2006 Bangkok Reports

[Tiny 12]

I've never had that happen to me either. In fact, the women I've pulled from Soi 33 on average have been more enthusiastic, more into me, and more GFE. Maybe it's because they don't get barfined so often, or are looking for a longer term customer -- a higher % of the customers in these bars are white collar workers living in Bangkok. Soi 33 might be a happy hunting ground for a woman looking for a potential meal ticket who doesn't want to get screwed by a different man every day.

Anyway, I have a friend who was left high and dry after he paid his 1400 Baht and wined and dined a woman. She said the barfine doesn't guarantee sex. But I guess the same thing could happen anywhere. Anyway after that I always confirmed sex was on the agenda before barfining on Soi 33. Like discussing which hotel we were going to.

I have never had one of those girls leave with me and not get sex, so I don't think that's an issue.

[AsiaTraveler2]

AT2,
Sadly I'm a monger in Thailand for many years but still yet to try an Upmarket Hostess Club, unless we count Livingstone's Lodge Sports Bar which I guess is a little upmarket with going too far. I just remembered I did go to the Club with Philipino Singers/Dancers but didn't take a hostess girl away.

Now once (or more) I was walking past Christies in Soi 33 when my jaw dropped on seeing the stunning girl working on the door.
For some strange reason I was too embarrassed to hang around and order a drink at the outside table, or was in a hurry.
Would Christies be worth checking out (anyone)? Are the girls on the door likely to be available, assuming that she is a class above all those inside?
I don't mind paying extra for a truelly 1 in several hundred type of superior girl but not for very average girls.

I was tricked into trying a salty scrispy depp fried grub at Livingstone Sports Bar but no true Bugs as yet.

Thanks for the tips on Catherines, Utopia, I have been meaning to try Utopia for a while based on recommendation from a soapie girl but was too busy on last trip.

Mick,

Yes, I had a good time at Christies and Dali. Fewer customers and more laid back. Most girls are ok, but you can find some stunners in these places. It's hit and miss. The best looking girl I have seen was in one of the two bars I just mentioned. Unfortunately, like Tiny 12 mentioned, not all of the girls will actually go with you. That stunner spoke zero english and did not want to go with a non Thai speaking man (Yes .. I believed her! LOL!). I have never had one of those girls leave with me and not get sex, so I don't think that's an issue.

As far as I can tell, all of the girls are available to the right man! LOL! I have not had any of them say that a girl was not available. I did get other hotties from those clubs, who had no issues with going with me, so I think it's a YMMV issue. I also agree with Tiny 12, that the english speaking ability seems on average, lower than Nana or Soi Cowboy. I believe you speak Thai, so that would not be an issue for you.

The one place I want to get a handle on is the Pent Executive Club (Wireless road?). I went there twice with a host. There are some hot woman there, but lots of customers too, so many good ones may be locked up. The mama will set you up with some options. It seems more like a hostess type set up with a band playing on stage, but I did get take out with a young hottie.

The host took care of the bill, so I'm not sure what the exact system is. I did not want to ask too many questions, since I did not really know the host that well. A friend of a friend. It appears that you buy the girls drinks for their companionship and I assumed the barfine was an option. If take out is not normally an option, then it takes a lot of the luster off this place. I have heard another poster review the place and said there's no barfine system. I have heard from others, that there is. What gives with this place? Did my host pull strings?

I need to get back there on my own, so I can get more info.

AT2

[AsiaTraveler2]

5 days of fun.

Mauldid,

Shit! You have nothing to worry about! Without traffic, 30 minutes tops to either airport and about an hour if there is. Enjoy!

By the way, fun is what you have at Disneyland. You are in for more than just fun! LOL!

AT2

[AsiaTraveler2]

Hi all,

I need some help from you guys.

