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  1. #12449
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Thailand is not Christian nor is it governed by nuclear families. It is a collective. There are some collective cultures where the men fuck the same women. Does not matter who the father is because the kid will be raised by the village regardless.

    I think you are saying you were not trying to be facetious. Me either! If you are trying to understand the Thai perspective of anything then you are a glutton for punishment. It will not make sense to you because you are not Thai people.

    A buddy of mine has lived in Thailand since the 80s. A woman in a Mercedes rear ended him. She told the police it was his fault because he had no business driving in Thailand anyway. Nevermind he has lived in Thailand since before she was even born.

    Another buddy's car was recently hit by a kid on a motorbike who was underage with no license AND had taken the bike without permission. The kid was badly injured, the motorbike was totalled, and my friend needed a new car door. My friend negotiated a payment a little over $1000 for the kid and the bike repairs.

    The next example is adjusted for a country that drives on the right. You come to an intersection and you are about to turn left. The cars from the cross street that are about to turn left onto the street you are on will turn in on your right hand side then cross over to the proper lane once they have passed you.

    This is the Thai perspective. Are you understanding any of this yet?
    This does happen to farang but more likely its either a old expat with a former BG wife who doesn't speak Thai or a tourist. A expat that can converse in Thai and has Thai friends is less likely to have stuff like this happen. Its very much a country of who you know. The typical older expat knows his wife and her family and that's it when it comes to Thai people.

  2. #12448
    There's excessive nationalism and corrupt law enforcement in every Country. That doesn't make much sense.

  3. #12447
    Quote Originally Posted by GuyBrusg1957  [View Original Post]
    We already know the answer to that it's conservative cultural norms largely driven from Christianity and the Nuclear Family. So my question is, what is different about Thailand?
    Thailand is not Christian nor is it governed by nuclear families. It is a collective. There are some collective cultures where the men fuck the same women. Does not matter who the father is because the kid will be raised by the village regardless.

    Quote Originally Posted by GuyBrusg1957  [View Original Post]
    I'm not attempting to be factious.
    I think you are saying you were not trying to be facetious. Me either! If you are trying to understand the Thai perspective of anything then you are a glutton for punishment. It will not make sense to you because you are not Thai people.

    A buddy of mine has lived in Thailand since the 80s. A woman in a Mercedes rear ended him. She told the police it was his fault because he had no business driving in Thailand anyway. Nevermind he has lived in Thailand since before she was even born.

    Another buddy's car was recently hit by a kid on a motorbike who was underage with no license AND had taken the bike without permission. The kid was badly injured, the motorbike was totalled, and my friend needed a new car door. My friend negotiated a payment a little over $1000 for the kid and the bike repairs.

    The next example is adjusted for a country that drives on the right. You come to an intersection and you are about to turn left. The cars from the cross street that are about to turn left onto the street you are on will turn in on your right hand side then cross over to the proper lane once they have passed you.

    This is the Thai perspective. Are you understanding any of this yet?

  4. #12446
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    A better question would be why is it suppresed in other places. Fucking is a bodily function. For some reason Americans act like it is more than it is, while still managing to miss their own mark. A few years back a monk spoke publicly saying these foreigners are coming and paying you for sex; don't miss your blessing.
    We already know the answer to that it's conservative cultural norms largely driven from Christianity and the Nuclear Family. So my question is, what is different about Thailand?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Well good luck with that if the Thais' perspective of anything is the one you are trying to understand.
    I'm not attempting to be factious.

  5. #12445

    Zen and the art of bodily functions

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    A better question would be why is it suppresed in other places. Fucking is a bodily function. For some reason Americans act like it is more than it is, while still missing their own mark. A few years back a monk spoke publicly saying these foreigners are coming and paying you for sex; don't miss your blessing.
    Enough said. Can't add more. Thank you.

  6. #12444

    Re sexuality in Thailand

    Quote Originally Posted by GuyBrusg1957  [View Original Post]
    I apologize if this isn't the right place for it but is anyone able to recommend any reading on Thailand views on human sexuality? Or basically, why is there so much of a sex trade in Asia beyond simply economics.

    I can't find it at the moment but there was one poster who mentioned how it was insulting so many Westerners assume that many of the women are all from poor farming villages. When I read this, I immediately agreed but I'm having trouble articling my feelings on that.

    To explain further, I'm that weird American trying to understand a different cultures perspective. For example, when kids hit puberty do Thai parents have the "talk" like Western Parents? What is taught in school for sex ed?
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4706588/

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4208941/

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3272438/

    https://kinseyinstitute.org/pdf/ccies-thailand.pdf

    A later (online) version of the above encyclopedia requires institutional access: https://www.oxfordreference.com/view...199754700-e-55.

  7. #12443
    Quote Originally Posted by GuyBrusg1957  [View Original Post]
    I apologize if this isn't the right place for it but is anyone able to recommend any reading on Thailand views on human sexuality? Or basically, why is there so much of a sex trade in Asia beyond simply economics.
    A better question would be why is it suppresed in other places. Fucking is a bodily function. For some reason Americans act like it is more than it is, while still managing to miss their own mark. A few years back a monk spoke publicly saying these foreigners are coming and paying you for sex; don't miss your blessing.

    I saw a video the other day from a Los Angeles news station about an increase in SW there. At the end the cop said we are getting nowhere arresting these chicks, so we will stop arresting them and instead concentrate on arresting the guys that come looking for them. Ain't that some shit? https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/web/vi...90EyL71VxrH97G

    Quote Originally Posted by GuyBrusg1957  [View Original Post]
    I can't find it at the moment but there was one poster who mentioned how it was insulting so many Westerners assume that many of the women are all from poor farming villages. When I read this, I immediately agreed but I'm having trouble articling my feelings on that.
    You said many and all. Well "many" would be true, while "all" would not be. Don't know why people would find the truth insulting.

