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  1. #12373
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBigMan  [View Original Post]
    GUILTY FEEL LIKE SHIT!
    LBM,

    It is only natural to feel real bad about what happened to your friend. But you are not guilty of anything. In fact you stood tall and helped the family out in their time of real need. The guilty people are management of the company that manufactures & sells such dangerous products. You can bet your last baht that this was not the first time their product malfunctioned, exploded and hurt someone.

    I have a long time American female friend that was a front seat passenger in an auto accident. Some asshole ran a stop sign and plowed into her side of the vehicle she was riding in. She suffered internal injuries. After 3 operations she is still not completely well. Shit happens to good people!

    I hope your friend fully recovers.

  2. #12372
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Wow. That is fucked up. I used to always have those thoughts when I would buy the Chinese batteries off ebay for Samsung. They seemed to be thicker than the original. I was thinking those mfs may overheat and explode or whatever. Are there any phones these days that you can remove the battery without the proper tools and know-how? Maybe they no longer make them that way for this very reason.
    It may have been a cheap charger without the intelligence shut off features. Without the shut off feature on the cp or charger the battery keeps charging and will overheat. The overheating will cause the battery to expand and quite possibly explode.

    I have seen many expanded cp batteries from cheaper cp chargers. Once the battery is bloated it is best to throw it away.

    Other thing to be aware of is to not mismatch chargers with the cp. Most cp will charge at 1 amp. The Samsung charger will charge at 2.0+ amp. Using a Samsung charger on another cp can overheat the battery. If your cp feels warm or hot from charging then you are using the wrong charger.

  3. #12371
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBigMan  [View Original Post]
    GUILTY FEEL LIKE SHIT!
    It's a shitty situation, and anybody would feel like shit, but you're not guilty of anything. No more guilty than someone who gifted a car in which someone proceeded to have an accident due to a mechanical problem. If anything, it's the shop that should have spotted the problem, if you paid them to check it. Shit happens, and it's rather nasty shit in this case, but certainly not your fault.

  4. #12370
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBigMan  [View Original Post]
    I responded back and the next message shocks me to the core and I'm not easily shocked? The message " my mother has been in the hospital for 4 days the phone I gave her the battery exploded in her face "
    Wow. That is fucked up. I used to always have those thoughts when I would buy the Chinese batteries off ebay for Samsung. They seemed to be thicker than the original. I was thinking those mfs may overheat and explode or whatever. Are there any phones these days that you can remove the battery without the proper tools and know-how? Maybe they no longer make them that way for this very reason.

  5. #12369
    Quote Originally Posted by Franciscass  [View Original Post]
    Yup got to be true, I read it in that most credible of UK tabloids the Daily Star.
    Sir Patrick Vallance warns Brits could still be wearing face masks next winter because it will 'take quite a long time' to vaccinate everyone and jabs might not stop the virus spreading.

    The chief scientific adviser said people must still follow social distancing rules.

    No proof that vaccination will stop people transmitting the coronavirus.

    Studies have only proven so far that jabs can prevent Covid-19 disease.

    Britain today became the first country in the world to vaccinate citizens.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nce-warns.html

  6. #12368
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBigMan  [View Original Post]
    .....I responded back and the next message shocks me to the core and I'm not easily shocked? The message " my mother has been in the hospital for 4 days the phone I gave her the battery exploded in her face " of course the thing that crosses my mind and when I told my coffee buddies all said " scam " .......
    To my instincts the very first thing I would have done before anything else would have been to go see her.

  7. #12367

    Guilt getting it off my chest!

    This report continues from a post I made on the Bangkok Thread.

    As I noted I've known this Thai woman for a long time in our meeting in Bangkok it was agreed I would give her my old cell phone it was checked by the shop and all green lights were given. Even my brother's kids play with it while I was visiting, the night before I checked it again before placing it in the box and into my backpack. When I saw her the next day I pulled it out of the box and put the battery, turn it on and went through all the features then change the language to Thai. It all went back into the box since she didn't have her True sim card didn't notice it then because I'm not very techno about phones I was wondering why when putting in the battery then putting the cover on it didn't seem to fit the same not very tight? She told me if necessary she would put a rubber band over the phone she was just grateful to have a phone now basically something was better than nothing having to borrow her friend's phone not being able to talk to her sons etc.