I will be in Bangkok from the 7th of October leaving on the 11th (4 nights). I have RTFF and I have decided to stay at one of 2 hotels. Both are priced at 1200b, have no joiners fee and are on soi 15
1-The Manhattan
2-The Ruamchitt Plaza & Hotel

Champs,

There's a hotel thread that this should be posted in. You are in the wrong thread. I would say forget about the breakfast. You can find good eats around town. I always want the in-room safe. Leaving cash in a safe deposit box at the reception desk is a pain in the butt.

My 2 cents.

AT2

[Kaukaukane]

I had reservations for a single room on 22-26 Aug and discovered that Manhattan has a Joiner Fee of THB500 after 6 PM. Book a double room and I believe you can avoid the charge. I decided to not stay and took the penalty charge for the room.

[Elmerfud]

I will add my 2 cents worth. Only went once 4 years ago. It was quite an experience for a new commer to Bangkok! I developed warts on my asshole which was licked liberally by one of the ladies. I had no other anal play on that trip so there is no doubt where it came from. Very painful to have frozen off and expensive, burning cream to be applier for at least 30 days following.

I will not be back but YMMV.

Cactus J

Had that on my dick about 30 years ago , not painful at all , and only had some kind of brownish cream apply on the warts (2 or 3 ) with a q tips and it was gone in a matter of a few month and never came back.

[Champs1000]

Hi all,

I need some help from you guys.

I will be in Bangkok from the 7th of October leaving on the 11th (4 nights). I have RTFF and I have decided to stay at one of 2 hotels. Both are priced at 1200b, have no joiners fee and are on soi 15
1-The Manhattan
2-The Ruamchitt Plaza & Hotel

Now both have there good and bad sides compared to each other.
The Manhattan:
Good:
a. Large in-room safe
b. Breakfast is included
Bad:
a. Small room
b. Old looking and bit run down
c. Bathroom are small

The Ruamchitt Plaza & Hotel
Good:
a. big room
b. Nicer looking
c. Travel office and tailor in-house
Bad:
a. No Breakfast included
b. No in-room safe

If you have stayed there or have first hand knowledge of those hotels can you help me get an insight on which one is the better of the two for a 4 night stay?

Now if you have an alternative to those 2 in the same price range, great location, no joiner fees and near soi Cowboy, please let me know.

You can post a reply or PM me.

Thanks a million yawl

Champs1000

[Sean_Double]

Evil,

Yes I enjoyed everything about Eden except the problem I mentioned. I don't doubt your assessment of how it is transmitted I only know that to the best of my recolection I had no other anal experiences within the year prior. A friend on mine's wife has vaginal warts and he must go in and have them frozen off of his dick, and I thought the ass was painful! Nothing has happened to change my mind on Eden, I personally just will not go back.

Cactus J

Yo Cactus J,

I don't doubt it was a painful experience, and I admit I don't know much about venereal warts... thankfully.

Here's my question: How did your friend's wife explain the vaginal warts that infected her husband? Were they newly married?, have an open marriage, or did she blame him for giving them to her?

Cheers,
Sean

[HenryV]

Achieved Go-Go, Freelancer, and Super Soapie.

The problem I have with Eden now is the idea of anal warts (as mentioned in previouls post). That tends to scare you off.

Thanks for the "to-do list."

Billpsu,

If I could make a suggestion, if you have the time, here's my BKK sampler platter:

1 Super Soapie (Poseidon, Utopia, etc.) There are at least a dozen that are worth visiting. Be sure to check out the "models" in the bar areas.

1 Go-Go (Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, etc.)

1 Oil Massage w/FS (Angels, Subway etc.). In this category, there are variations such as Akane (HJ with Japanese lube) or Sazanka (Salt Scrub, massage and HJ finish).

1 Freelancer (Nana Car Park, Siam Hotel backstreet, Beer Garden, Gullivers, Nightclubs like CM2, Hard Rock, etc.)

1 Gentlemens\Membership club (Pent Executive, Pegasus, etc.). Note - A membership is not actually needed.

1 Soi 33 Bar (Many to choose from and all within easy walking distance from each other).

1 Fried Bug (If you buy this one, then my opinion carries much more weight than I thought).

There are many more options, but those are the highlights that I can think of for the first timer in BKK. I would add that Eden does deliver a unique experience, so I would not write that one off entirely. It depends what you are looking for.

