General Reports

[Goferring]

If a girl in Jakarta tells you she is 18 or 19, she is likely 14 or 15. So it's best to check their ID first.

Same in PH. If she says she's 18, it normally means she's turning 18 this year or next.

[Smoothy]

I'd like to bring up a point that most girls who say they are 18 or 19 are really older

I think that's true in the USA, but it's definitely not true in Jakarta. If a girl in Jakarta tells you she is 18 or 19, she is likely 14 or 15. So it's best to check their ID first.

[Banana Boi]

I'm no where close to 60 and I feel self conscious with some of the younger looking girls. I don't care if a girl is 18,19, or 20. It's fine if they look it but a couple of the girls I really like are 19 and 20 now but definitely look like little kids to me still. One keeps asking me to go to Hollywood on her days off but I keep turning her down.

I'd like to bring up a point that most girls who say they are 18 or 19 are really older, They figure most Farang tourists have no clue on their age. Even I have been very wrong on age before, I guessed a girl to be 19 and she was 25, another I guessed 26 and she was 37. Asian girls can really fool you so next time you think you're with a young Asian girl she may mot be as young as you think.

[Franciscass]

But there is another group of young cute girls I sometimes meet on the dating sites who are delving in what I would call "P4P Curious" behavior. They are toying with the idea of making much easier, faster and bigger money than their education and business networking or connections levels could ever produce by earning money for having sex with relative strangers. They meet me, feel safe or relaxed with me, like me enough to give it away for free once or twice, come to believe the part of P4P life where they have sex with men who they would not ordinarily choose for a romp just for the pleasure of it is ok with them after all and then they hit me up for money to pay for it one way or another later. Maybe they don't want to admit openly or to themselves that they are in fact hooking.

Actually ET whether she is 20 or 28 doesn't make a lot of difference in my failing to understand why they sleep with a sixty year old unless it is for the money.

I sometimes with nothing better to do peruse genuine international dating sites and I have rarely if ever seen a girl in her twenties or indeed thirties indicate she is happy meeting up with men 30 to 40 years older than her.

I am also for the sake of the conversation talking about attractive girls who are not short of possibilities with guys closer to their own age. Those challenged by the figures of beauty may decide a shag with jolly old Jim is better than staying at home with her 6 inch dildo.

I totally get explanations summarized under playing the long game. "How long you stay " is a box checked early on by the girls.

As to curiosity about what's it like with an old geezer, possible I suppose but I imagine rare particularly with Thai girls.

I get it that some working prefer older guys, less wear and tear and possibly more satisfying but only if they are being paid.

Your explanation that it's possibly a novice intending on entering the P4P business deciding on checking it out first with an old guy of her choice before going all in I find a stretch.

To finish I find paying for it less complicated, more satisfying and I would feel more than guilty if there was even a hint that she was playing the long game and I had no intention of ever helping her with the vet bills for the sick buffalo.

[BrazilRio]

It's possible to have a permanent visa if I buy a property in Thailand? Do I own 100% of property land? I hesitate buying a property between Brazil and Thailand. I know if I buy in Brazil, I own 100% of property land I buy. Can I stay 3 months in Thailand if I get a Brazilian permanent visa?

[EihTooms]

Perhaps you should. Remember what one poster said? If there are no pics, it just did not happen. LOL.

In that case, there are only 2-3 posters here who have ever had sex with anyone. And that many isn't even a certainty. How often do we see pics in these threads of people engaging in actual sex acts? On the rare occasions we do, how do we know the guy in the pic is really the poster or that the girl is the one he is reporting on?

You're not counting Line screen shots or pics of girls sitting next to a guy, smiling at the camera as proof that actual sex occurred at any time between them are you?

[Blanquiceleste]

Can somebody explain to me why a 20 year old cutie in any country would sleep with a sixty something year old if not for monetary reward. Posts about spending sex filled days with contacts from social media where money is never discussed baffle me.

I am not casting aspirations on the validity of the posters but what is it be about.

Perhaps you should. Remember what one poster said? If there are no pics, it just did not happen. LOL.

[EihTooms]

Can somebody explain to me why a 20 year old cutie in any country would sleep with a sixty something year old if not for monetary reward. Posts about spending sex filled days with contacts from social media where money is never discussed baffle me.

I am not casting aspirations on the validity of the posters but what is it be about.

Amazing sex or curiosity about what's it like with an old guy?

Maybe she likes discussing western values, culture, art, literature. Perhaps it's been taken to good restaurants bars and clubs, trips abroad or to the beach but most posts don't mention this as part of the arrangement and often in fact boast about it costing them nothing.

I keep coming back to it being that the girls see something in it for them whether short term and immediate or more long term where money is not discussed in the early stages. Here they roll the dice, hope for the best and take their chances it will work out eventually.

