General Reports

[Turgid]

No you won't read that in any text books or anything based on empirical evidence, instead we should all take the word of the faceless resident expert on all matters who posts on a sex forum, without any actual facts. The issue isn't whether that mongers contribute, but whether it is as significant as they think it is.

I can name 2 Asian counties where western mongerers are very active Thai / Philippines and I can name 2 counties where mongers are very inactive. Thus by your logic the GDP growth rates in the first 2 counties should outstrip the latter?

Thai: 2.4% in 2019.

Philippines: 6%.

Indonesia 5%.

Vietnam: 7%.

So according to your logic sex tourists like you are somewhat useless to the countries that you visit.

[Franciscass]

As always it's relative to what one regards as significant.

Of course the sex industry contributes to the economy but in my opinion nowhere near as much as some members would have you believe. Because their life revolves around shagging and they live in mongering bubbles their understanding of the general economic activity of the country and specifically the tourism industry could understandably be somewhat limited.

Firstly the sex business needs to be broken down between local and tourist / expat demand and secondly tourism itself self needs to be broken down by those who come here for sex and those that don't.

The number of mongers visiting Walking Street, Cowboy, Nana, Bangla is tiny compared to the total number of tourists visiting the country often in tour groups from other Asian countries. Add in oilies soapies escorts, on line etc and I would hazard a guess that sex tourism adds at most 1% to 2 % to GDP but pre covid this still makes it a relatively significant 5 to 10 billion dollar business.

[Mr Enternational]

The issue isn't whether that mongers contribute, but whether it is as significant as they think it is.

Yep. Because since Covid those countries have pretty much been closed off to tourism/mongers and all the women and their families are now homeless and starving to death. I have yet to see a woman in one of these mongering countries that asked for money and died because I did not send it to her.

[MutantChicken]

Westerners including mongers contribute significantly to the Thai economy and that of those third world countries that they visit and live in. Countless millions of women worldwide are thus able to put food on the table of their families and nurture their children. You won't read that in any economics textbook.

No you won't read that in any text books or anything based on empirical evidence, instead we should all take the word of the faceless resident expert on all matters who posts on a sex forum, without any actual facts. The issue isn't whether that mongers contribute, but whether it is as significant as they think it is.

I can name 2 Asian counties where western mongerers are very active Thai / Philippines and I can name 2 counties where mongers are very inactive. Thus by your logic the GDP growth rates in the first 2 counties should outstrip the latter?

Thai: 2.4% in 2019.

Philippines: 6%.

Indonesia 5%.

Vietnam: 7%.

[Turgid]

We as westerners are indoctrinated to think we are all unique, special and have great value. I remember having a similar conversation with some sex tourists about China scene during the initial first yanda in Chang Ping. They kept saying how it wouldn't continue and that it will recover due to the activity contributing a good portion to the economy etc etc, well nearly 10 yrs later if anything commercial sex activities has gotten even more underground.

I predict as much of a proportion it contributes, it can be easily replaced with a source that doesn't bring as much stigma and national shame. It not only that westerners engage openly and publicly in a debauched manner, but their activities also bring western media who name and shames this activity, thus shining the spotlight. This plus, with the option of working online; will be the direction the international sex scene will be moving in. No more dens of debauchery, but discreet and private interludes between 2 consenting adults. Obviously the local scene will still operate as the powers that be won't want their fun interrupted, but foreigners will not be welcomed generally.

Westerners including mongers contribute significantly to the Thai economy and that of those third world countries that they visit and live in. Countless millions of women worldwide are thus able to put food on the table of their families and nurture their children. You won't read that in any economics textbook.

[MutantChicken]

I've read from various sources that tourism represents 15% to 20% of Thai economy. I'm curious what portion of the economy would be from ex-pats, assuming that ex-pat money is counted separately from tourism money.

Take the ladies away and a good portion of tourism and ex-pat money disappears from Thai economy.

We as westerners are indoctrinated to think we are all unique, special and have great value. I remember having a similar conversation with some sex tourists about China scene during the initial first yanda in Chang Ping. They kept saying how it wouldn't continue and that it will recover due to the activity contributing a good portion to the economy etc etc, well nearly 10 yrs later if anything commercial sex activities has gotten even more underground.

I predict as much of a proportion it contributes, it can be easily replaced with a source that doesn't bring as much stigma and national shame. It not only that westerners engage openly and publicly in a debauched manner, but their activities also bring western media who name and shames this activity, thus shining the spotlight. This plus, with the option of working online; will be the direction the international sex scene will be moving in. No more dens of debauchery, but discreet and private interludes between 2 consenting adults. Obviously the local scene will still operate as the powers that be won't want their fun interrupted, but foreigners will not be welcomed generally.

