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[Member #4698]

I don't know where you ordered or got yours, but I got three 12-pack of the Sagami 0. 02 L for $35 delivered to the US through E-bay. Should be able to get same price delivered to Thailand.

I just checked my Amazon account. I bought Sagami 0.02 L 3-packs (36 units) on Amazon and I paid $47.80 total or $1. 33 per condom with free shipping. However I see Amazon no longer sells Sagami. Don't know why. I still have 7 or 8 Sagami's and a couple of Hex left over from my last trip. I guess I will just show up in BKK and restock there at my favorite pharmacy @ 840 baht for a box of 12 ($26) or check Ebay

[Rob Jones]

I don't know where you ordered or got yours, but I got three 12-pack of the Sagami 0. 02 L for $35 delivered to the US through E-bay. Should be able to get same price delivered to Thailand.

Good to see a sensible thread here.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Snip. While on a Japanese condom site I noticed that Okamoto, which is apparently Sagami's main competition in the premium condom market has a "001 0. 01 mm Zero One Large Size Condom". I grabbed some of them too. They aren't cheap though, only come in 3 packs and cost about US $12 (Yes US $4 per condom) compared to just less than US $2 for the Sagami's. Snip

Hey Bubba Boy, looks like you are really prepared for action. Last trip I brought along 3 dozen Sagami 0. 02 L's and a 1 dozen Lelo Hex. I paid around $1.50 US per unit for the Sagami online and around $0.75 per unit for the Hex direct from Lelo. In LOS the Sagami's retail for around 70 baht per unit.i

I don't know where you ordered or got yours, but I got three 12-pack of the Sagami 0. 02 L for $35 delivered to the US through E-bay. Should be able to get same price delivered to Thailand.

[Smoothy]

How can they call a condom XL when it is only 46 mm wide?

Even the Sagami 0. 02 L is 58 mm wide (and still uncomfortably tight).

I haven't tried those, but I did try these Aoni ones recommended by a buddy in Jakarta. I found them to be very uncomfortable and I am as small as they come. They went straight in the trash after one session.

[XXL]

How can they call a condom XL when it is only 46 mm wide?

Even the Sagami 0. 02 L is 58 mm wide (and still uncomfortably tight).

[Member #4698]

I already have about 6 well researched samples and have just added some Sagami 0. 02 Large size for my next trip in 2 weeks. Thanks for the advice NB.

While on a Japanese condom site I noticed that Okamoto, which is apparently Sagami's main competition in the premium condom market has a "001 0. 01 mm Zero One Large Size Condom". I grabbed some of them too. They aren't cheap though, only come in 3 packs and cost about US $12 (Yes US $4 per condom) compared to just less than US $2 for the Sagami's.

All up I have 8 samples (1 to 2 dozen of each) to try and am in for about $200 in condoms.

Hey Bubba Boy, looks like you are really prepared for action. Last trip I brought along 3 dozen Sagami 0. 02 L's and a 1 dozen Lelo Hex. I paid around $1.50 US per unit for the Sagami online and around $0.75 per unit for the Hex direct from Lelo. In LOS the Sagami's retail for around 70 baht per unit.

Like I said, I prefer bareback when available and when the girl passes my visual and olfactory standards. Still, in 72 days of mongering in LOS, Yangon, CGK, Sin, Macau and HKG averaging 1. 3 girls a night I went through everything I brought and needed to go out and buy more. 555. Good thing Sagami 0. 02 L's are sold in Jakarta.

Let us know which condoms you liked best and more importantly where you found your favorite girls. Stay Thirsty.

This is the most interesting topic I have seen on here in a while. I'll have to check those out. I normally use the Trojan NaturalLamb condoms. Have you tried those? Is so, how do they compare?

I have never tried the Trojan Natural Lamb product. But they sound interesting. I will give them a try.

I agree both Sagami L and Lelo Hex are great. Sagami is probably easier to get in Thailand though.

Have you tried Okamoto 001 XL? Personally, it's the best condom I've tried.

No, but I have tried the Okamoto 0. 02. They were ok, but I prefer the Sagami 0. 02. I will look for the Okamoto 0. 01 XL and give them a try at some future date.

[Rob Jones]

I see so many old Farang with their shirts folded so they show off half their belly, wearing shirts that they bought 10 years ago when they were 20 kg lighter and now they fit like Saran Wrap, see guys with clothes so outdated that even my Dad wouldn't wear them, seen guys with cheap 200 baht sandals, seen wife beater tank tops, seen shirts with food or blood stains on them, seen guys with short shorts on that look just a tad larger than a Speedo, etc. I always try to guess which ISG member it is when I see these guys.

Guys can say all they want about clothing but I RARELY see a guy who is dressed like he doesn't care with a TOP girl. Of course if you look like a GQ model which I highly doubt any of us do, you can dress any way you like.