What am I missing?

In my case, the times where a 20 year old cutie met me under totally non P4P circumstances and had sex with me without any discussion or (apparently) expectation of money have been rare. Three times in the past few years while I was in my 60's for sure. Maybe another 1-2 times that I've forgotten due to sheer numbers of other girls I've been with both directly P4P and not. The times when the cutie has been in her late 20's or early 30's has been much more often. I'd say a dozen times or more at least.

With the 20 year olds (let's say 18 to 23 years old), I can only say we met either on a dating site or with her working in a restaurant or mall, a sort of friendship was struck, we had a date and by the end of that first or second date max we were naked in my bed and having sex. I cannot say what their "real" motive was other than what they said about it; that they liked/loved me and wanted to have sex with me. In no case have I taken a girl to expensive restaurants except perhaps once out of curiosity to check it out (mine, not there's). There were no luxury hotels, no whirlwind trips domestically or abroad, no shopping sprees or anything like that. Of course, as it is with virtually ALL women, I am sure they were/are looking for "something in it for them" other than profit-free rolls in the sack.

With the late 20's and early 30's girls it is easy to assume they are looking to play the long game with ongoing security being the goal, just like women everywhere. They have seen their value to local Thai men plummet due to their advanced age (LOL), due to their having a baby or both. And that is what I do assume.

But there is another group of young cute girls I sometimes meet on the dating sites who are delving in what I would call "P4P Curious" behavior. They are toying with the idea of making much easier, faster and bigger money than their education and business networking or connections levels could ever produce by earning money for having sex with relative strangers. They meet me, feel safe or relaxed with me, like me enough to give it away for free once or twice, come to believe the part of P4P life where they have sex with men who they would not ordinarily choose for a romp just for the pleasure of it is ok with them after all and then they hit me up for money to pay for it one way or another later. Maybe they don't want to admit openly or to themselves that they are in fact hooking.

For the most part, that last category of girls saw it as P4P all along (and so did I really) but were willing to get the Pay a few days After in order to give that arrangement a test drive with someone they felt ok about being with. And, let's face it, they were testing it with a man for whom they assumed they would not "fall in love" in the way they might with a much younger, more age-appropriate man. I am sure it was like, "Hey, this guy seems like a good test subject. Let's see if I am ok with having sex with older men for money." And it goes like that once or twice until I get the Line message about the sick or dying grandma.

[Mr Enternational]

I have done a simple price comparison on several so-called duty-free items in HK, Incheon and Guam in trips over the past 3 months, and I can state with certainty that I can buy the same items in the SM liquor stores in Manila at the same or cheaper prices in Manila.

Brother that is anywhere. I don't know why people are still falling for the duty free rip off. In the Dominican Republic I took my coworker to the grocery store to buy some liquor. When we left and were going through duty free at the airport I pointed out to her that the price was double what we paid at the grocery store.

[Mr Enternational]

A bottle of expensive hair growth lotion I had in my hand luggage was objected to on a transit to Samui in BKK. The bottle was nearly half empty but it was a 150 ml bottle and only bottles up to 100 ml were allowed in carry-on luggage, so they said. They let me go and buy a insect repellent 100 ml bottle from the pharmacy. I threw away the insect repellent into the washroom sink and replaced it with the hair growth lotion. I was then let through. A pointless procedure but at least they didn't confiscate the bottle outright.

Same as the US. Ridiculous as shit. When I first moved to Pattaya I brought some enzyme deodorizer. Since the bottle was too big I bought smaller bottles to put it in. I still brought the original bottle empty. What fucking sense does that make?

[Syzygies]

I highly recommend everyone to buy this rechargeable LED flashlight that is bright enough to light up an entire room. Just plug in to the wall to recharge. They have similar ones that run on batteries. 69 baht at Mr. DIY. One of the very few non necessity goods have purchased in Thailand.

Yes I got some. Unfortunately were slightly more expensive at Tesco Lotus. Limited options nearby, but maybe looked in the wrong place.

Perhaps mine are slightly different (but not much). However important to have some instant lighting when electricity goes down, till plug in the cords to the generator.

Already used the generator once now, but fortunately the outage was only 20 to 30 minutes. Was so hot, I certainly wanted the backup power fairly quickly to get the fans and refrigerator going. If overload it or some other problem the cut out switch can be tripped, but then just flick the switch back on a again. I am far out in country and its a bad area for outages. Virtually any high power wind in a storm will bring down branches onto power lines out on the main road. Council maintenance is poor to non existent.

Hello, its raining now at last, although wind is not high yet. We might be in for an outage soon. Ha ha.

