General Reports

[Banana Boi]

6 months for now. I just picked up keys this morning. Since I don't like motorbikes, made a call that location was worth a few extra thousand baht.

I need to install internet. Is 3BB the best value? I see it's 700 baht per month at Central Festival store.

[Mr Enternational]

Searching for my condo and settling down has been my main objective this week.

I don't know how long you are staying, but JesseJames found some good and cheap shit on airbnb when he was in town last month.

[Banana Boi]

Thanks for your replies on 'losing face' and 'hobbying over time".

I'm not one to tell girls they're the only ones and I want to be with forever, etc. I am up front and clear they are not the only ones. You guys made excellent points that no girl will control my game and my money.

So far in my first 4 days here I have sessioned at a place like soi 6 and kinnaree during the day but have really only been window shopping at gogo clubs, soapies, and iBar at night so far. Searching for my condo and settling down has been my main objective this week.

[Mr Enternational]

I have found thru experience that the words part time boyfriend / girlfriend works well in such situations. Tell the girl you want her to stay with you like a real girlfriend for a few days and then you will be gone. Tell her you will treat her well, wine and dine her, take her bowling or to the movies, buy her small gifts, go for a holiday to a resort / island.

Then an attachment has formed and next time you show back up she will expect the same thing. The chick that I hooked Cool up with keeps asking about him everyday, even though I guess he still talks to her because she told me he will be back in a couple of weeks. I say don't tell her shit. Just play it out as it goes along then when you are finished give her money and tell her bye. I don't think there is anything that I have ever said or done to get GFE. To me it is just a natural chemistry between me and the girl. Either it is there or not.

[Blanquiceleste]

I agree it is all about clear communication, but also about what both sides expect.

A guy who is into GFE is more likely to utter words of loving and undying commitment than someone whose interest is strictly PSE. Us mongers not only buy the physical services of the girls but also to a certain extent a fantasy. And while we snap out of that fantasy once we pay her to go home, she may very well have read different intentions in our behavior.

I have found thru experience that the words part time boyfriend / girlfriend works well in such situations. Tell the girl you want her to stay with you like a real girlfriend for a few days and then you will be gone. Tell her you will treat her well, wine and dine her, take her bowling or to the movies, buy her small gifts, go for a holiday to a resort / island. Do all that you must to extract the best value GFE from the girl, but at each step remind her that come day XX you will be gone and perhaps never see her again, hence it is important to make the most of it now.

But I agree that the girl may read it all wrong and you could get into a bit of a spot. Occupational hazard I guess.

[Wolvenvacht]

But you have to realize it is the guys who put themselves in this position. No chick has ever done all of that without the guy filling her head with bullshit.

I agree it is all about clear communication, but also about what both sides expect.

A guy who is into GFE is more likely to utter words of loving and undying commitment than someone whose interest is strictly PSE. Us mongers not only buy the physical services of the girls but also to a certain extent a fantasy. And while we snap out of that fantasy once we pay her to go home, she may very well have read different intentions in our behavior.

We should also not forget that many girls are indeed also looking for a long-time sponsor, BF or even husband. Something one sees far less with western hookers. It causes our Thai cuties thus more easily to be mistaken about our real intentions.

So it is not a matter of only the mongerer gven a wrong impression, sometimes the girl reads your intentions wrongly. Leaving no doubt in her mind that you are a butterfly (if indeed you are) will avoid much stress and trouble.

[Goatscrot]

But you have to realize it is the guys who put themselves in this position. No chick has ever done all of that without the guy filling her head with bullshit. Over the years I have fucked tons of chicks in the discos. Many of them have even been friends with each other. I go around and fuck each chick in the group one at a time. To this day I have not had a problem with a chick that was related to me talking to or fucking another chick. I am still cordial with all the chicks, when we see each other we speak and hug, and if I want them to come over they will come.

My cousin, on the other hand, was living in Pattaya only a few months and causing shit storms. He would always fill chicks' heads with bullshit until he stopped having to give them money. Then he would get tired of her and want to move on to the next chick. This caused the first chick to beat on his door and loud talk in the hallway at odd hours, curse him, and turn his name to mud. The cycle just continued until he had finally made a bad name for himself in the discos. No chick/vendor is going to claim you for themselves unless you put that thought into their heads.

Very well stated Mr E. Make promises, they will remember. Tell them you will only be with them; they will expect that. We all hear the stories of insanely jealous Thai women. Well, my take is that the guy had a big part in stoking the fires of jealousy. I have had two long term relationships during my tenure in BKK. One almost 8 years and one going on 9 years. Never a hint of jealousy on either's part. Unlike the US, we can for the most part set the tone for the relationship. Many make promises they never plan to deliver on. Not fair to either one of you.

[Blanquiceleste]

But you have to realize it is the guys who put themselves in this position. No chick has ever done all of that without the guy filling her head with bullshit. Over the years I have fucked tons of chicks in the discos. Many of them have even been friends with each other. I go around and fuck each chick in the group one at a time. To this day I have not had a problem with a chick that was related to me talking to or fucking another chick. I am still cordial with all the chicks, when we see each other we speak and hug, and if I want them to come over they will come.

My cousin, on the other hand, was living in Pattaya only a few months and causing shit storms. He would always fill chicks' heads with bullshit until he stopped having to give them money. Then he would get tired of her and want to move on to the next chick. This caused the first chick to beat on his door and loud talk in the hallway at odd hours, curse him, and turn his name to mud. The cycle just continued until he had finally made a bad name for himself in the discos. No chick/vendor is going to claim you for themselves unless you put that thought into their heads.

