for German its the complex grammar that is annoying, where Thai has the simplest grammar imaginable, perhaps. Issan just sounds much more ugly than Thai. Even the Lao people agree that Thai sounds nicer. Written Lao has spelling more simplified than Thai, even though 90% of Thai words have a regular spelling.

[Syzygies]

Yep, you are spot on. The hysteria is amazing. Great time to come to Thailand as there are very few tourists here. And I would imagine hotel prices across the region will be falling along with airfares.

From past experience, when business goes down, girl prices go up. Counter to all logic ha ha, other than the girl needs more money than usual. I wonder if Hotel prices will really drop?

I would not be put off by the Virus just yet unless becomes quite prevalent in Bangkok. Yet business in Chinese districts in my home country (with few virus cases) has been decimated. A shopping centre food court is doing very badly.

My times of sickness are usually directly following international flights, so that is the risk for me for lots of viruses, even if not flying out of China.

I agree with the writer who points out that there are still far bigger risks in Bangkok, than the virus, such as crossing the road, being on a motorcycle, being struck by lightning, salmonella, botulism, even legionaires disease maybe.

[HorseTrader]

Yep, you are spot on. The hysteria is amazing. Great time to come to Thailand as there are very few tourists here. And I would imagine hotel prices across the region will be falling along with airfares.

I'm still home but will start my journey tomorrow. I made airline reservations in early November and paid $2250 round trip. Same seats for same dates has varied quite a bit since I purchased. Same ticket was down to $1450 in late November and up to $2900 in mid-December. About 5 days ago price had again dropped to $1450 for a short time and quickly back to $2250. I can't figure out when airline prices will be high or low.

Hotel prices at my destinations are a bit more expensive than I paid through Hotels.com in November.

[Gargano19]

With coronavirus in mind, what's the current attitude of girls towards Chinese or Asians? I'm Chinese-American not that any girl would know that. Haven't stepped foot on Mainland China in many years and have no desire to again. Are massage places going to reject me at the door? Will outcall escorts turn away when I open the door?

I have American Chinese friend who live in Pattaya and he is having no problem. Ofcourse other mongers and some girls get cautious when they see him in bar, but no massage shop has sent him away, yet. As far as outcall escort, I think you should make it clear before booking that you're American-chinese but not from wuhan region, to avoid any confusion later on.

[MassageFun]

With coronavirus in mind, what's the current attitude of girls towards Chinese or Asians? I'm Chinese-American not that any girl would know that. Haven't stepped foot on Mainland China in many years and have no desire to again. Are massage places going to reject me at the door? Will outcall escorts turn away when I open the door?

No not at all I British born Chinese and I have no issues. Benn in BKK for 1 week all is fine.

[Applesauce]

With coronavirus in mind, what's the current attitude of girls towards Chinese or Asians? I'm Chinese-American not that any girl would know that. Haven't stepped foot on Mainland China in many years and have no desire to again. Are massage places going to reject me at the door? Will outcall escorts turn away when I open the door?

[Goatscrot]

It's surprising how one's perspective goes out of the window when the news coverage is so intense and emotive. 60 people die on Thai roads every day. This is a substantially higher rate than the death rate from nCoV across the whole of China (current total 259), and no-one has so far died outside China. Yet nobody says "I'm not coming to Thailand because the roads are unsafe".

I have a trip to Pattaya booked in 2 weeks time. I'm not cancelling unless the situation in Thailand spirals dramatically. And I'm looking forward to less Chinese roaming the streets.

Yep, you are spot on. The hysteria is amazing. Great time to come to Thailand as there are very few tourists here. And I would imagine hotel prices across the region will be falling along with airfares.

[Franciscass]

If you are in a car accident in Thailand you yourself are injured. But if you carry the nCoV home with you there is a risk of infecting your family, friends, acquaintances, and work colleagues. Not to mention the people you come in contact with during transit.

SL.

With respect I feel you are missing the point Roberto was making. Yes of course if you contact any transmittable condition including incidentally STD'S you are a carrier with the possibility of infecting others. However the likelihood of contacting the corona virus pales into insignificance when compared to the chances of being killed or seriously injured on Thailand's roads and yet this is rarely mentioned or even considered when deciding to holiday here. It's a matter of perspective and balance and the hysteria coming from the way the media is covering the outbreak is wholly over sensationalized. This is in no way to dismiss or trivialise the hundreds of deaths in China but we are talking hundreds in a country of 1,300,000 000 people many of whom would probably have died from underlying medical problems anyhow.

