General Reports

[Horatio]

If vaccine is only effective for three months no one would get it. If it's only good for three months and a person can still spread disease it's a totally worthless vaccine for most. And most Americans would refuse to take it. It would be seen as only for money and would push conspiracy theories.

You are so full of it. Don't spread fake news, please. They do not know 10% of total knowledge. Can it be spread from those with vaccine or not? No one knows that and a 100 other questions.

What pisses me off is after the elderly, health care workers, and first responders, who should get in line next. The f'ing liberal have a plan to reward those whose poor behavior has put the world in this situation. This is not an ethnically transmitted virus, so race color, or creed should not be part of the equation.

[TConor]

Vaccine is only expected to work for 3 months and then its not known what will happen after that time. , will there be herd immunity or do you need more jabs is unknown.

You are so full of it. Don't spread fake news, please. They do not know 10% of total knowledge. Can it be spread from those with vaccine or not? No one knows that and a 100 other questions.

What pisses me off is after the elderly, health care workers, and first responders, who should get in line next. The f'ing liberal have a plan to reward those whose poor behavior has put the world in this situation. This is not an ethnically transmitted virus, so race color, or creed should not be part of the equation.

[LittleBigMan]

Vaccine is only expected to work for 3 months and then its not known what will happen after that time. , will there be herd immunity or do you need more jabs is unknown.

I doubt that is the case in fact I would be surprise to hear any medical professional even suggest with the data available with previous data on other vaccines or even flu shots? The progression for the development takes stages (3?) that takes months in this case (warp speed) in past cases years and requires thousand being tested during these stages after development they don't just forget these people they are required to be constantly tested in stages for the next two year which I believe is the case now if the current vaccine just developed only expected to work 3 months I believe that information would be clearly out by now.

I believe recently there was an interview with Dr. Faci, a very similar question was asked " how long " certainly there was no indication that it is expected to work only 3 months although his answer was vague for me I came away 10-12 months depending on the individuals and past history might be even longer time will only tell but 3 months?

[Berrys66]

Vaccine is only expected to work for 3 months and then its not known what will happen after that time. , will there be herd immunity or do you need more jabs is unknown.

[Turgid]

Not sure where that came from. I have dozens of trips to Holland under my belt. As for tourist traps: I never experienced any in the NL, but they likely exist wherever mongering exist. Hazard of the hobby...

¨This makes me want to put out my top five!!

But I'm not going to do them and rank order; I'm going to explain that you get different experiences at different places. You can't compare a seafood restaurant to a steak restaurant. It depends on what you want to eat that night.

- London. The incall game at divas is expensive and worth it. Plus you get a world class city to spend time.

- Tijuana. It's raunchy and dirty. I would not fly to get here, but if you live in California, it's well worth it. The food and beer scene is amazing. This is like the mongers version of bad tv. It has its place in your life.

- German FKK. It's not the best experience, but it's an experience you have to have. Like a Vegas buffet. You're not mad you did it, but you don't necessarily want to do it all the time.

- Montreal- very attractive European-ish girls for when you can't get to Europe. City is decent.

- Spain. Wide range of girls to choose from, and great cities (barca and Madrid) to enjoy food and culture.

And the sh*t list.

- Amsterdam. Just not a very interesting city, and the monger game is contrived and forced. This is like going to Vegas for culture. ¨.

[Franciscass]

How the vaccines will play into future policy allowing visitors back into Thailand I feel right now nobody knows. I live here so personally I admit to be selfish but also happy with the current zero tolerance policy and if the polling is to be believed so also are most Thais. The recent uproar surrounding the infected working girls sneaking back in from Tachileik presumably to avoid quarantine shows the level of concern of even a handful of infections. That said if they want to get the economy back on tract and the millions suffering hardship back to work they need to change their mindset and use the vaccines as a way to do this. For those missing Thailand hopefully it will happen but if all they do is add vaccination certificates to the already burdensome list of requirements, special visas, quarantine, negative tests, fit to fly certificates, insurance and so on 2021 will sadly look no different than 2020. Just have to wait and see I guess.

