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  1. #12359
    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio  [View Original Post]
    If vaccine is only effective for three months no one would get it.
    Don't speak for everyone else.

    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio  [View Original Post]
    If it's only good for three months and a person can still spread disease it's a totally worthless vaccine for most. And most Americans would refuse to take it. It would be seen as only for money and would push conspiracy theories.
    Why do you want to start a conspiracy theory here?

    For one noone knows how long it'll be effective, nor how often it'll require a dose and how much of a dose to repeat its validity.
    While for most coronavirus, antibodies usually remain detectable 3 months after contagion it doesn't mean it will be the case for vaccination.
    Most of all, you have to keep in mind that lack of antibody detection does not mean you're not immune as when exposed again to the virus, your body will have remembered this virus and will have a fast response of generating new antibodies in mass.

    If we find out the vaccine only protects its hosts and does not prevent spreading it to others, it does not make the vaccine worthless.
    It just means the vaccine will have to be given to old people and younger people with a side condition (over weight, diabetes, etc.) as it will lower their risk from developping a deadly or damaging version of the covid.

    That is surelly not worthless since it means people get to live a normal life without seeing 2 to 3000 dead per day as the US currently faces.

  2. #12358

    First New Tourist I've Met Lately

    I just met a tourist on the new or latest requirements last night in Nana Plaza, the first I have met since the lockdowns and tentative reopenings.

    From the USA. About 30-35 years old I'd say. He said this was his first night of freedom after being released from the 14 day hotel quaratine that he spent in a hotel near Victory Monument and could I recommend any of these go-go bars. LOL.

    I really didn't have time to chat much beyond the info I am sharing here now since I was on my way out of Nana Plaza as he was just arriving around 9pm. Just passing it along.

  3. #12357

    We need a covid Thailand discussion board.

    If vaccine is only effective for three months no one would get it. If it's only good for three months and a person can still spread disease it's a totally worthless vaccine for most. And most Americans would refuse to take it. It would be seen as only for money and would push conspiracy theories.

    Quote Originally Posted by TConor  [View Original Post]
    You are so full of it. Don't spread fake news, please. They do not know 10% of total knowledge. Can it be spread from those with vaccine or not? No one knows that and a 100 other questions.

    What pisses me off is after the elderly, health care workers, and first responders, who should get in line next. The f'ing liberal have a plan to reward those whose poor behavior has put the world in this situation. This is not an ethnically transmitted virus, so race color, or creed should not be part of the equation.

  4. #12356

    Hello Dr. Berry

    Quote Originally Posted by Berrys66  [View Original Post]
    Vaccine is only expected to work for 3 months and then its not known what will happen after that time. , will there be herd immunity or do you need more jabs is unknown.
    You are so full of it. Don't spread fake news, please. They do not know 10% of total knowledge. Can it be spread from those with vaccine or not? No one knows that and a 100 other questions.

    What pisses me off is after the elderly, health care workers, and first responders, who should get in line next. The f'ing liberal have a plan to reward those whose poor behavior has put the world in this situation. This is not an ethnically transmitted virus, so race color, or creed should not be part of the equation.

  5. #12355
    Quote Originally Posted by Berrys66  [View Original Post]
    Vaccine is only expected to work for 3 months and then its not known what will happen after that time. , will there be herd immunity or do you need more jabs is unknown.
    I doubt that is the case in fact I would be surprise to hear any medical professional even suggest with the data available with previous data on other vaccines or even flu shots? The progression for the development takes stages (3?) that takes months in this case (warp speed) in past cases years and requires thousand being tested during these stages after development they don't just forget these people they are required to be constantly tested in stages for the next two year which I believe is the case now if the current vaccine just developed only expected to work 3 months I believe that information would be clearly out by now.

    I believe recently there was an interview with Dr. Faci, a very similar question was asked " how long " certainly there was no indication that it is expected to work only 3 months although his answer was vague for me I came away 10-12 months depending on the individuals and past history might be even longer time will only tell but 3 months?

  6. #12354

    Only works for 90 days

    Vaccine is only expected to work for 3 months and then its not known what will happen after that time. , will there be herd immunity or do you need more jabs is unknown.

  7. #12353

    Today AmericanPi*Regular Member in London Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunlover2  [View Original Post]
    Not sure where that came from. I have dozens of trips to Holland under my belt. As for tourist traps: I never experienced any in the NL, but they likely exist wherever mongering exist. Hazard of the hobby...
    ¨This makes me want to put out my top five!!