[Syzygies]

Can somebody explain to me why a 20 year old cutie in any country would sleep with a sixty something year old if not for monetary reward. Posts about spending sex filled days with contacts from social media where money is never discussed baffle me.

Females do not appear to be as hung up on the age of the partner, as many males are. We will never understand them.

Definitely they are far more economically motivated than us, and also want reliable guys. There is the thing about trying Farangs.

Some girls do say they would rather have good sex with an older guy, over bad sex with a young selfish guy, however I think they would take the young hot guy in preference if he performs as good, and can appear experienced. I definitely notice a big decline in the way young Thai girls respond to me, compared to over 25 years ago, yet my skills are better now.

Girls can get it off, and can close their eyes if necessary and pretend its a young Brad Pitt, I guess.

In general, older guys are never seen as undesirable as older girls, if they are in reasonable condition. Some girls claim to like fat older guys. One very slim Long Gun special dancer girl of the past, would knock me back, and say she much preferred older cuddly Teddy Bear (fatter) type guys, and only went with guys occasionally (possible had a BF). Perhaps she was scared the sex workout would be too arduous. Maybe was just bullshit. I will never know. She was always happy to sit with me and get drunk. Just no sex available.

Anyway, like you, I don't always understand really.

My Mrs wants me a hell of a lot (20+ years older than her) when she is on "premium herb", but when she runs out of that, she gets lazy and not very horny. Us guys, we are just horny all the time, almost. No assist needed and always ready for it. Well actually no. The Mrs is hot, but if an old ugly girl wants to fuck me, I would not be that interested and dick might not rise to the occasion. We just have been getting girls too good (for looks) for too long.

Unlike others, a very plain looking pornstar is not my objective.

[Rob Jones]

Can somebody explain to me why a 20 year old cutie in any country would sleep with a sixty something year old if not for monetary reward. Posts about spending sex filled days with contacts from social media where money is never discussed baffle me.

I am not casting aspirations on the validity of the posters but what is it be about.

Amazing sex or curiosity about what's it like with an old guy?

Maybe she likes discussing western values, culture, art, literature. Perhaps it's been taken to good restaurants bars and clubs, trips abroad or to the beach but most posts don't mention this as part of the arrangement and often in fact boast about it costing them nothing.

I keep coming back to it being that the girls see something in it for them whether short term and immediate or more long term where money is not discussed in the early stages. Here they roll the dice, hope for the best and take their chances it will work out eventually.

What am I missing?

Why do they sleep with you?

In 3 trips to Thailand I have only scored one "free" girl. The free meaning no money exchanged for sex but I did buy her lunch, dinner, a cup of coffee and I volunteered to buy her a scarf that she was going to pay for anyhow.

What she got out of it? To stay in a 3 star hotel, her first white cock and the potential of snagging a long time boyfriend.

I have been to Bali more frequently and I have only paid once. Again of course there is food and drinks involved but no money for sex. I don't ask what their motives are but again it would range from experimenting to the prospect of a better future.

It does happen but in an environment like Thailand I think select and pay is far easier.

Rob.

[Kickoffs]

Can somebody explain to me why a 20 year old cutie in any country would sleep with a sixty something year old if not for monetary reward. Posts about spending sex filled days with contacts from social media where money is never discussed baffle me.

I am not casting aspirations on the validity of the posters but what is it be about.

Amazing sex or curiosity about what's it like with an old guy?

Maybe she likes discussing western values, culture, art, literature. Perhaps it's been taken to good restaurants bars and clubs, trips abroad or to the beach but most posts don't mention this as part of the arrangement and often in fact boast about it costing them nothing.

I keep coming back to it being that the girls see something in it for them whether short term and immediate or more long term where money is not discussed in the early stages. Here they roll the dice, hope for the best and take their chances it will work out eventually.

What am I missing?

If it's for a single night, no one will know exactly except for the 2 involved.

If it's for a week long trip to a nice place where the expenses, meals and gifts are paid for, that is believable and does happen.

[Franciscass]

Can somebody explain to me why a 20 year old cutie in any country would sleep with a sixty something year old if not for monetary reward. Posts about spending sex filled days with contacts from social media where money is never discussed baffle me.

I am not casting aspirations on the validity of the posters but what is it be about.

Amazing sex or curiosity about what's it like with an old guy?

Maybe she likes discussing western values, culture, art, literature. Perhaps it's been taken to good restaurants bars and clubs, trips abroad or to the beach but most posts don't mention this as part of the arrangement and often in fact boast about it costing them nothing.

I keep coming back to it being that the girls see something in it for them whether short term and immediate or more long term where money is not discussed in the early stages. Here they roll the dice, hope for the best and take their chances it will work out eventually.

What am I missing?