[AggieDad1]

This is how it's going to work once the vaccine becomes widely available: no vaccine certification. No flying on any major airline, no room at any 4 & 5 star hotel, and even many restaurants, shopping malls, and office buildings will choose to deny access to people without proper vaccine certification.

I hear China is already working overtime printing vaccination certificates. LOL.

[TConor]

This is how it's going to work once the vaccine becomes widely available: no vaccine certification. No flying on any major airline, no room at any 4 & 5 star hotel, and even many restaurants, shopping malls, and office buildings will choose to deny access to people without proper vaccine certification.

We learned that lesson in2020, but this glass is a little too half full. Ever hear of money?

[LittleBigMan]

THAILAND WILL REMAIN CLOSED TO TOURISTS UNTIL AT LEAST March NEXT YEAR, ACCORDING TO THE COUNTRY'S TOURISM MINISTER.

The announcement means tourist visas besides the new Tourist Visa (TR) and Special Tourist Visa (STV) will be on hold for now, thwarting hopes of a turnaround in the 2020-2021 season.

https://www.travelweekly.com.au/arti...rch-next-year/

You talking 2021?

[Mr Enternational]

THAILAND WILL REMAIN CLOSED TO TOURISTS UNTIL AT LEAST March NEXT YEAR, ACCORDING TO THE COUNTRY'S TOURISM MINISTER.

The announcement means tourist visas besides the new Tourist Visa (TR) and Special Tourist Visa (STV) will be on hold for now, thwarting hopes of a turnaround in the 2020-2021 season.

https://www.travelweekly.com.au/arti...rch-next-year/

[Member #4698]

Better to get the vaccine, than to not.

This is how it's going to work once the vaccine becomes widely available: no vaccine certification. No flying on any major airline, no room at any 4 & 5 star hotel, and even many restaurants, shopping malls, and office buildings will choose to deny access to people without proper vaccine certification.

[HorseTrader]

My hope was to get vacine in summer and go to Thailand but this news may mean that's not going to happen. Thailand residents would need to be vaccinated.

https://thehill.com/news-by-subject/...it-virus-after

Maybe vaccinated people can transmit, maybe not. At this point that is an unknown. That question will be answered after a good portion of a population has been vaccinated. I doubt there is a practical way to answer that question any sooner. Because of this and other unknowns, the Thai government will have reasons to maintain travel restrictions beyond just certification that tourists have been vaccinated.

[Nixonbd]

My hope was to get vacine in summer and go to Thailand but this news may mean that's not going to happen. Thailand residents would need to be vaccinated.

https://thehill.com/news-by-subject/...it-virus-after

Better to get the vaccine, than to not.

[Member #4698]

I assume everyone knows that if they say the vaccine is 95% effective it doesn't mean that the vaccine cures 95% of the people who have COVID. It only means that it reduces your chance of getting COVID by 95%.

This is a critical point. It means that virgin countries like LOS with quarantine measures in place are going to be very reluctant to open their borders even to vaccinated travelers until a significant percentage of their own population has been inoculated. This may postpone travel to Thailand for most of 2021. I sincerely hope I am wrong.

On the subject of store front girls in AMS (I used to lay over in AMS on my way to BKK a lot when there were Martin Air nonstop flites to AMS): the best looking AMS girl I ever had was a Russian (she was a solid 8* but the best service was with a Australian girl and a Dutch girl. I repeated twice with both girls. I also had many Romanian girls and one Thai girl in AMS.

I really used to enjoy walking around the AMS RLD's high on Nederhash (55% thc) joints. That made up for the fact that my AMS storefront sessions were usually not nearly as good as what I was going to get in BKK a few days later. I hear the Dutch are no longer so THC friendly as they once were. Oh well. It is a fond memory I have from back in the day (1996 to 2010).

[Ed Setra]

Interesting that's only 230 baht per dose. Seems rather cheap.

Pfizer BioNtec vac will be priced around $20 per dose, Moderna about twice that and the Oxford version less than $5. J&J version will be around $10 and the one from Novavax will be around $16.

Seems they overpaid.