[Sunlover2]

It's surprising how one's perspective goes out of the window when the news coverage is so intense and emotive. 60 people die on Thai roads every day. This is a substantially higher rate than the death rate from nCoV across the whole of China (current total 259), and no-one has so far died outside China. Yet nobody says "I'm not coming to Thailand because the roads are unsafe".

If you are in a car accident in Thailand you yourself are injured. But if you carry the nCoV home with you there is a risk of infecting your family, friends, acquaintances, and work colleagues. Not to mention the people you come in contact with during transit.

SL.

[Macho Dik]

Due to the outbreaks, specially Thailand has a lot of Chinese tourist even before the outbreaks become pandemic, so at this present period how many taxi drivers, bar girls, hotel staff have been infected? Nobody knows, the incubation period tooks at 14 days so known outbreaks in China began (officially) January 23rd then its not known how many Thais are already got infected? Specially bar girls, massage girls that come in close contact with any Chinese man during those periods.

So scary, thinking of postponing my trip this month to BKK.

Cheers,

MD.

[Turgid]

You guys should read the German FKK forums. Comedic. There is talk there to ban ALL Asians from FKK clubs. For those who don't know, some of the most popular FKK clubs like Sharks has a ton of Asian customers, mainly from USA and Japan.

I am in Frankfurt now and the girls would certainly object to such a ban. The Asian hunters as they are called are very busy chasing after the Asian punters. I have seen it for myself.

[JRoberto]

It's surprising how one's perspective goes out of the window when the news coverage is so intense and emotive. 60 people die on Thai roads every day. This is a substantially higher rate than the death rate from nCoV across the whole of China (current total 259), and no-one has so far died outside China. Yet nobody says "I'm not coming to Thailand because the roads are unsafe".

I have a trip to Pattaya booked in 2 weeks time. I'm not cancelling unless the situation in Thailand spirals dramatically. And I'm looking forward to less Chinese roaming the streets.

[Member #4698]

I was going to stay here throughout February and then go over to Cambodia, but I'm leaving tomorrow. Mongering scene is horrible in Siem Reap but the air is clean, there's plenty of weed and stuff to take photos of and luxury condos are one-third the price of Bangkok. Hell, I have 10 km of carvings in anchor to photo. I'll come back to Bangkok when this all dies down.

The Angkor Wat Archaeological Park is amazing and Siem Reap as a town is actually nicer IMHO than Chain Mai plus this time of year it has cleaner air. But as you note, from a mongering perspective, nothing much is happening. Ha Ha. A week is about as much as I would care to spend there. So if you are at all like me and don't want to go too long without girls, ha ha, you will have to go to Phnom Penh sooner or later for quality boom boom.

I like Phnom and I like Khmer girls. I think they are sweet and kind of funky, but I think you will find the same China risks there in Phnom that you find in BKK and Pat. Up to you how you want to respond to that. Personally I think at this stage the virus outside of China is mostly news hype, although it might become serious and bears close monitoring for sure. So at this moment I would avoid China, HKG, and Macau, but that is all. I also think that even in non-eventful years, the worst time of the year to be in BKK or Pat is Dec / Jan. High Season. Things will get better, a lot better by April / May, but if I am wrong, like I said previously, I am prepared to jump ship and head to Sao Paulo. E tudo de bom!

[Nyezhov]

It looks like most airlines have now suspended flights from China. This should of been done 2 weeks ago. Thailand is up to 19 confirmed cases with the most recent being the first human-to-human transmission of the coronavirus to occur inside LOS after a local Thai taxi driver was apparently infected by a Chinese traveller. Still, the suspension of all flights should do it ie contain the virus to China and keep Thailand safe.

https://www.businessinsider.com/airlines-canceling-changing-flights-to-china-amid-coronavirus-fears-2020-1

Whether there are only 19 cases here and my mind is subject to debate. You know as well as I do how the Thai government operates. I was going to stay here throughout February and then go over to Cambodia, but I'm leaving tomorrow. Mongering scene is horrible in Siem Reap but the air is clean, there's plenty of weed and stuff to take photos of and luxury condos are one-third the price of Bangkok. Hell, I have 10 km of carvings in anchor to photo. I'll come back to Bangkok when this all dies down.