General Reports

[Kerrstar]

Have you or anyone else had better luck signing up for a CurrencyFair account while residing in either Thailand or the USA?

I can't remember where I was when I set up my account but it was probably Australia. If you know someone in the UK or Europe you could try using their address and your phone number. I use both my Aus and USA phone numbers with them.

You could try OFX, they are similar and I think they accept USA citizens. Scratch that, they don't send money to Thailand.

[Goatscrot]

Who here remembers New York city in the 1970's? Not much different from Bangkok or Pattaya today. Numerous street walkers and massage parlors where I had my best mongering. Occasional police raids where owners forgot to pay the cops or for show for one reason or another. In those days I thought it would never end. Enjoy while you have it folks!

Wise words. Harken back to late 90's early 00's Cambodia. Viets, 5 usd ST and 20 LT. Place was undeveloped rough and raw. Only real law was don't hurt anyone. Thought it would last forever. Wrong.

[Mr Russell]

Hey brothers!

I will be traveling to Thailand for the first time in March. Would greatly appreciate it if you guys could give me a heads up on where I can play. I've only mongered in Tijuana. For those of you that are familiar with Tijuana, I don't usually pick the $80-$100 HK women but I do prefer the women from Chevelas & Tropical between $45-$60 for 1-1.5 hour. Will I get comparable value in Bangkok? Is there a similar Hotel Cascadas near the red light district? I prefer to be able to bring them back to my own room. Recommendations & advice please.

[EihTooms]

All these transfer companies work the same, they don't move money internationally unless they are short. It's basically a matching system that offsets people in country A sending to be with people doing the opposite.

Currencyfair allow you in add a line in as a reference to show where the money is coming from.

I was attracted to the idea that with CurrencyFair I could add a line in as a reference to where the money is coming from, which might solve the problem of making sure my Bangkok Bank statement identified the transaction as a "Foreign Transfer" for the sake of my Thai retirement visa monthly income requirements. Unfortunately, when I tried to sign up for an account with CurrencyFair they asked for my country of residence and there is no entry or option for Thailand. So I thought I would find out what happens if I tell them I am residing in the USA. No go with that option either. I clicked the box for the United States of America but immediately got a pop up telling me, "We're sorry. We are not accepting applications for accounts in the USA at this time" or something to that effect.

Have you or anyone else had better luck signing up for a CurrencyFair account while residing in either Thailand or the USA?

[Syzygies]

Second question is would most girls rather get 100 thb tip or have me buy them a drink?

That is not simple. You could ask them firstly how much commission they get from each drink. It could be 90 Baht these days (if girl drink costs 200 Baht), I am sure used to less. The other thing is does the girl have a monthly salary and a drinks quota? If she fails to sell the drinks quota, she could be facing fines off her salary. Some girls fines for various reasons are so high, there is no monthly salary left.

So generally I believe she will like the 100 Baht more, but sometimes could be wrong. For sure she would prefer both the drinks and the tip.

She won't be allowed to sit with you for long if you fail to buy her any drinks. That would indicate she is not working for the bar at all.

Tips in a gogo bar are unlikely to be put in a pot and shared. A tip in the money tray may well go to the owner unless someone steals it, or perhaps the behind bar staff get it, I am not sure. Put tip in the hand or bra etc. If intending to tip a specific person.

[Mr Enternational]

Second question is would most girls rather get 100 thb tip or have me buy them a drink?

What about what the bar owner would rather? Don't forget that most times tips are put into a kitty and split up by all the workers at the end of the night; same as it was when I worked in a bar way back when.

[Horatio]

I am in a less visited part of phuket, over by chalong pier. Rates are I think 1000 thb plus bar fine. Often there are no other customers or just one other. And 3 or 4 women. It seems like few make any money. Idk that but I don't see how. Anyway what price would be a fair price to pay? I don't want to be a cheap Charlie, but it seems like some would be happy getting less then getting none. And I would like to save some money.

Second question is would most girls rather get 100 thb tip or have me buy them a drink?

Thanks.

[EihTooms]

Hell, most of us have never read the code of our own countries and cities, and he is talking about reading a foreign code in worm writing?

There are English versions of it online. Why would they omit the part about "Penalties for engaging in prostitution between consenting adults" in the English version when the penalties related to the co-factors I mentioned are covered in detail? Just to mess with non Thai-speaking farang punters?

https://www.thailandlawonline.com/ta...and-penal-code

Title IX would generally be the pertinent section I believe. It really isn't very complicated or confusing. I mean, they speak directly to the issue of protecting prostitutes from exploitation, undue coersion, etc but say zero about her or him committing a crime just by being a prostitute in the first place. Or the customer commiting a crime by paying for the services of one.

[Naters]

Are there any resorts / hotels similar to Black Beards in the Dominican Republic?

I'm kind of just looking for a one stop shop that covers everything in Thailand. I stumbled upon a few websites claiming to have resorts like this with little information else where.

[Mr Enternational]

The reason most of us here haven't seen the specific section of Thailand Penal Code you're alluding to is that we never read one single word out of that book. It proves nothing. Unless you're a Thai lawyer, your opinion on Thai law isn't worth much.

Hell, most of us have never read the code of our own countries and cities, and he is talking about reading a foreign code in worm writing?

[EihTooms]

Who here remembers New York city in the 1970's? Not much different from Bangkok or Pattaya today. Numerous street walkers and massage parlors where I had my best mongering. Occasional police raids where owners forgot to pay the cops or for show for one reason or another. In those days I thought it would never end. Enjoy while you have it folks!