    Quote Originally Posted by GuyBrusg1957  [View Original Post]
    To explain further, I'm that weird American trying to understand a different cultures perspective.
    Well good luck with that if the Thais' perspective of anything is the one you are trying to understand.

  8. #12442
    I apologize if this isn't the right place for it but is anyone able to recommend any reading on Thailand views on human sexuality? Or basically, why is there so much of a sex trade in Asia beyond simply economics.

    I can't find it at the moment but there was one poster who mentioned how it was insulting so many Westerners assume that many of the women are all from poor farming villages. When I read this, I immediately agreed but I'm having trouble articling my feelings on that.

    To explain further, I'm that weird American trying to understand a different cultures perspective. For example, when kids hit puberty do Thai parents have the "talk" like Western Parents? What is taught in school for sex ed?

  9. #12441
    Quote Originally Posted by NicFrenchy  [View Original Post]
    Being Vaccinated does not mean anything at the moment, it's not proven to work. Give it a few months, things may change. It's too early to speculate about 2021.
    I agree with " welcome back stud " I would normally not agree with anything a Thai leader is saying but he is pretty much on the mark reading the article he basically is saying it to too early which is correct as you noted. Thailand doesn't even have their hands on it none and won't until January when AstraZ is approved by their FDA? Then you got the countries out there who got it and it requires two shots put that inline it really is too early to start letting people in even if they got the two shots. We are talking 2 months easily if it works the rules will come down accordingly?

  10. #12440
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBoy99  [View Original Post]
    https://thepattayanews.com/2020/12/2...ay-quarantine/

    What regular tourist is going to do 14 days locked in a hotel room when he has been vaccinated?
    Being Vaccinated does not mean anything at the moment, it's not proven to work. Give it a few months, things may change. It's too early to speculate about 2021.

  11. #12439

    Forget about going to Thailand in 2021

    https://thepattayanews.com/2020/12/2...ay-quarantine/

    What regular tourist is going to do 14 days locked in a hotel room when he has been vaccinated?

  12. #12438
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    I'm starting to hear actual stories of guys I know through a friend from various countries are getting in to Thailand now via STV. So as long as you can work virtually and can endure the 14 days in a quarantine hotel looks like a green light to go to Thailand.
    I wonder if all coutnries have the same policy for STV but I doubt it.

    For my country: To apply for a visa, submit:

    1) Criminal Certificate issued by the country of residence or by one's country of origin (validity not exceeding 3 months);.

    2) Medical Certificate, issued in the country of submission of the visa application, certifying that you are not suffering from diseases not allowed in the territory as per Ministerial Regulation No. 14 (B. E. 2535) (validity of the Certificate not exceeding 3 months).

    3) Health Insurance Policy with the following requirements: minimum validity of 90 days (from the date of arrival) or the entire period of stay in Thailand; Coverage for outpatient services in Thailand of no less than 40,000 THB; Coverage for hospitalization in Thailand of no less than 400,000 THB; coverage for all medical expenses, including COVID-19 not less than $ 100,000.

    To purchase insurance from Thai Companies approved by the Office of Insurance Commission of Thailand, visit https://longstay.tgia.org/home/companiesstv.

    4) Confirmation of long-term accommodation, between:

    - hotel reservation confirmed with advance payment for the entire duration of the stay in Thailand (after the 14-day quarantine). The reservation must be issued by the hotel and must indicate the length of stay, the hotel contacts and the Hotel Tax Code;.

    - Residential lease with advance payment for the entire duration of the stay in Thailand (after the 14-day quarantine). The lease contract must be issued by the landlord and must indicate the length of stay, the landlord's contacts and the tax code of the same;.

    - Installment purchase agreement or real estate loan agreement; OR deed of ownership of a condominium.

    Point 1 is not free and need some time to get it in my country.

    Point 2 check the pdf file.

    Point 3 ok.

    Point 4 this is a no go. Sure, I don't pay in advance the accomodation for 6 or 9 months.
    Attached Files

  13. #12437
    I'm starting to hear actual stories of guys I know through a friend from various countries are getting in to Thailand now via STV. So as long as you can work virtually and can endure the 14 days in a quarantine hotel looks like a green light to go to Thailand. I think most of us work from home now anyways so take 1 or 2 vacation days to fly to Thailand and you're set. Hurry now before the new variant messes things up.

    If you're waiting for the 14 day quarantine hotel to disappear any time soon I wouldn't hold my breath on that.

  14. #12436
    Christian,

    There's a bit more detail on https://www.bangkokpost.com/life/soc...-things-stand-.

    Have admit I overlooked the latest change because the original proposal was for the extension to be available from September next year.

  15. #12435
    Quote Originally Posted by CenTexCrash  [View Original Post]
    Does anyone in the grapevine foresee any easing of travel restrictions by February?

    I could almost swear I read somewhere if you apply for entry 60 days in advance, you get in with PCR test. Maybe I'm mistaken idk.
    This link might be of help: https://coethailand.mfa.go.th/regis/step?language=en.

    To my novice interpretation it says:

    1) Apply for a Certificate of Entry (COE).

    After the COE is processed:

    2) Provide flight, quarantine hotel (ASQ) and proof of valid CoVid health insurance coverage inside Thailand info.

    After your COE has been approved:

    3) Obtain a negative CoVid test and a Fit to Fly certificate within 72 hours of departure.

    SL.

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