General Reports

[Banana Boi]

#4 is the only one I would chase after at Thermae. #17, #14 and #40 would be good for backup.

It's difficult for me to tell since I generally despise "sucked back" hair.

[Syzygies]

http://www.missosology.info/forum/vi...=286&t=1130537
You have to scroll down a fair bit to get to the candidate pics.
Its too late to enter the website competition.

On this website, how many girls are really pretty for the face (forget bodies for now since they are not nude). I am willing to bet different guys choose very differently.

Girls I like: 4, 13,14, 21,32, 37,40 and probably 3 more I rate as good. Turns out the eventual winner was in my top 7, although borderline (due to slightly weird nose). You will see I did not choose any horror nose jobs, perhaps the odd more subtle nose job. Certainly 90% of entrants would have nose jobs, unless they are not full Thai blood. No. 40 looks half African to me, probably not fully Thai blood. I like her exotic look, but she would have no chance of winning in Thailand due to skin colour bias. I believe she won the "People's Choice Award", due to her on stage abilities and looks.

Lastly I include a pic of the exotic dark skin girl in the Miss Universe Thailand comp (on right), and also two models (non Thai) that show the type of look I go for most (skinny girls narrow face), if can find any Thai girls at all similar. Donut ex Crazy House did have a look somewhat approaching this middle pic. I also love the Jessica Alba exotic look, as a good example.

BTW, Some of the Thai Miss Universe entries are actually ugly for me, however I should not pic them out. They maybe some other guy's preferred girl.

I am the type that chooses a girl for sex based on Fun/GFE, Looks (prefer natural), and Skills in that order of importance. I usually have to compromise in at least 1 of the 3 categories, and Skills is the most likely to be less important to me. I would rarely compromise on 2 categories out of three, as that would be not worth repeating in any way. Obviously its hard to get girls that are top class in all three.

[Syzygies]

Hahaha, I nominate that for funniest comment of the year. That's too good. Thanks for the advice. That is what I had been doing. Glad to know I was on the right track.

Well I didn't laugh that hard. Maybe squirmed is more like it. I prefer hetero dirty jokes.

In relation to sitting on a motorbike, the driver won't really mind how much you hug him. He would be well used to it and Thai men don't have touching phobias. Two hetero Thai men could even sleep on the same double bed if need arose. The important point for customer is to not sit too far back in the seat. Your weight needs to be in front of the back wheel (definitely not weight on hands holding the back handles). Try not to sit to stiffly if possible. I am not used to sitting with legs apart, so I have to hitch up my leans a little so they are not too tight. Some motorcycle seats are not level and slope forward. I hate this. My main objective is to keep the dick clear of the driver but some contact is okay.

If you weight or centre of gravity is too far back on a motorcycle and you are heavy, then will be very difficult for the driver to keep cycle balanced.

[Wolvenvacht]

Haha, yes, I agree.

I use the same approach for either total of 2 or 3 on the moto, and with a Corona in my hand, at 645 am while leaving Insomnia ( appropriately named, in my case).

But, this is also a business opportunity.

There are elephant parks, tiger parks, snake parks etc. But, no water buffalo parks. As yet.

I think it's a great business idea to build one between BKK and Patts and advertise it as a way to learn to ride the motos.

You teach farangs how. By first showing them how to ride the water buffaloes. Then, right in the same park, you could have the moto rides in long bends and quick S curves for the farangs to learn how to ride the motos.

When you leave the park (alive that is; and before child bearing age), you get a Farang rider permit card (signed by The Wolve ) with your pic on it ( for display back home ) and you are then ready to ride the traffic ( or the water buffaloes, as the case may be) in Thailand.

In the LT however, I am waiting for Elon Musk and Tesla to launch the much anticipated autonomous driving motorcycles in BKK and Patts. 😜

Once you get your waterbuffalo riding card, you can then apply for the next course: "how to ride the waterbuffalo lady".

[Haven123]

Hahaha, I nominate that for funniest comment of the year. That's too good. Thanks for the advice. That is what I had been doing. Glad to know I was on the right track.

Haha, yes, I agree.

I use the same approach for either total of 2 or 3 on the moto, and with a Corona in my hand, at 645 am while leaving Insomnia ( appropriately named, in my case).

But, this is also a business opportunity.

There are elephant parks, tiger parks, snake parks etc. But, no water buffalo parks. As yet.

I think it's a great business idea to build one between BKK and Patts and advertise it as a way to learn to ride the motos.

You teach farangs how. By first showing them how to ride the water buffaloes. Then, right in the same park, you could have the moto rides in long bends and quick S curves for the farangs to learn how to ride the motos.

When you leave the park (alive that is; and before child bearing age), you get a Farang rider permit card (signed by The Wolve ) with your pic on it ( for display back home ) and you are then ready to ride the traffic ( or the water buffaloes, as the case may be) in Thailand.

In the LT however, I am waiting for Elon Musk and Tesla to launch the much anticipated autonomous driving motorcycles in BKK and Patts. 😜

[EihTooms]

One of the first times I hopped on a motorcycle taxi the driver and another taxi driver standing next to us literally placed my hands on the driver's waist. Not a wrap around hug. Just placed my hands on each side of his waist at the belt level, then they both gave me a quick thumbs up for doing it right. Been doing it that way ever since, rarely grab the seat handles.

It isn't a firm grab, just convenient to place your hands there for the sake of balance (yours) and not to influence the movement of the bike, which as has been mentioned can happen if you are gripping the seat handles. And you can always increase the grip on the driver's waist if conditions call for it, like a lot of weaving around stopped traffic.

