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[Member #4698]

I assume everyone knows that if they say the vaccine is 95% effective it doesn't mean that the vaccine cures 95% of the people who have COVID. It only means that it reduces your chance of getting COVID by 95%.

This is a critical point. It means that virgin countries like LOS with quarantine measures in place are going to be very reluctant to open their borders even to vaccinated travelers until a significant percentage of their own population has been inoculated. This may postpone travel to Thailand for most of 2021. I sincerely hope I am wrong.

On the subject of store front girls in AMS (I used to lay over in AMS on my way to BKK a lot when there were Martin Air nonstop flites to AMS): the best looking AMS girl I ever had was a Russian (she was a solid 8* but the best service was with a Australian girl and a Dutch girl. I repeated twice with both girls. I also had many Romanian girls and one Thai girl in AMS.

I really used to enjoy walking around the AMS RLD's high on Nederhash (55% thc) joints. That made up for the fact that my AMS storefront sessions were usually not nearly as good as what I was going to get in BKK a few days later. I hear the Dutch are no longer so THC friendly as they once were. Oh well. It is a fond memory I have from back in the day (1996 to 2010).

[Ed Setra]

Interesting that's only 230 baht per dose. Seems rather cheap.

Pfizer BioNtec vac will be priced around $20 per dose, Moderna about twice that and the Oxford version less than $5. J&J version will be around $10 and the one from Novavax will be around $16.

Seems they overpaid.

[Banana Boi]

Thailand has increased the pricing of the Thai Elite Visa from 500,000 to 600,000 baht. Reason is that too many people are applying to Thailand which is a COVID haven.

[Banana Boi]

But it seems the girls are primarily Romanian or Bulgarian and they don't appeal to me. I loved it when the girls were Polish, Czech, Hungarian, etc.

Romanians and Bulgarians. Some are ok and pretty but most are like machines. Limited personality. I dated a Moldavian for a few years when I was younger and wasn't too happy that they became the staple of Germany FKK clubs. A far cry in looks, GFE feel from Hungarian, Polish, Czech, Germans, Estonians, and even some of the Russians back in 2012.

There is an article today on TV, that the government has purchased 26 million doses for Baht 6 billion for AstraZeneca?

Interesting that's only 230 baht per dose. Seems rather cheap.

I assume everyone knows that if they say the vaccine is 95% effective it doesn't mean that the vaccine cures 95% of the people who have COVID. It only means that it reduces your chance of getting COVID by 95%.

[IHeartIpa]

My hope was to get vacine in summer and go to Thailand but this news may mean that's not going to happen. Thailand residents would need to be vaccinated.

https://thehill.com/news-by-subject/...it-virus-after

Don't book anything but don't give up hope either. Visa rules about covid seem to change day by day so who knows what they will be in 6 months.

[Horatio]

My hope was to get vacine in summer and go to Thailand but this news may mean that's not going to happen. Thailand residents would need to be vaccinated.

https://thehill.com/news-by-subject/...it-virus-after

[LittleBigMan]

The Thai gov has pre-purchased some vaccines but nowhere near enough for all citizens.

I'm betting mid 2021 it will be vaccine + insurance + maybe a week quarantine or some other restriction.

There is an article today on TV, that the government has purchased 26 million doses for Baht 6 billion for AstraZeneca? The mass distribution will start in May 2021, it should also be noted previous an article that the government had signed a contract or agreement to produce their vaccine here in Thailand, how that will affect whether they get more is anyone guess? It also has been noted if the vaccine works not all the population needs to have the vaccine for example I read for the USA Something like 60% of the population really needs to have it?

Funny from the article on TV, it seems they have a grasp on who will get the vaccine first until more is on the way. It was noted the purchase was by the government and that distribution will be free referring to Thais? No mention of those who are retired or reside in Thailand did note that a private hospital can purchase on their own.

What happens is any guess but I think it really depends on how well it works by May and I cross my finger we are talking 90 plus % of this working England the first to be given I take a guess in a month depending on the side effects if a nonfactor numbers start to go down by May there will be many more vaccine out the one many people are looking at is the Johnson and Johnson which only requires one shot.

I think it would be pretty tough for Thailand to still required any of the quarantine or insurance they will just go back to their corrupt ways of obtaining their red envelopes? Business as usual?

[Allover]

I personally really enjoy walking around the Amsterdam RLD. However, being so near Germany I don't find any urge to go with a girl unless she's very hot. Most of the time I do 0 or 1 girl but there was 1 night I did 4 girls years ago when the girls were Hungarian. Still, it's a lot of fun for a night if I happen to be in Amsterdam.

I still like visiting Amsterdam and its RLD. But it seems the girls are primarily Romanian or Bulgarian and they don't appeal to me. I loved it when the girls were Polish, Czech, Hungarian, etc. Alkmaar is always a fun side trip, more for walking around town than its RLD.

