General Reports

[Explorer8939]

What to do if you schedule a lady and she doesn't show and messages you some excuse?

"I forgot".

"My cousin is sick".

"I cannot leave work now, no have other lady here".

Don't try to negotiate with them, ie, don't say "maybe you can come later" or otherwise try to resolve their issue. They don't want to resolve the issue. They probably got a better customer.

The correct response is:

"No problem, I see you next week."

[TConor]

Zero chance the COE will disappear anytime soon.

I know of several interested singles, couples, and even families who will not be coming to Thailand. COE is just part of the reason. Until it is retired, no hope.

[Explorer8939]

I'm also hearing chatter about the COE getting scrapped. But as usual the devil is in the details, even if the cabinet approves this nothing is final until it is published in the Royal Gazette.

Zero chance the COE will disappear anytime soon.

[Mr Enternational]

This is good news, but be aware of what is being allowed and what's not. You still have to be double vaccinated, get a COE, stay in an approved hotel for seven days, get a PCR test before travelling and two while you are there, use a tracking app for the first seven days too. And the bars, clubs and gogo's will stay shut. Restaurants cannot serve alcohol too.

If I was a vacationing visitor then I would not go anywhere near that place. It would be like taking a trip to 6 Flags when all the rides are shut down. Like an article that I read yesterday that they want Pattaya to be for business and leisure when it reopens, and not entertainment. I can not understand why these people are trying so hard to turn a golden goose into an old age regular egg laying hen. They refuse to acknowledge what draws people to Pattaya.

[Downandup]

I'm also hearing chatter about the COE getting scrapped. But as usual the devil is in the details, even if the cabinet approves this nothing is final until it is published in the Royal Gazette.

[Downandup]

Let's get it!

https://aseannow.com/topic/1233166-t...rs-from-nov-1/

This is good news, but be aware of what is being allowed and what's not. You still have to be double vaccinated, get a COE, stay in an approved hotel for seven days, get a PCR test before travelling and two while you are there, use a tracking app for the first seven days too. And the bars, clubs and gogo's will stay shut. Restaurants cannot serve alcohol too.

[Mr Enternational]

Let's get it!

https://aseannow.com/topic/1233166-t...rs-from-nov-1/

[CIMguy]

The Thai government still doesn't get it. A double vaccinated person is significantly less likely to test positive than a local Thai person at the moment. Any quarantine is pointless at the moment. Any Thais or foreigners with long term visas should be able to return to Thailand without quarantine. It is costly, a waste of time and achieves nothing.

The matter of whether to let tourists comes in is a more complicated. However the economy here is terrible right now. You would think it would be sensible to allow at least a small number in that have been double vaccinated. However, if there is even a 7 day quarantine those tourists are going to go somewhere else that has no quarantine. Thailand is not exactly the best place to go to at the moment, most tourists attractions are closed down or gone for good.

I understand what you're saying about quarantine, but these decisions are also political and it's more complicated than you are making it. Forcing people to quarantine basically allows the govt to say that the foreigners didn't bring it with them. They got it in Thailand just like the locals do. Having no quarantine makes it so that Thais could say the foreigners are bringing it in and then the politicians get blowback. Even a double vaccinated person can still get sick and carry the virus and all it would take is one super spreader event for the politicians to get hammered. They are in a no-win situation, so they are trying to have some kind of quarantine to keep sick people from brining in more virus while also allowing enough freedom to lure tourists. It obviously isn't working, but it's not as simple as just saying "No Quarantine!" That said, I think they should make it easier for long stay visas and those kinds of things. Those people have been long-term supporters of the economy.

I really don't know what the answer is, but I get the issue is complex and very political. I would personally love to see them vaccinate everyone by mandate and open everything. The lack of tourism money really is a national emergency at this point. They have to get people here.

[Mr Enternational]

The Thai government still doesn't get it. A double vaccinated person is significantly less likely to test positive than a local Thai person at the moment. Any quarantine is pointless at the moment. Any Thais or foreigners with long term visas should be able to return to Thailand without quarantine. It is costly, a waste of time and achieves nothing.

From my perspective the entire thing is pointless. I frequent countries such as Dominican Republic and Colombia where not even a test or vaccine is required to enter. There is no rash of tourists or locals returning home spreading covid in these places.

[HorseTrader]

Thailand is not exactly the best place to go to at the moment, most tourists attractions are closed down or gone for good.

That is why it doesn't really matter to the Thai economy if the quarantine is 14, 7, or 0 days. Even just curfew hours will keep many away.

I’ll come back when almost everything is open full hours and the primary restriction is proof of full vaccination.

[Member #4753]

The Thai government still doesn't get it. A double vaccinated person is significantly less likely to test positive than a local Thai person at the moment. Any quarantine is pointless at the moment. Any Thais or foreigners with long term visas should be able to return to Thailand without quarantine. It is costly, a waste of time and achieves nothing.

The matter of whether to let tourists comes in is a more complicated. However the economy here is terrible right now. You would think it would be sensible to allow at least a small number in that have been double vaccinated. However, if there is even a 7 day quarantine those tourists are going to go somewhere else that has no quarantine. Thailand is not exactly the best place to go to at the moment, most tourists attractions are closed down or gone for good.

[BionicMan]

Hmmm, early 2022 is looking like a possibility.

It's 3 days to that the-day, it's not going to happen.

[Turgid]

Reports are that quarantine will be reduced to 7 days for vaccinated individuals on October 1.

Hmmm, early 2022 is looking like a possibility.

[Explorer8939]

Reports are that quarantine will be reduced to 7 days for vaccinated individuals on October 1.

[CIMguy]

Nothing personal but that is what I'm trying to express everyone's situation is different. For the record, I here in Pattaya call it stuck whatever? I usually make a trip home to S. F. Once or twice a year particularly during the start of Chinese New Year, the last trip was at the beginning of 2020 as noted two weeks max I was lucky to leave when I did because by March it got bad and the lockdown. In reverse pretty much I owned in the States is gone particularly a resident so if a deadline isn't met by the Thai Embassy or a positive test prior to leaving for my scheduled flight that will cause a scramble to reset everything which includes the flight, hotel, etc.

My major reason for going home was to see my mother who passed away this March right after her 103rd Birthday, my little brother who is mentally challenged then my two nieces' financial Trust. My greatest resentment due to the pandemic I wasn't able to return and bury her personally with all the inconsistent obstacles in returning to Thailand. Leaving and not being able to return freely back to Thailand in a timely manner with a Thai family and its own problems not complaining puts things in reverse.

I'm sorry about your mother, but it sounds like she lived a long life. 103? Wow.

I also understand hardship from this pandemic. I won't go into it here, but suffice to say my life was turned inside out.