General Reports

[Beijingrichard]

I have RTFFed and, other than an influx of Chinese (which I find strange since you're supposed to spend it in your ancestral home) I don't see much about the Lunar New Year. Do Thais observe it and, if so, is there much impact on the mongering?

I spent it in Beijing last year and I'll be damned if I'm doing it again. I was extremely relaxed after two weeks in Thailand and then I couldn't sleep for two weeks due to fireworks 24 hours a day.

[Traveler1234]

LOL, true enough. They love the money, but there is the whole issue of losing face. It is probably more of a problem if you take one girl for a day or two and then take another one. I imagine if you spread the word from day one you were taking a different one every night, that would not be a problem.

You're 99% correct, I was merely injecting some humor. Unless you tell them it's purely 'business', one should not jump from girl to girl at L's bar. In fact, I seldom BF from there, usually buy them drinks, help my clients and/or friends find the 'right' gal, and get my own take-out elsewhere.

OT, did you get an email from our favorite escort service in KL....did he raise prices again?

Hope to hook up sometime in 2008.

[Thor93]

Rbamane

As far as being a butterfly, don't listen to Tho; 93 - first, he's being overly modest; second, the girls at Livingstones luv butterflies, especially those that carry a lot of green

LOL, true enough. They love the money, but there is the whole issue of losing face. It is probably more of a problem if you take one girl for a day or two and then take another one. I imagine if you spread the word from day one you were taking a different one every night, that would not be a problem.

Always remember though - Thai girls are among the most jealous women on the face of the earth, even the working girls. As long as you keep it straight business, no problem, but express anything more and even though you are paying, they think they own you.

[Traveler1234]

Yes, it is technically the Livingstones Sports Bar which is located in the Livingstone Lodge. You can even put the girls bar fine on your hotel bill. For those of you on an expense account it shows up as an innocent looking charge from the bar. It might even be more generic than that.

It it possible to go there and spend a week or two and never leave the hotel and have a different girl every night, although I suspect that might cause some problems with the girls. You would be pegged as the ultimate butterfly.

Rbamane

Besides the bar in livingstone's lodge, there are a plethora of bars up/down Soi 33. Two of my favorites are Monet and The Office. If you do decide to patronize these 'upscale' bars, first do your homework on which ones to avoid, etc. Giotto did a good summary of these bars on his thread.

Plus the barfines and ST/LT costs are substantially higher on Soi 33 than say Nana or Soi Cowboy (but less than escort services or private 'clubs').

As far as being a butterfly, don't listen to Tho; 93 - first, he's being overly modest; second, the girls at Livingstones luv butterflies, especially those that carry a lot of green

[Thor93]

Thanks buddy - that was really what I wanted to know. It helps .
Is Livingstones bar the same as the Livingstone Lodge or is it different from it?
Good luck!

Yes, it is technically the Livingstones Sports Bar which is located in the Livingstone Lodge. You can even put the girls bar fine on your hotel bill. For those of you on an expense account it shows up as an innocent looking charge from the bar. It might even be more generic than that.

It it possible to go there and spend a week or two and never leave the hotel and have a different girl every night, although I suspect that might cause some problems with the girls. You would be pegged as the ultimate butterfly.

[Daddy San]

You've obviously never been hassled by a over-zealous customs agent who is looking for evidence of child pornography and finds pics of perfectly legal but young LOOKING girls. Not fun, and potentially devastating. Which is why some people do indeed give two shits.

To avoid ANY kind of hassle (from customs, wifey and any other inquisitive folks), I simply encrypt the containers with my whoring files using PGPdisk. TrueCrypt is just as good. DON'T use Windiws file encryption. This automatically decrypts all files as soon as you log in (or so I believe).

[Shomohin]

every month or so the topic of hard drive searches are brought up. i can never help but wonder what the fuck some of you guys are so scared of getting caught with. surely so long as you are not doing anything wrong, ie **** boys etc, then what can be so bad that a customs official is going to bang you up for. as long as the girls in the pictures clearly willing and do not look as though they have been forced into the shots, who gives two shits about where you store the images.
sid

you've obviously never been hassled by a over-zealous customs agent who is looking for evidence of child pornography and finds pics of perfectly legal but young looking girls. not fun, and potentially devastating. which is why some people do indeed give two shits.

[Dirty Tom]

Thanks buddy - that was really what I wanted to know. It helps .
Is Livingstones bar the same as the Livingstone Lodge or is it different from it?
Good luck!

Here is a hint, go into most any bar, take out a couple of 1000 baht notes and wave them around. The best looking girls will materialize in front of your eyes.

Seriously, in Bkk it is absolutely no problem to find top notch girls. You just may have to pay a bit more for the very best, but then most Thai girls in the P4P venues are pretty decent to start with.

There are few places in the world where good looking women are as readily available as they are in Thailand. Of course you have to like Asian women, not many big breasted blondes available in Thailand.