I have to agree with Mr E here. In my several years of visiting Thailand for pleasure I have never had trouble with a single chick because they all know what my nature is. Butterfly Man, Free Bird, etc. But one thing I am not is a liar. I do not lie to the girls about my intentions. Some girls have refused to sleep with me without a commitment, I bid them farewell. And in the WG circles they really only care about the money. You fill a poor girl's head with shit and that shit is going to come back at you one day. Do not make promises you cannot keep or do not intend to keep.

Remember you are there for fun, while the girls are making their daily rice bowl here. Mess with their rice bowl, its not going to be pretty.

[Mr Enternational]

No, unless that vendor has told all oter vendors that you find his food so deliicious that you have made him your exclusive provider of tasty comestibles.

Nothing you can do about this, it is all up to the vendor and how (s) he has positioned herself in the market.

But it will surely spoil your dinner experience if the vendor comes charging at you wielding a cleaver because you dared to taste his neighbour's curry.

But you have to realize it is the guys who put themselves in this position. No chick has ever done all of that without the guy filling her head with bullshit. Over the years I have fucked tons of chicks in the discos. Many of them have even been friends with each other. I go around and fuck each chick in the group one at a time. To this day I have not had a problem with a chick that was related to me talking to or fucking another chick. I am still cordial with all the chicks, when we see each other we speak and hug, and if I want them to come over they will come.

My cousin, on the other hand, was living in Pattaya only a few months and causing shit storms. He would always fill chicks' heads with bullshit until he stopped having to give them money. Then he would get tired of her and want to move on to the next chick. This caused the first chick to beat on his door and loud talk in the hallway at odd hours, curse him, and turn his name to mud. The cycle just continued until he had finally made a bad name for himself in the discos. No chick/vendor is going to claim you for themselves unless you put that thought into their heads.

[Wolvenvacht]

When you go to the food court and choose to eat at a different booth than you did yesterday, does that make the vendor from yesterday lose face?

No, unless that vendor has told all oter vendors that you find his food so deliicious that you have made him your exclusive provider of tasty comestibles.

Nothing you can do about this, it is all up to the vendor and how (s) he has positioned herself in the market.

But it will surely spoil your dinner experience if the vendor comes charging at you wielding a cleaver because you dared to taste his neighbour's curry.

[Mr Enternational]

Losing face.

Can someone explain this to me and does it apply to gogo clubs?

Sunlover said it best. You are a customer. I think you have been around long enough to understand that. When you go to the food court and choose to eat at a different booth than you did yesterday, does that make the vendor from yesterday lose face?

Even women who are not hookers I let know that I am a butterfly. Hell, they can usually tell without me saying anything anyway. Recently the girl that I am seeing that I really like a lot asked me to be her boyfriend. I told her that I did not think that would be possible because I am a butterfly. She said that she understood and that is no problem for her. Nothing has changed in our relationship. But she knows if she sees me with another chick, she was given the truth up front.

Most guys want to meet chicks then act like they are the only one and they can't live without them. Then later the chick sees him with other girls after he has filled her with bullshit. Sometimes I meet chicks in the disco and before I leave with one, I will tell her friend out loud that I will be fucking her tomorrow, whether I am serious about it or not.

Whenever a chick comes with some bullshit you tell her, "This is Pattaya." The first rule of Pattaya is for guys not to believe anything a woman tells them and for women not to believe anything a guy tells them. Some people understand that right at the beginning and it takes others a while to learn it. The entire city is a damn brothel. Show up without money and see how much face is lost.

[Sunlover2]

Losing face.

Can someone explain this to me and does it apply to gogo clubs?

Here is my situation. Day 1 yesterday I decided to visit my girl at Sensations. I really like my sensations girl but there are so many other girls there I want to BF as well. Is it really bad if I BF a different girl from that club? I don't want to ruin my fun with my current girl.

I know I've BF'd different girls from Sapphire and one freaked out with a bawling fit in the club and another ignores me now but the others are still cool with everything, as long as they get their drinks I guess.

Par for the course with some working girls but don't buy into the dramas. You are the customer. Tell them straight out that you are a butterfly. Their reaction and attitude is their own, not much you can do. Yes you risk losing some; but don't let them control your game.

SL.

[Banana Boi]

Losing face.

Can someone explain this to me and does it apply to gogo clubs?

Here is my situation. Day 1 yesterday I decided to visit my girl at Sensations. I really like my sensations girl but there are so many other girls there I want to BF as well. Is it really bad if I BF a different girl from that club? I don't want to ruin my fun with my current girl.

I know I've BF'd different girls from Sapphire and one freaked out with a bawling fit in the club and another ignores me now but the others are still cool with everything, as long as they get their drinks I guess.

[Blanquiceleste]

Kin, Khee, Bpee, Norn. Thai expression for the daily cycle of Eat, shit, fuck, sleep.

SNIP

If sex is taken away for too long, I do get a starved feeling.

Well said. Sales, Sex, Shave. You don't do it for a few days, it shows on your face.

[Sunlover2]

Regardless of age, there is a limit to how much you can eat. IMHO applies to pussy as well.

When I was younger and on a shorter trip with steam to burn off: it was one or two PSE oily sessions per day, and a NPL nightcap.

Now a days I am in BKK for 30 days at a time and basically on (average) the every other day plan. Time and constant supply cuts down on the urgency, and at my age a little spacing work wonders. Any more than that (partaking when satiated) and I can begin to feel like a beast of burden.

SL.