The picture you painted seems to be the British retiree spending his golden years in paradise. I don't try to guess who is an ISG member because it may ruin my evening thinking what they may think of me LOL. From this thread I am assuming that all the guys with Victoria Secret models on their arms dressed in Armani are the members LOL.

36 days and counting and first stop the tailors to get my 3 piece suit ready so I can impress $20 hookers.

[Syzygies]

I recently had to do an extensive Thread Search. The forum thread search function is not at all easy to use really, and especially hard to search for text strings that are short.

I thought I would just republish for newbies the best way to search threads for past posts based on a specific search text or two. This was first published by Nic Frenchy (so we are indebted) I believe.

1. On the top of a thread (to the right) are two tabs. One is called Thread Tools. Click on that (not on Thread Search).

2. Click on pull down option "Show Printable version".

3. Top Right click on option: "Show 1000 post (s) from this thread on one page".

4. Note the date on the top of each page (first post) and whether the order is chronological ascending or descending.

5. Use the page selector on top left to pick "1000 posts page" that seems to be around the desired date range.

6. Use Control-F to pull up a text search box, and type in exact text to be searched for possibly including spaces and punctuation markes.

7. Keep using repeat find Next or find Previous functions till get to what you are looking for. Otherwise move to another page of 1000 posts.

Using this method I see to be able to find whatever I am looking for, who posted it, and when. It does not provide the normal method for quoting one of these posts however. I use Advanced Thread Search when need to do that and quote the poster handle.

[Syzygies]

I always try to guess which ISG member it is when I see these guys.

Guys can say all they want about clothing but I RARELY see a guy who is dressed like he doesn't care with a TOP girl. Of course if you look like a GQ model which I highly doubt any of us do, you can dress any way you like.

Ha ha! Right on mate. Could be my sandals did not cost much more than 200 Baht even the leather ones. Maybe up to 500. Ha ha. I hate to wear sneakers (sports shoes) and socks, and reluctant to put on my black business shoes too.

Maybe I have to up the standard of my dress, to succeed in Thermae, even my shirt has a collar, and belly not showing. For the girls to succeed for me, in Thermae I would like them to undress a bit, or at least not dress so conservatively. Very hard to guess which Thermae girl will be great on the bed, and recent years did not meet any that were great on the bed, and non restrictive. Failed to get a stunning body girl as well. Some were okay.

The best girls probably did not want me. My dress could be a factor, rather casual. I think some girls even got put off that I could speak Thai fluently. Probably assumed to be a hard asshole, rather than a nice guy.

I don't know why, but I seem to do much better with almost perfect body (to my spec) girls in the gogos. Possibly these are girls looking for Farangs mostly.

[Banana Boi]

I see so many old Farang with their shirts folded so they show off half their belly, wearing shirts that they bought 10 years ago when they were 20 kg lighter and now they fit like Saran Wrap, see guys with clothes so outdated that even my Dad wouldn't wear them, seen guys with cheap 200 baht sandals, seen wife beater tank tops, seen shirts with food or blood stains on them, seen guys with short shorts on that look just a tad larger than a Speedo, etc. I always try to guess which ISG member it is when I see these guys.

Guys can say all they want about clothing but I RARELY see a guy who is dressed like he doesn't care with a TOP girl. Of course if you look like a GQ model which I highly doubt any of us do, you can dress any way you like.

[Kerrstar]

Bangkok gogo bars are not hot. Aircon. Can go there is aircon taxi. The getting overly hot argument seems to apply to open air bars.

On this topic I thought ETs comments were generally quite sensible. Dress differently for different occasion, different class of girls. However never dress like the lowest class drunken bozos (I can't think what is a suitable universal slang).

I usually wear a polo shirt or golf shirt, jeans and timberland shoes. I'm not too worried abot the heat, but I really feel the cold. If I think I'm going to be in an airconditioned bar for several hours I will wear a long sleeve shirt.

As for girls playing with my dick, well I usually drink at afterschool and they are happy to just take it out of your pants anyway. I'm usually in BKK for a visa run or in transit, so only a couple of days. I don't like to pack heavy.

[Syzygies]

I have worn trousers once in a Pattaya gogo bar and left with the same quality girl but a quarter of the fun as she could only massage me on the outside of my pants.

Pattaya and Bangkok. Two different things I suspect. Not everyone is dressing specifically to have girls playing directly with their dick. Mostly I do regular girls, and we are going to go of and fuck. My dick does not really need a warm up in the bar. Even watching raunchy naked girls does not give me hard on any more, perhaps a lesbian show can. However if was thinking a lot about my dick before going to the bar, I might well wear thin material pants, with no underwear, as a means to show off a hard on underneath. However I don't need to impress my regular girls with how far down the leg the hard-on goes. They know my dick intimately already. Might be useful method to scare off the dick scared girls though. Ha ha. I never thought of that before. These days I tend to ask girls what sort of dick they like.