    The next morning she got up early took a shower put the phone in her purse I got her a taxi to Mo-Chit to try to catch the first van out to her village I felt bad didn't know it was a 4 plus hour ride since the van stops and pick up and drop off riders throughout her trip. As noted in my Bangkok post since she got into the taxi I felt something come over me like a rain cloud something just didn't feel right. Hours later when I didn't hear from her I started to worry but I just wrote it off as me being paranoid? Days went by I didn't hear anything, not like her when I tried her friends' phone there was no answer but her friend would see my number and tell her I called thereafter I get a callback but this time nothing. By now 5 days have gone by but I just figure Thai style but I was hoping for the best inside?

    Now it is Sunday, Dec 6th, I was having my usual morning coffee with my ex-pat group next thing I get a translated message on my phone asking me if I was a friend of his mother. I responded back and the next message shocks me to the core and I'm not easily shocked? The message " my mother has been in the hospital for 4 days the phone I gave her the battery exploded in her face " of course the thing that crosses my mind and when I told my coffee buddies all said " scam " I wasn't born yesterday I've known this girl for 10 years although she was a hardened BG she has never shown that kind of behavior or side of her to scam me. Back and forth the messages finally the son tries to call me but my limited Thai we weren't connecting it was actually better although slower to use their translation program which I thought wasn't bad. Basically, although she is under the government health care program this particular procedure wasn't she was scarred badly and possibly blind she needed an operation for both the cost was 80,000 baht. Although shocked and very concerned I was thinking of money naturally so I turn to a few guys who I knew were Thai but raised in the States and spoke Thai and English well.

    Back and forth with the son in the end the son wasn't asking me for 80,000 nor blaming me directly and I was liable that they needed 80,000 for the operation he and his brother could raise only 68,000 their backs were up against the wall the friend mentioned me and my number was on her phone that I might be able to help out with the rest there is no doubt also that I gave her the phone. It just happened that the call was made on my Thai friend I-Pad which was a video that enables me to verify that it wasn't some scam the son even ask the Doctor to speak to us. No matter what I wasn't going to make a bad situation into a pissing contest by asking more questions if it was a scam I told the son I would gladly cover the difference. I placed the amount into her mother's account and they proceeded with the necessary operation. Right now the last message I got her mother is badly scarred and her eyesight might never return if lucky 50%.

    Her mother after the operation is heavily sedated and very upset wishes to die doesn't understand why so many bad things happen to her? The last year her mothers pass away in July she gets into a bad motorbike operation hospitalized for a broken arm that required pins and months of rehab just when things were getting better and the rainy season over with the flooding in her village over she was starting to be able to sell her second-hand clothes out of the trunk of her old car now this! The latest message from the son was to thank me for the money adding he felt this was his fault if he had only purchased a phone for his mother this wouldn't have happened to her.

    I've met the two of the son when they were young they are good kids I responded it is no one fault how does anyone know this would happen. It was checked several times I wonder if it had gone off when my brother's kids were playing with it or even when we were together in Bangkok in the room it had gone off?

    GUILTY FEEL LIKE SHIT!

  8. #12366
    Quote Originally Posted by Berrys66  [View Original Post]
    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...unity-23118841

    Coronavirus vaccine may only give people immunity for 90 days, say scientists.

    The government's scientific advisors have suggested immunity may last 90 days, however in a study they explained a high proportion of people are likely to get immunity.

    The coronavirus vaccine may give people immunity from the bug for 90 days, according to scientists.

    Research conducted by the government's scientific advisors suggests vaccine immunity is not fully understood.

    In a paper published by the New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group, experts say the duration of "natural or vaccine induced immunity is not yet fully understood".
    Yup got to be true, I read it in that most credible of UK tabloids the Daily Star.

  9. #12365

    Tabloid headlines are misleading

    Quote Originally Posted by Berrys66  [View Original Post]
    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...unity-23118841

    The coronavirus vaccine may give people immunity from the bug for 90 days, according to scientists.
    As someone who works in the field, that tabloid headline is not technically false, but very misleading.

    They're saying it provides immunity for 90 days because 90 days of data is all they have. Researchers cover their asses when speaking to the media, so they won't say the vaccine provides immunity beyond what the current data tells them. Expect the length of immunity to go up as time drags on and they get more data on its efficiency.

  10. #12364
    Quote Originally Posted by Berrys66  [View Original Post]
    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...unity-23118841

    Coronavirus vaccine may only give people immunity for 90 days, say scientists.

    The government's scientific advisors have suggested immunity may last 90 days, however in a study they explained a high proportion of people are likely to get immunity.