[HorseTrader]

Thailand also ranks among the top 10 in the Leisure Options subcategory (7th), with most ex-pats (82%) happy with their socializing and leisure activities (vs. 67% globally). Moreover, the country comes 7th out of 59 in the Personal Happiness subcategory, with 85% of ex-pats being happy with their life in general (vs. 75% globally).
I think the ladies play a big part in the aforementioned high rankings.

I've read from various sources that tourism represents 15% to 20% of Thai economy. I'm curious what portion of the economy would be from ex-pats, assuming that ex-pat money is counted separately from tourism money.

Take the ladies away and a good portion of tourism and ex-pat money disappears from Thai economy.

[Turgid]

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/05/1...ear-over-year/

Thailand also ranks among the top 10 in the Leisure Options subcategory (7th), with most ex-pats (82%) happy with their socializing and leisure activities (vs. 67% globally). Moreover, the country comes 7th out of 59 in the Personal Happiness subcategory, with 85% of ex-pats being happy with their life in general (vs. 75% globally).
I think the ladies play a big part in the aforementioned high rankings.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/05/1...ear-over-year/

[MonkeyPaw]

Very strange. Last weekend, the ladies were in Singapore. This weekend, they played in Pattaya. Maybe my math is off a bit, but I didn't count 14 days for quarantine, unless there was some time travel or manipulation going on. By the way, they don't have to wear masks, but somebody who is vaccinated and sitting alone in a their car has too. By the way, the ladies are staying at Avani and it's like a fortress.

Even more strange, COVID-19 supposedly has 14 days incubation from the time of contact. It's the guideline they use to establish how many quarantine days. However, an office was closed because somebody who was sick visited the office. All the staff was shipped off to 14 days quarantine. April 22 was the date the visitor made contact in the office. But the staff will be quarantined May 4-17.

Strangest of all is when that office staff was sent to quarantine. But when Jomtien Immigration was listed by officials on the track and trace timeline for an infection. It was business as usual with the same immigration staff in place. No quarantine necessary. This is why I have no guilt about how I live my life because it's pretty much all crooked.

[TConor]

Right now, all quarantine is 14 days.

But, your real question is how long will Thailand honor your vaccination. The real answer depends on what the scientific community concludes about the effective lifetime of your immunity. But that conclusion will not be reached for another 3 months or so. You may require a booster before September.

Note that the emergence of variants may also impact the efficacy of your vaccinations. Fortunately, all variants announced so far emerged prior to mass vaccination, so they (the virus) didn't have an opportunity to develop an immunity to the vaccines.

You hit the nail on the head.

[TourduMonde]

Yeah, I think we've all seen the shit show of the English Oxford vaccine where every government realized that it's not only ineffective but also dangerous, yet they are not banning it for political reasons.

How can you all be sure that the Western products are better the other ones at such a early stage?

The main way to tell that would be comparing the effects of vaccinating a load of people in England with the Oxford vaccine with the effects of vaccinating a load of people in Hungary with Sputnik and Sinovac.

Coronavirus deaths are down to a handful a day in England, whereas Hungary has done the most vaccinating in the EU (sinovac and sputnik are additional to the EU supplies of western vaccines) and they are not in a stronger position than the other EU countries as a result.

[Explorer8939]

It does not look good when there is no evidence that this vaccine is sufficiently effective. Remember last week that government official who said and then retracted that China would have to mix vaccines to get good results? Chile is still suffering from high cases of covid although they have widely distributed the sinopharm vaccine. No chinese or russian vaccine has undergone the rigorous scrutiny of the western vaccines.

Chile has not vaccinated enough people to know whether the Sinovac vaccine is going to be sufficient to achieve herd immunity.

[Explorer8939]

Hi.

Please help my confusion regarding Quarantine time in Thailand.

I received my final 2nd Covid-19 vaccine jab in March 2021.

If I arrive in Thailand September 2021, will I be quarantine for 7 or 10 days?

Thanks.

TC.

Right now, all quarantine is 14 days.

But, your real question is how long will Thailand honor your vaccination. The real answer depends on what the scientific community concludes about the effective lifetime of your immunity. But that conclusion will not be reached for another 3 months or so. You may require a booster before September.

Note that the emergence of variants may also impact the efficacy of your vaccinations. Fortunately, all variants announced so far emerged prior to mass vaccination, so they (the virus) didn't have an opportunity to develop an immunity to the vaccines.

[TConor]

Hi.

Please help my confusion regarding Quarantine time in Thailand.

I received my final 2nd Covid-19 vaccine jab in March 2021.

If I arrive in Thailand September 2021, will I be quarantine for 7 or 10 days?

Thanks.

TC.

Which means they way things go here, without a booster your past the effectiveness of your shots. No COE.