[LittleBigMan]

Motorbike taxis drivers are use to customers grabbing the handles in the back. But as noted locals just seem to sit and being relax. I've driven for over 10 years now here in Pattaya started with a small Honda Click at times packing 3 small kids on the bike around. I've also packed friends large and small.

If you are on a motorbike even going a short distant with 3, there is not much choice but grab on to the bars in the back but the normal position is to put your hands on the shoulder of the passenger in front. As a driver on these small bikes the worse thing a passenger can do is grab hard and tense to the bars. When this is done every little movement you make is felt by the driver and it throws the entire bike off and if the driver doesn't know what they are doing it can be dangerous. If one can try to sit, relax and use your inner thighs.

[MichaelSamuel]

Hahaha, I nominate that for funniest comment of the year. That's too good. Thanks for the advice. That is what I had been doing. Glad to know I was on the right track.

Yes, grabbing the underseat handles is the usual way, but it takes a big effort to do so since my body screams that I should grab that driver and hold him as close as a long lost lover and never let him go for the duration of the ride.

On the other hand, Thai ladies ride sidesaddle while chatting on their smartphones and they never fall off it seems. My Thai GF says that is due to the generations long training of riding waterbuffaloes. Those Thai girls that fell off and got trampled never made it to child bearing age and the bad genes for balance where thus weeded out. Darwinian evolution at work!

[Wolvenvacht]

1 question, not to be homophobic, but I still just hold on to the seat underneath me, as a guy do you hold on the driver's vest if you need to? What's proper protocol there?

Yes, grabbing the underseat handles is the usual way, but it takes a big effort to do so since my body screams that I should grab that driver and hold him as close as a long lost lover and never let him go for the duration of the ride.

On the other hand, Thai ladies ride sidesaddle while chatting on their smartphones and they never fall off it seems. My Thai GF says that is due to the generations long training of riding waterbuffaloes. Those Thai girls that fell off and got trampled never made it to child bearing age and the bad genes for balance where thus weeded out. Darwinian evolution at work!

[Kumbu]

Also on this trip I finally took the plunge and started using motorbike taxis a bit more. My previous experience was limited to a ride back to hotel with a semi drunk pattaya bar girl driving. Being tall, 191 cm and not skinny I still don't feel that comfortable and safe would not be a word I would use, but for short rides or when traffic is not your friend I will continue to use them as alternative. 1 question, not to be homophobic, but I still just hold on to the seat underneath me, as a guy do you hold on the driver's vest if you need to? What's proper protocol there?

I use them all the time. They are great. I always fear having my knees crushed as they weave through traffic, but years of doing this, and my knees are still intact.

Protocol: usually, you don't hang on to the driver. Thai people too don't hang on to the driver. They hang on to the handles underneath the seat. If you grasp tightly, and tighten your arms (so there is no give from left to right), you will stay stable. I've done this carrying some heavy duffel bags too, and it's fine.

My one annoyance with the motocys is the necessity to don that stupid toy helmet. It's usually made out of plastic, with no foam protection, and so it is all a sham to make it seem like there is a safety protocol in place. But that thing is a bacteria festival on steroids, and it does no good. But you have to do it.

[Syzygies]

Also in class you can take advantage of questions, issues, and viewpoints that other people raise that you may not have thought of or may not have yet experienced.

That can be rare if your standard is superior to much of the class. However sometimes a question can be beneficial to all just like on ISG. Different people have different questions. More likely you can be amused by some of the dumb questions. Some students ask few questions and others ask too many.

I probably asked too many as I hate having things I don't understand.

LOL you can see parallels.

[MichaelSamuel]

On the non-hobby side from my quick September trip I have a few notes. Bully's still does a solid, though no-where near Bangkok's best burger, but if you are looking in the Nana area it's a nice place to start. The michelan star tim ho wan branch in T21 is solid dim sum, it's no Hong Kong, but still pretty good. I also got out to the what Lad Prao that stick wrote about this year and enjoyed it as an off the beaten path temple and something different to see.

Also on this trip I finally took the plunge and started using motorbike taxis a bit more. My previous experience was limited to a ride back to hotel with a semi drunk pattaya bar girl driving. Being tall, 191 cm and not skinny I still don't feel that comfortable and safe would not be a word I would use, but for short rides or when traffic is not your friend I will continue to use them as alternative. 1 question, not to be homophobic, but I still just hold on to the seat underneath me, as a guy do you hold on the driver's vest if you need to? What's proper protocol there?

[Mr Enternational]

In a class you can be held back by the crap students who do not practice at home.

Also in class you can take advantage of questions, issues, and viewpoints that other people raise that you may not have thought of or may not have yet experienced.

[Syzygies]

Thanks for that, Syzy. Interesting stuff. On the point about learning from a live teacher instead of from a computer program, what is your opinion of learning from a private tutor who comes to your apartment 2-3 times per week for one-on-one lessons vs sitting in a classroom with other students?

Depends a lot on how good is the teacher to explain pronunciation.

I started learning in a class 6 hrs per week, as it was much cheaper, and worked okay For me. I have used individual tutoring as well. A bit better but more costly. In a class you can be held back by the crap students who do not practice at home.

[EihTooms]

Don't bother to read if you are not trying to speak Thai.

I post this to give those thinking about learning to speak Thai, a good concept of what they must struggle with.

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Thanks for that, Syzy. Interesting stuff. On the point about learning from a live teacher instead of from a computer program, what is your opinion of learning from a private tutor who comes to your apartment 2-3 times per week for one-on-one lessons vs sitting in a classroom with other students?