General Reports

[Tomasb]

I am the same. Without at least some DFK, I don't always experience arousal sufficient to enjoy the act, blue pill or not. It's simply a deal killer for me if they don't kiss. I always ask that question first, "do you (deep) kiss" and of course, some Thai girls will try to soft shoe that and agree and then do a dodge once in the room. As I am sure you have experienced, they don't want to prove it in a crowded bar or club because "too shy" or whatever else excuse comes handy, and say wait to the room.

Now with Covid, this provides them further incentive to avoid DFK all together. It's funny, though, as they rarely reject oral sex.

It had gotten to the point over the past few years where it was obvious I might not even get horny enough for a girl to fuck her, boner pill or no boner pill, if she is doing the clenched jaw, head turn from a DFK bit.

So it became one of my first questions during an upfront discussion with a girl. The list isn't that long but my first question has been; "Will you do romantic kissing with our tongues gently touching?" It's a deal killer and I will move on if the response is not a clear and somewhat enthusiastic Yes. I don't care if she "might" change her mind in the room. If the girl resists the idea upfront, I know 90% of the time our session will be crap.

In the case of dating site girls, video chatting a moment before asking the question greatly improves the chances for getting that clear Yes.

But I have to say that in the past few months I have encountered more girls who recoiled at the idea of DFK and walked away without hesitation from ~2,000 baht ST deals for fear of "Covid." I'm talking about girls standing in front of (closed) Thermae and online dating sites.

[CIMguy]

I am personally have trouble with the COVID test and insurance payments. They use the same online payment system. The payments will not go through from here, not matter which card / computer / browser I use and even Alipay didn't work. I think China is blocking payment to go to Thailand. I'm hoping I can get it worked out but I'm running out of time.

For those who have gone the Phuket route, how long did it take you to get your COE after you sent everything in? I have everything else done, just trying to pay for those last two things.

[CIMguy]

Hi guys,

What is the updated situation there right now. Can foreigners easily come after being vaccinated for covid or are there any other rules need to know?

Google "certificate of entry Thailand" and you'll find everything you need. There are additional hoops and it's a bit of a pain, but it's all doable. You need to be vaccinated and do a 2 week quarantine if you coming to anywhere other than Phuket or Samui. In those two places, you have to stay on the island and have COVID tests, but you are free to roam around.

[Explorer8939]

Hi guys,

What is the updated situation there right now. Can foreigners easily come after being vaccinated for covid or are there any other rules need to know?

You should investigate the Phuket sandbox.

[Explorer8939]

How terrible. You must not let them take advantage of you like that. Don't spoil them, pretty soon word will get around and all Thai girls will want to do that to mongers.

I am kind of joking here. I probably get a lot more pussy in mouth than tongue in mouth, it depends on the hardness of the bar girl. Almost everyone wants their pussy licked, the days of ladies showing up with sore pussies from too many customers are gone.

[Explorer8939]

I'm currently in Pattaya and have no issues getting DFK. When this started and the bars were first closed, Lisa bar girl I had played with several times, and I bought many LD's refused to come meet me. She was afraid of the Covid. Contacted her a few months later and still was afraid. By the time you get here, vaccination will be a requirement to work the bars. Right now the powers that be, are considering a Vaccine Pass for dine-in at restaurants.

Everyone in my circle of ladies knows that I am fully vaccinated. I get more DFK than I want, some girls do it after I lick the pussy of another girl.

I hope you are doing equally well in Pattaya.

A Farang I know is in the monkey house now due to drinking on Soi Chaiyapoon with 8 people. Allegedly, they were turned in by an informant.

[EihTooms]

For someone who has always liked DFK, especially with willing Thai girls, this is a devastating turn of events. I have to agree, based on my experiences with Thais, that Covid will be the excuse for many to eschew this aspect of full intimacy.

It had gotten to the point over the past few years where it was obvious I might not even get horny enough for a girl to fuck her, boner pill or no boner pill, if she is doing the clenched jaw, head turn from a DFK bit.

So it became one of my first questions during an upfront discussion with a girl. The list isn't that long but my first question has been; "Will you do romantic kissing with our tongues gently touching?" It's a deal killer and I will move on if the response is not a clear and somewhat enthusiastic Yes. I don't care if she "might" change her mind in the room. If the girl resists the idea upfront, I know 90% of the time our session will be crap.

In the case of dating site girls, video chatting a moment before asking the question greatly improves the chances for getting that clear Yes.

But I have to say that in the past few months I have encountered more girls who recoiled at the idea of DFK and walked away without hesitation from ~2,000 baht ST deals for fear of "Covid." I'm talking about girls standing in front of (closed) Thermae and online dating sites.

[Java Man]

For someone who has always liked DFK, especially with willing Thai girls, this is a devastating turn of events. I have to agree, based on my experiences with Thais, that Covid will be the excuse for many to eschew this aspect of full intimacy.