    The coronavirus vaccine may give people immunity from the bug for 90 days, according to scientists.

    Research conducted by the government's scientific advisors suggests vaccine immunity is not fully understood.

    In a paper published by the New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group, experts say the duration of "natural or vaccine induced immunity is not yet fully understood".
    I think you should go back and read the article carefully again.

  11. #12363

    Who really knows

    Quote Originally Posted by Berrys66  [View Original Post]
    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...unity-23118841

    The coronavirus vaccine may give people immunity from the bug for 90 days, according to scientists.
    Wow, 90 days, kool the virus has a calendar and know how to keep time and so convenient that it is a nice round number. Are you sure it is not 3 months? Oh! But then not all months have 30 days.

    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...ffect-13712990

  12. #12362
    Quote Originally Posted by TConor  [View Original Post]
    You are so full of it. Don't spread fake news, please. They do not know 10% of total knowledge. Can it be spread from those with vaccine or not? No one knows that and a 100 other questions.

    What pisses me off is after the elderly, health care workers, and first responders, who should get in line next. The f'ing liberal have a plan to reward those whose poor behavior has put the world in this situation. This is not an ethnically transmitted virus, so race color, or creed should not be part of the equation.
    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...unity-23118841

    The coronavirus vaccine may give people immunity from the bug for 90 days, according to scientists.

  13. #12361

    90 days

    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...unity-23118841

    Coronavirus vaccine may only give people immunity for 90 days, say scientists.

    The government's scientific advisors have suggested immunity may last 90 days, however in a study they explained a high proportion of people are likely to get immunity.

    The coronavirus vaccine may give people immunity from the bug for 90 days, according to scientists.

    Research conducted by the government's scientific advisors suggests vaccine immunity is not fully understood.

    In a paper published by the New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group, experts say the duration of "natural or vaccine induced immunity is not yet fully understood".

  14. #12360
    Quote Originally Posted by TConor  [View Original Post]
    You are so full of it. Don't spread fake news, please. They do not know 10% of total knowledge. Can it be spread from those with vaccine or not? No one knows that and a 100 other questions.

    What pisses me off is after the elderly, health care workers, and first responders, who should get in line next. The f'ing liberal have a plan to reward those whose poor behavior has put the world in this situation. This is not an ethnically transmitted virus, so race color, or creed should not be part of the equation.
    This 3 month efficacy is most likely being peddled by the anti-vaxers and can be filed alongside the conspiracy that Bill Gates wants to use vaccines to implant microchips in people. Back in the real world as I understand it the vaccine does not stop you from becoming infected. What it does is 95% of the time prevent the virus from spreading and becoming a disease so for me the real question becomes whether a vaccinated person who contracts covid can still be a transmitter. If essentially a vaccine only protects the person vaccinated it means a vaccination certificate is not a free pass and presumably visitors would still need an accompanying recent negative test. Hopefully the data will eventually show vaccinated persons cannot transmit the virus and are safe to travel freely. That would indeed be a game changer. At the end of the day It may be that in order to get back to some semblance of normality the answer lies in inoculating a sufficient number of people generally understood to be 70% of the population to get to herd immunity which would then be sufficient to accept a level of infection that can be effectively treated and contained.

  15. #12359
    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio  [View Original Post]
    If vaccine is only effective for three months no one would get it.
    Don't speak for everyone else.

    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio  [View Original Post]
    If it's only good for three months and a person can still spread disease it's a totally worthless vaccine for most. And most Americans would refuse to take it. It would be seen as only for money and would push conspiracy theories.
    Why do you want to start a conspiracy theory here?

    For one noone knows how long it'll be effective, nor how often it'll require a dose and how much of a dose to repeat its validity.
    While for most coronavirus, antibodies usually remain detectable 3 months after contagion it doesn't mean it will be the case for vaccination.
    Most of all, you have to keep in mind that lack of antibody detection does not mean you're not immune as when exposed again to the virus, your body will have remembered this virus and will have a fast response of generating new antibodies in mass.

    If we find out the vaccine only protects its hosts and does not prevent spreading it to others, it does not make the vaccine worthless.
    It just means the vaccine will have to be given to old people and younger people with a side condition (over weight, diabetes, etc.) as it will lower their risk from developping a deadly or damaging version of the covid.

    That is surelly not worthless since it means people get to live a normal life without seeing 2 to 3000 dead per day as the US currently faces.

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