I think where it reasonably applies to the often asked question about it on boards like this one is we should avoid mongering where WE have control over any of those co-factors that, imo and observation, are really the only legitimate excuses the cops have under the law to bust customers, hookers, bar owners, shop owners or anyone else in the vicinity of the activity. I mean, we have no control over and are not to blame if a girl shouts out "Hey, where you go? Boom boom 1,000 baht ok?" in front of a temple, a staid family hotel or a group of high school students waiting for a bus. We are not to blame if it turns out the owner of a bar is raking off a share of the girls' service fees. And in neither of those example cases would we be arrested and charged just for being there at the time. Unless the cops wanted to trump up something out of nothing, of course.

However, we would be to blame if the girl was too young to consent or, even if over the age of consent, she could convince a cop and judge she "felt" unduly coerced to the point of being afraid to say no. Ah, that does get a bit tricky though. After all, a girl could tell a cop anything if she wanted to cause trouble for you, right?

On the other hand, I honestly do not believe any punter in Thailand needs to play hide-and-seek with the cops when they walk up to any hooker on the street, in a shop, in a bar or at a shopping mall rendezvous with a freelancer they've met online in order to avoid being busted for merely exchanging money for sex with a consenting adult.

[Turgid]

Service providers are occasionally arrested just waiting for customers, notable example being the girls on Pattaya Beach Road. They're normally fined 500-1000 baht and released, but obviously what they're doing is not legal. Not sure what exact crime it falls into, perhaps soliciting. Fortunately, customers are not routinely arrested.

The reason most of us here haven't seen the specific section of Thailand Penal Code you're alluding to is that we never read one single word out of that book. It proves nothing. Unless you're a Thai lawyer, your opinion on Thai law isn't worth much. In addition, specific laws on the books matter less than what the authorities are cracking down on today.

Who here remembers New York city in the 1970's? Not much different from Bangkok or Pattaya today. Numerous street walkers and massage parlors where I had my best mongering. Occasional police raids where owners forgot to pay the cops or for show for one reason or another. In those days I thought it would never end. Enjoy while you have it folks!

[Syzygies]

But an adult discretely consenting to have sex with other adults in exchange for money? I have yet to see that specific law on the books. Nor have I heard or read of arrests for either the service provider or the customers for it. Maybe I just missed it.

Yes so its not like Sweden or USA, etc. Where cops might be trying to catch hookers' customers. Sure if the girl is under age or in special categories as you say, big trouble possible.

Most of us long time mongers have likely done girls under age accidentally especially at MPs, and ST hotels from a bar, merely because we did not suspect and think to check. However if Hotel desk checks her ID, could be a problem. I know I did a girl probably under age by accident who was a mother already, and only found out later. I certainly was aware off girls in bars non Thai or not quite the right age, but this has been largely stamped out by police raids.

Solo Hotel in Soi 2 once denied my girl who was age 19, as a room visitor (to stay the night). Yet I was able to check her in as a permanent guest and had booked a room for 2. How does that make any sense? Naturally I would not stay at such stupid Hotels.

My personal view is if a girl has a baby already and needs money to support her family, I don't see why she should not be allowed to work, her choice. Some girls and their children are under great hardship, without the government trying make things extra hard for them, and putting them into all sorts of categories.

The reality of Police Raids in bars and MPs, can be that the Police want to extract cash fines (bribes) from some of the hookers. However underage girls might be taken away to the Police Stations.

[EihTooms]

Service providers are occasionally arrested just waiting for customers, notable example being the girls on Pattaya Beach Road. They're normally fined 500-1000 baht and released, but obviously what they're doing is not legal. Not sure what exact crime it falls into, perhaps soliciting. Fortunately, customers are not routinely arrested.

The reason most of us here haven't seen the specific section of Thailand Penal Code you're alluding to is that we never read one single word out of that book. It proves nothing. Unless you're a Thai lawyer, your opinion on Thai law isn't worth much. In addition, specific laws on the books matter less than what the authorities are cracking down on today.

I would categorise a sweep on the street whether it is Beach Road in Pattaya or Sukhumvit Soi 4 as responding to the "crime" of flaunting or making a public spectacle (nuisance) of prostitution.

Same with the joke walk down Walking Street where the cops proudly announce there is "no evidence" of prostitution going on. I think the only busts they would or could make (according to Thai law) is on grounds that the bars ares established not for entertainment, the fine art of the dance, and drinking, but in order to live off the proceeds of girls exchanging sex for money.

If there is a consenting adult man or woman in Thailand who has been busted solely for one of them handing the other money for sex or asking to have sex for money without any of those other co-factors involved I have not read or heard of it.

Sure, the cops could bust anyone effectively for "prostitution" by claiming one of those co-factors was involved even if it wasn't.

[Crocodilexp]

But an adult discretely consenting to have sex with other adults in exchange for money? I have yet to see that specific law on the books. Nor have I heard or read of arrests for either the service provider or the customers for it. Maybe I just missed it.

Service providers are occasionally arrested just waiting for customers, notable example being the girls on Pattaya Beach Road. They're normally fined 500-1000 baht and released, but obviously what they're doing is not legal. Not sure what exact crime it falls into, perhaps soliciting. Fortunately, customers are not routinely arrested.

The reason most of us here haven't seen the specific section of Thailand Penal Code you're alluding to is that we never read one single word out of that book. It proves nothing. Unless you're a Thai lawyer, your opinion on Thai law isn't worth much. In addition, specific laws on the books matter less than what the authorities are cracking down on today.