    But I'm not going to do them and rank order; I'm going to explain that you get different experiences at different places. You can't compare a seafood restaurant to a steak restaurant. It depends on what you want to eat that night.

    - London. The incall game at divas is expensive and worth it. Plus you get a world class city to spend time.

    - Tijuana. It's raunchy and dirty. I would not fly to get here, but if you live in California, it's well worth it. The food and beer scene is amazing. This is like the mongers version of bad tv. It has its place in your life.

    - German FKK. It's not the best experience, but it's an experience you have to have. Like a Vegas buffet. You're not mad you did it, but you don't necessarily want to do it all the time.

    - Montreal- very attractive European-ish girls for when you can't get to Europe. City is decent.

    - Spain. Wide range of girls to choose from, and great cities (barca and Madrid) to enjoy food and culture.

    And the sh*t list.

    - Amsterdam. Just not a very interesting city, and the monger game is contrived and forced. This is like going to Vegas for culture. ¨.

  8. #12352

    My two Cents

    How the vaccines will play into future policy allowing visitors back into Thailand I feel right now nobody knows. I live here so personally I admit to be selfish but also happy with the current zero tolerance policy and if the polling is to be believed so also are most Thais. The recent uproar surrounding the infected working girls sneaking back in from Tachileik presumably to avoid quarantine shows the level of concern of even a handful of infections. That said if they want to get the economy back on tract and the millions suffering hardship back to work they need to change their mindset and use the vaccines as a way to do this. For those missing Thailand hopefully it will happen but if all they do is add vaccination certificates to the already burdensome list of requirements, special visas, quarantine, negative tests, fit to fly certificates, insurance and so on 2021 will sadly look no different than 2020. Just have to wait and see I guess.

  9. #12351

    Lol

    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    This is how it's going to work once the vaccine becomes widely available: no vaccine certification. No flying on any major airline, no room at any 4 & 5 star hotel, and even many restaurants, shopping malls, and office buildings will choose to deny access to people without proper vaccine certification.
    I hear China is already working overtime printing vaccination certificates. LOL.

  10. #12350

    Never say never

    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    This is how it's going to work once the vaccine becomes widely available: no vaccine certification. No flying on any major airline, no room at any 4 & 5 star hotel, and even many restaurants, shopping malls, and office buildings will choose to deny access to people without proper vaccine certification.
    We learned that lesson in2020, but this glass is a little too half full. Ever hear of money?

  11. #12349
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    THAILAND WILL REMAIN CLOSED TO TOURISTS UNTIL AT LEAST March NEXT YEAR, ACCORDING TO THE COUNTRY'S TOURISM MINISTER.

    The announcement means tourist visas besides the new Tourist Visa (TR) and Special Tourist Visa (STV) will be on hold for now, thwarting hopes of a turnaround in the 2020-2021 season.

    https://www.travelweekly.com.au/arti...rch-next-year/
    You talking 2021?

  12. #12348
    THAILAND WILL REMAIN CLOSED TO TOURISTS UNTIL AT LEAST March NEXT YEAR, ACCORDING TO THE COUNTRY'S TOURISM MINISTER.

    The announcement means tourist visas besides the new Tourist Visa (TR) and Special Tourist Visa (STV) will be on hold for now, thwarting hopes of a turnaround in the 2020-2021 season.

    https://www.travelweekly.com.au/arti...rch-next-year/

  13. #12347
    Quote Originally Posted by Nixonbd  [View Original Post]
    Better to get the vaccine, than to not.
    This is how it's going to work once the vaccine becomes widely available: no vaccine certification. No flying on any major airline, no room at any 4 & 5 star hotel, and even many restaurants, shopping malls, and office buildings will choose to deny access to people without proper vaccine certification.

  14. #12346
    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio  [View Original Post]
    My hope was to get vacine in summer and go to Thailand but this news may mean that's not going to happen. Thailand residents would need to be vaccinated.

    https://thehill.com/news-by-subject/...it-virus-after
    Maybe vaccinated people can transmit, maybe not. At this point that is an unknown. That question will be answered after a good portion of a population has been vaccinated. I doubt there is a practical way to answer that question any sooner. Because of this and other unknowns, the Thai government will have reasons to maintain travel restrictions beyond just certification that tourists have been vaccinated.

  15. #12345
    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio  [View Original Post]
    My hope was to get vacine in summer and go to Thailand but this news may mean that's not going to happen. Thailand residents would need to be vaccinated.

    https://thehill.com/news-by-subject/...it-virus-after
    Better to get the vaccine, than to not.

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