Peace,
AT2

[Cactus J]

Evil,

Yes I enjoyed everything about Eden except the problem I mentioned. I don't doubt your assessment of how it is transmitted I only know that to the best of my recolection I had no other anal experiences within the year prior. A friend on mine's wife has vaginal warts and he must go in and have them frozen off of his dick, and I thought the ass was painful! Nothing has happened to change my mind on Eden, I personally just will not go back.

Cactus J

[Tiny 12]

Asiatraveler summed it up pretty well already, but I'll add my opinion. Following can be advantages or disadvantages, depending on your point of view.

1. On average, bars are classier (decor is nicer) and quieter than Nana/Soi Cowboy/Patpong. There's no go-go dancing.
2. Women wear evening dresses in many of the bars. They'll change to their regular clothes before leaving if barfined.
3. While I agree with Asiatraveler that the majority of the women are what you'll find elsewhere, only dressed up, there are exceptions. I've met university students in Soi 33 bars that were serious students.
4. There's a higher percentage of expatriates and businessmen among the clientelle, vs. sex tourists (like most of us).
5. On average mileage on the women is less, unless of course they hang out in Soi 7 during the daytime, used to work at Nana, etc. That has its own advantages and disadvantages -- do you prefer someone fresh or someone experienced?
6. The flip side of "5", the reason the mileage is less is because of 1500 Baht bar fines. Drink prices are also higher. The women get part of the barfine, so theoretically you should be able to pay them less than what you'd pay a comparable girl from, say, Nana or Patpong. But it doesn't always work out that way.
7. A higher % of the women in the bars won't have sex with you. This can be annoying if you're buying someone high priced drinks and then find out she won't leave with you. And it can be really annoying if you pay the barfine and then find out she won't sleep with you, although that's never happened to me. You can avoid these problems by asking before you buy.
8. Some may argue with me on this, but on average I think the English skills of the girls on Soi 33 aren't as good as Nana or Soi Cowboy.
9. There are decent women in the bars early in the evening. In fact, the best time to go is before 9:00 PM if you're drinking. The bars have happy hour specials that make drink prices competitive with other venues.
10. I haven't seen a lot of real stunners in Soi 33, and a couple of the ones I have seen wouldn't have sex with customers.

Please explain advantages/disadvantages of "the Soi 33 places."

Thank you.

[Long Time Boy]

If you're in the Suk area and not up for a trip all the way to the big time soaps, Darlings is not a bad spot. Bit rundown and the papasan was a bit greasy. The line-up on the night I was there (Wednesday) was quite light on. I asked for the previoulsy reviewed Pim or Pam or somehthing like that. Papasan went out the back and got her. She was cute and small and smiled (like most, but she had something cool about her) and so it was a deal.

In room, it was all by the book. Mutual washing, bath with great body slides, Ok massage, BBBJ, CFS and so on. It was good, it was fun and it was good value. Was it a wild time, an erotic fanatasy; no. But I guess it depends a lot on the girl and YMMV.

Worth another try.

Keep 'rootin' 'n reportin'

LTB

[Long Time Boy]

The experience I had at Sazanka was among the best I have had. As my name implies I have been mongering for quite some time, too long really and Sazanka is really there. Not so much for the erotic aspects (nothing really beats a swingers party in Sydney or Paris or FKK in Germany) but as a total body experience it's really hard to beat. Anyway there was nothing more than HJ, but what a hand job.

Other posts have gone over the procedure. The Sazanka massage was the option I chose. The menu of girls was too complicated and so I went with the papasan's recommendation. Wouldn't normally do that, but, Giotto's and other reviews suggested it was ok here - and it certainly was.