I have spent a lot of time in Ipanema and the old Top Ten in Singapore. There are places in Bkk where the selection is better. Go top dollar and head to Spasso's or CM2. You will pay more, but the girls are made up and dressed to kill. Of course they are no different then what you get down at the go-go bars. You just have to pay for the make-up and clothes.

Another option is to head on down to Livingstones or the other bars on Soi 33. You will pay more but the quality is theorectically better. Real life though is you can find top quality in a lot of different places. Just go and look.

[SidTheSexist]

every month or so the topic of hard drive searches are brought up. i can never help but wonder what the fuck some of you guys are so scared of getting caught with. surely so long as you are not doing anything wrong, ie **** boys etc, then what can be so bad that a customs official is going to bang you up for. as long as the girls in the pictures clearly willing and do not look as though they have been forced into the shots, who gives two shits about where you store the images. and for christ sake, you have managed to sign up to an internet forum to ask these questions, why does it take trav1234 to tell you to set up a hotmail add with 10gb storage, every time the question is asked.
sid

[Traveler1234]

thor - with 8gb flash drives out there for $50 or so and given that they are "tiny" (pocket sized - about the size of a pack of chewing gum) and easily encrypted as well, why would someone keep pix on the hard drive?

it's so easy to set up email accounts for free...gmail, yahoo, etc have virtually unlimited storage capacity - upload and keep out of sight. if something happens to you, your email disappears from the public forever!

ps - above assumes you're not some fucking pervert hiding child porn or other shit. and slightly off topic - us laws now say that if you engage in **** sex/prostitution overseas, you can and will be prosecuted in us courts. be good boys

[Traveler1234]

Thanks, but I understand that your relaxed attitude comes from your prior experiences at BKK - it will be my first... so thats why it concerns me

Actually, as I get older (and older), I am less picky with looks and more concerned with service. If you're uptight about getting 9/10's, you'll end up jacking off rather than having fun.....

If you are really worried, suggest you go to some of the upscale private clubs or escort services....you'll get your 9/10 lookers but for a price. I can't guaranee service....maybe others might be more helpful

[Dinghy]

Thor - with 8gb flash drives out there for $50 or so and given that they are "tiny" (pocket sized - about the size of a pack of chewing gum) and easily encrypted as well, why would someone keep pix on the hard drive? They can look at my laptop anytime they want - my pix are actually on a card in my pocket (and it's also encrypted). You don't carry anything on the computer you don't want them to see. Better yet give them something mundane

In the case of Ickes - what if he stands up and says "I don't remember it any more". He shouldn't have "refused" - just have taken the lawyer's approach of "not to my recollection - I don't remember". Then they can go [CodeWord140] up a rope

[Member #2041]

One thing that I still find unanswered is that how to get the better looking gals, and not the roadside cheap prostitutes (I often read about the Nana hotel parking lot) - not sure how those gals are but from the pics in the Photos section they do not look all that beautiful. -R.

You're absolutely correct - they're mostly all ugly. I suggest you stay home, or keep frequenting those other venues you are used to, and leave the ugly Thai ladies for all of the rest of us.

[Thor93]

So should I assume that within the lot of all of them, I should be able to find the good ones pretty easy?

Here is a hint, go into most any bar, take out a couple of 1000 baht notes and wave them around. The best looking girls will materialize in front of your eyes.

Seriously, in Bkk it is absolutely no problem to find top notch girls. You just may have to pay a bit more for the very best, but then most Thai girls in the P4P venues are pretty decent to start with.

There are few places in the world where good looking women are as readily available as they are in Thailand. Of course you have to like Asian women, not many big breasted blondes available in Thailand.

I have spent a lot of time in Ipanema and the old Top Ten in Singapore. There are places in Bkk where the selection is better. Go top dollar and head to Spasso's or CM2. You will pay more, but the girls are made up and dressed to kill. Of course they are no different then what you get down at the go-go bars. You just have to pay for the make-up and clothes.

Another option is to head on down to Livingstones or the other bars on Soi 33. You will pay more but the quality is theorectically better. Real life though is you can find top quality in a lot of different places. Just go and look.

[Dirty Tom]

You can find beautiful girls all over SE Asia. I have picked up a few stunners in OT Singapore, and quite a few in BKK. The big difference for me is cost/attitude, where BKK wins hands down IMHO. The other difference is make-up - and you are more likely to be 'seduced' by a girl wearing full war-paint in Ipanema than a secretay earning some extra cash by working at the Beergarden or Nana car-park. If you want the full glamour look try the discos and the go-go bars. But as many reports will tell you, the most beautiful girls will not always provide the best experience (in fact usually the opposite). But in any case, you will not have to settle with ugly ones if you don't want to...

So should I assume that within the lot of all of them, I should be able to find the good ones pretty easy?