I'm currently in Pattaya and have no issues getting DFK. When this started and the bars were first closed, Lisa bar girl I had played with several times, and I bought many LD's refused to come meet me. She was afraid of the Covid. Contacted her a few months later and still was afraid. By the time you get here, vaccination will be a requirement to work the bars. Right now the powers that be, are considering a Vaccine Pass for dine-in at restaurants.

[Tomasb]

For someone who has always liked DFK, especially with willing Thai girls, this is a devastating turn of events. I have to agree, based on my experiences with Thais, that Covid will be the excuse for many to eschew this aspect of full intimacy.

I am with you on most of that. But I am hoping that once nearly everyone in Thailand has been vaccinated, which could easily take years unless an over the counter pill for it replaces the double injection drama soon, then, fingers crossed, the girls will over a reasonable amount of time experience and observe so little sickness for themselves and anyone else in their circle that many will drop irrational fears of those normal sexual behaviors.

[Polekaru]

Hi guys,

What is the updated situation there right now. Can foreigners easily come after being vaccinated for covid or are there any other rules need to know?

[Turgid]

I have ladies forcing me to kiss just about every day. Very intrusive.

Almost as bad as when they climb up and stick their pussy in my mouth.

How terrible. You must not let them take advantage of you like that. Don't spoil them, pretty soon word will get around and all Thai girls will want to do that to mongers.

[EihTooms]

A mask during sex is absurd and the girls demanding that will lose too many customers for it to become standard. Unfortunately, I'm afraid we can kiss DFK (proper mouth kissing) goodbye for several years after the pandemic, except with a handful of reckless girls who are up for anything.

I also expect a lot more of a paranoid attitudes and mechanical sex. While an occasional "no" and having limits is fine, in the past I had a few girls over-the-top paranoid about one thing or other and there's rarely a bigger turnoff.

Worst of all, the number of girls willing to enter the sex industry, or even veterans re-entering it, will be seriously reduced due to higher perceived risk.

If you think AIDS was bad, that was just an uncertain threat 10 year down the line, whereas Covid is a swift punishment that you also get to pass to your friends and family.

Vaccines will help, but at this point it's clear we won't eradicate Covid and that variants and mutations will remain around. Fears of close contact will persist for years even after Covid eventually becomes harmless to most people.

Once the pandemic subsides, our hobby is in for some dark times, not just in Thailand, but worldwide.

I am with you on most of that. But I am hoping that once nearly everyone in Thailand has been vaccinated, which could easily take years unless an over the counter pill for it replaces the double injection drama soon, then, fingers crossed, the girls will over a reasonable amount of time experience and observe so little sickness for themselves and anyone else in their circle that many will drop irrational fears of those normal sexual behaviors.

[EihTooms]

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And I found new girls profiles on Facebook from girls who were working in Soi 6 Pattaya and gogos in BKK and Pattaya, they only ask me to know if I'm in Pattaya or even in Thailand! We chat little bit, and some girls open the cam on their phone by facebook messenger or Line or Whasapp and when they're sexy I tell them directly I want fuck them bareback! They all say me yes but want money!
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Ah yes, that is the "surcharge" move I was talking about. I often agree to pay extra for BBFS+CIP in an upfront negotiation. I know you agree to pay a surcharge for bareback when necessary.

If the girls determine it is well established that they take on greater risk of anything potentially serious by engaging in DFK or BBBJ, it is not a stretch to foresee a time when girls who used to jam their tongue down our throat and face dive on our dick before our trousers fell down around our ankles will suddenly decide those behaviors require an extra "How much you pay me for that?" question, even if they really aren't the least bit concerned about the risks personally. It would be the right business move.

[EihTooms]

I left Thailand in January of 2020 for some medical treatment in the USA. The Thai treatment was ineffective and had to be redone. Now, 19 months later, having satisficed myself by myself with zero help, I assure you that sex with a mask on would indeed be real sex. That is certainly not my first choice but there is no substitute for real pussy. It's all about perspective. Be grateful for what you have.

Yes, it is true people can still engage in an act of sexual intercourse, with or without a condom, while wearing a mask. A better analogy would have been to relate it to the other behaviors cited in the report; kissing and oral sex.

In which case, the question is how many people would consider it Real Kissing, getting a Real Blowjob or Real DATY while the person doing it is wearing a mask. And I do mean wearing it properly over the mouth and nose, not pushed to the side, no holes cut out of it or anything like that. Lol

[Explorer8939]

A mask during sex is absurd and the girls demanding that will lose too many customers for it to become standard. Unfortunately, I'm afraid we can kiss DFK (proper mouth kissing) goodbye for several years after the pandemic, except with a handful of reckless girls who are up for anything.

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I have ladies forcing me to kiss just about every day. Very intrusive.

Almost as bad as when they climb up and stick their pussy in my mouth.