Some time I will survey some bargirls and see what they think, about guys in the bar so called "over" dressed, or those dressed rather too low class, and where the happy medium is. Really what the girls think might be more important than what we arrogantly think is best.

Bangkok gogo bars are not hot. Aircon. Can go there is aircon taxi. The getting overly hot argument seems to apply to open air bars.

On this topic I thought ETs comments were generally quite sensible. Dress differently for different occasion, different class of girls. However never dress like the lowest class drunken bozos (I can't think what is a suitable universal slang).

[EihTooms]

I too have been watching this thread and firstly I have been waiting for it to run out of oxygen. I have been traveling to SEA for almost 20 years now and I don't get why westerners would want to overdress and get over heated. I have probably worn trousers on 10 occasions. You can dress neatly in shorts and button up shirts which allows the girls access to your genitals in a comfortable manner. I believe attitude is more important then appearance.

I have worn trousers once in a Pattaya gogo bar and left with the same quality girl but a quarter of the fun as she could only massage me on the outside of my pants.

My opinion for what's it worth.

Well, I am sure if the original question had been something like, "What kind of clothes should I wear so some girls in a handful (pun intended) of Thailand go-go bars can and will reach in and grab my dick?", our replies would have been very different. I would have replied with something like wide, very loose and sloppy shorts cut high above your knees, button or Velcro fly instead of zipper and don't bother wearing underwear.

However, since the original questions regarding clothing were, "If you were in your 50's or (60's) and wanted to dress well when you went to the bars, what would you wear? I would (not) want to not look out of place or dressed too fancy. I always wore shorts, no pattern t-shirts and sandals. How would I be more attractive with what I wear?", our replies were tailored (again, pun intended) to fit THOSE questions instead.

Bear in mind that too that, unlike most casual beach resort areas like Pattaya, Bangkok, being the great big adult world-class international city that it is, has several discos, clubs, bars, bistros and restaurants where you can still monger for hookers but where there is a dress and shoes code. You are not allowed to just ride up on your skateboard in a swim suit and flip flops, a slingshot stuffed in your hip pocket and one of those twirly fan caps on your head and enter as is. So, if a man in his 50's or 60's who is not finding what he wants in a go-go bar on a given night decides on a whim to check out those kinds of places, he needs to be dressed for it as well as not overdressed for the go-go bar scene. That will almost invariably call for long pants, real shoes and often a collared shirt. Snooty attitude optional and not recommended.

Add to which we are replying to an array of different ethnic, cultural types and hometown mongering acceptance levels in these threads, not just the guy who is already wearing clean, higher quality shorts, button and collared shirts and decent shoes. We have to give as general a response as we can based on our general observations of what can and is being worn by a lot of guys around town in both extremes.

[Rob Jones]

I'm not against wearing pants while in Thailand, I always bring along some black cotton chef pants. They are smooth like dress pants but still allow the girl to get her hand down my pants. I'll wear a nice looking short sleeve dress shirt soas her hand can't be seen down my pants by those nearby. See, I'm classy thinking of the ladies feelings and such. I do like my fuzzy bunny slippers, really makes the girls laugh while I'm fingering them. And I have to think guys who come across as 'snooty' on a review board come across as 'snooty' in spades in front of the ladies they are trying to impress. You might not get laughed at for wearing shorts but for sure the girls will be talking about 'that prick' in those pants sitting by himself.

I too have been watching this thread and firstly I have been waiting for it to run out of oxygen. I have been traveling to SEA for almost 20 years now and I don't get why westerners would want to overdress and get over heated. I have probably worn trousers on 10 occasions. You can dress neatly in shorts and button up shirts which allows the girls access to your genitals in a comfortable manner. I believe attitude is more important then appearance.

I have worn trousers once in a Pattaya gogo bar and left with the same quality girl but a quarter of the fun as she could only massage me on the outside of my pants.

My opinion for what's it worth.

[Breadman]

Misguided comment. Guys really should make an effort to fit in and respect the local customs and ways, to avoid being considered foreign trash. "In Rome, do as the Romans do".

If you dress very low class, it won't help Thai girls' opinions of you.

If you don't dress properly, some venues will refuse you entry. I got refused entry to certain places for wearing sandals on occasion. It maybe that I considered shoes and socks impractical (too sticky) but did not change the thinking of others. In Pattaya, probably anything goes, but not so much Bangkok.

I'm not against wearing pants while in Thailand, I always bring along some black cotton chef pants. They are smooth like dress pants but still allow the girl to get her hand down my pants. I'll wear a nice looking short sleeve dress shirt soas her hand can't be seen down my pants by those nearby. See, I'm classy thinking of the ladies feelings and such. I do like my fuzzy bunny slippers, really makes the girls laugh while I'm fingering them. And I have to think guys who come across as 'snooty' on a review board come across as 'snooty' in spades in front of the ladies they are trying to impress. You might not get laughed at for wearing shorts but for sure the girls will be talking about 'that prick' in those pants sitting by himself.