[IHeartIpa]

That all depends on the Thai Tourism Minister. I'm sure once the vaccines start showing improvement in the countries for incoming visitors, the country will slowly reopen. That said, after reviewing Pattaya One News, there is no mention on the status of vaccines for Thais. That will be key as well. I don't imagine anything happening until late Spring of next year. I also imagine there will be calls that those entering have proof of a vaccine and still purchase Thai travel insurance. It could be years before a pre-COVID Pattaya is back to normal. IMHO.

The Thai gov has pre-purchased some vaccines but nowhere near enough for all citizens.

I'm betting mid 2021 it will be vaccine + insurance + maybe a week quarantine or some other restriction.

[Banana Boi]

I personally really enjoy walking around the Amsterdam RLD. However, being so near Germany I don't find any urge to go with a girl unless she's very hot. Most of the time I do 0 or 1 girl but there was 1 night I did 4 girls years ago when the girls were Hungarian. Still, it's a lot of fun for a night if I happen to be in Amsterdam.

NL authorities now largely hostile to sex, as the forced closure of FKK Yinyang has shown. FKK Golden Times across the NL border in Brggen full of Dutch punters for a reason.

I believe Sixsens remains open. I preferred Sixsens over YY anyways.

[Kerrstar]

I also imagine there will be calls that those entering have proof of a vaccine and still purchase Thai travel insurance. It could be years before a pre-COVID Pattaya is back to normal. IMHO.

If you're coming from a first world country then I would think you would need proof of vaccination before you leave. If not, you would need it on your return or have to go into quarantine. That will be the case here in Australia. Being vaccinated probably won't be compulsory but I'd imagine the airlines would prefer it. Qantas gave already said they won't take bookings from people who haven't been vaccinated.

[Nixonbd]

If I am vaccinated in June, what do people here think. Can I go to Thailand from USA in June? Will they require quarantine or health insurance?

I know it's just a guess. Thanks.

That all depends on the Thai Tourism Minister. I'm sure once the vaccines start showing improvement in the countries for incoming visitors, the country will slowly reopen. That said, after reviewing Pattaya One News, there is no mention on the status of vaccines for Thais. That will be key as well. I don't imagine anything happening until late Spring of next year. I also imagine there will be calls that those entering have proof of a vaccine and still purchase Thai travel insurance. It could be years before a pre-COVID Pattaya is back to normal. IMHO.

[Sunlover2]

The mongering scene in the NL has been dying for over a decade now. Amsterdam RLD now smaller and less interesting than Brussels'. NL authorities now largely hostile to sex, as the forced closure of FKK Yinyang has shown. FKK Golden Times across the NL border in Brggen full of Dutch punters for a reason.

Today's trend in NL Society has been towards a return to prohibitions (magic mushrooms banned in Amsterdam since a few years, and cannabis sale in coffee shops officially restricted to Dutch citizens).

The 'scene is not what it used to be' is a common veteran monger refrain. It is the same here on the Thailand board. Generally stated: quality down, prices up, options diminished. Over on the FKK threads they thought the world was coming to an end when the new law prohibited bareback sex. But based on ease and quality Amsterdam was still quite viable. The future is to be determined though, and dependent on the inevitable post-CoVid reset.

SL.

[XXL]

I think any discussion of best mongering destinations needs to include The Netherlands. Amsterdam has 3 RLD's and multiple Prive Houses (brothels) to choose from, and there is some action to be found in the smaller cities. So ease is high, and looks can also be high with both native Dutch and Eastern / Western European ladies in the mix.

SL.

The mongering scene in the NL has been dying for over a decade now. Amsterdam RLD now smaller and less interesting than Brussels'. NL authorities now largely hostile to sex, as the forced closure of FKK Yinyang has shown. FKK Golden Times across the NL border in Brüggen full of Dutch punters for a reason.

Today's trend in NL Society has been towards a return to prohibitions (magic mushrooms banned in Amsterdam since a few years, and cannabis sale in coffee shops officially restricted to Dutch citizens).

[Sunlover2]

If you've actually mongered in the Netherlands I don't think you'd say that. Very expensive with lots of tourist traps.

Not sure where that came from. I have dozens of trips to Holland under my belt. As for tourist traps: I never experienced any in the NL, but they likely exist wherever mongering exist. Hazard of the hobby.

And FWIW the premise of the original question was if prices were THE SAME everywhere. Please try to keep up:

If prices for girls were THE SAME everywhere which cities / countries would you be visiting the most to hobby? Based on girl's looks, service, attitude and the overall ease of hobbying.

I personally haven't included many cities like Prague / Budapest / London / Montreal / Toronto, etc with escorts only because imo not being able to see the girl before she appears at the door is not ease of hobbying.

Mine would be:

1. Dusseldorf / Frankfurt / Berlin.
2. Las Vegas
3. Switzerland
4. Tokyo / Osaka.
5. Bangkok / Pattaya.