Cut to the chase. The shower, body scrub and massage are about as good as you'll get at any legit massage place and right up there with Korean scrubs I've had in Soeul. The thing is, after such a good massage you are so relaxed that you almost forget about what's coming up (well maybe not).

The HJ was so well integrated into the whole service and so well done that it was close to an out of body experience! If believed all that alternative medicine stuff I'd say I'd reached some astral plain. I particularly liked the way she put my legs on either side of her and my arse in her lap. The opened me up completely and allowed All Areas Access. What a trip!

This experience was all about quality not PSE. Club Eden is for PSE, this is for a more relaxing, but still highly sexual experience.

Keep rootin' 'n reportin'

LTB

[M P Lurker]

Billpsu,

If I could make a suggestion, if you have the time, here's my BKK sampler platter:

1 Super Soapie (Poseidon, Utopia, etc.) There are at least a dozen that are worth visiting. Be sure to check out the "models" in the bar areas.

1 Go-Go (Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, etc.)

1 Oil Massage w/FS (Angels, Subway etc.). In this category, there are variations such as Akane (HJ with Japanese lube) or Sazanka (Salt Scrub, massage and HJ finish).

1 Freelancer (Nana Car Park, Siam Hotel backstreet, Beer Garden, Gullivers, Nightclubs like CM2, Hard Rock, etc.)

1 Gentlemens\Membership club (Pent Executive, Pegasus, etc.). Note - A membership is not actually needed.

1 Soi 33 Bar (Many to choose from and all within easy walking distance from each other).

1 Fried Bug (If you buy this one, then my opinion carries much more weight than I thought).

There are many more options, but those are the highlights that I can think of for the first timer in BKK. I would add that Eden does deliver a unique experience, so I would not write that one off entirely. It depends what you are looking for.

Peace,
AT2

AT2,
Sadly I'm a monger in Thailand for many years but still yet to try an Upmarket Hostess Club, unless we count Livingstone's Lodge Sports Bar which I guess is a little upmarket with going too far. I just remembered I did go to the Club with Philipino Singers/Dancers but didn't take a hostess girl away.

Now once (or more) I was walking past Christies in Soi 33 when my jaw dropped on seeing the stunning girl working on the door.
For some strange reason I was too embarrassed to hang around and order a drink at the outside table, or was in a hurry.
Would Christies be worth checking out (anyone)? Are the girls on the door likely to be available, assuming that she is a class above all those inside?
I don't mind paying extra for a truelly 1 in several hundred type of superior girl but not for very average girls.

I was tricked into trying a salty scrispy depp fried grub at Livingstone Sports Bar but no true Bugs as yet.

Thanks for the tips on Catherines, Utopia, I have been meaning to try Utopia for a while based on recommendation from a soapie girl but was too busy on last trip.

[Evil Penivel]

I will add my 2 cents worth. Only went once 4 years ago. It was quite an experience for a new commer to Bangkok! I developed warts on my asshole which was licked liberally by one of the ladies. I had no other anal play on that trip so there is no doubt where it came from. Very painful to have frozen off and expensive, burning cream to be applier for at least 30 days following.

I will not be back but YMMV.

Cactus J

That's an odd comment, Cactus J, considering that on 09-16-06 you wrote:

I thought Marc had sold Eden and moved on. Is it really the same Marc who started Eden? I was there years ago and enjoyed my time there.

Cactus J

Here's the link to the original post. .

So which version should we believe - that you you enjoyed your visit to Eden or you caught anal warts? Or something happened in the past year to get you pissed off at Eden?

It kind of reminds me of the old joke: "Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, what did you think of the play?" Or the more modern version we told in junior high school, "Other than that, Mrs. Kennedy, how did you like the trip to Dallas?"

Just to clarify - Anal warts are quite rare, but when they occur, they tend to be caused by the human papillomavirus (HPV), a family of 100 viruses that cause different kinds of warts in different areas of the body. It's very rare that HVP is transmitted through oral-anal contact (it isn't passed through body fluids). However, it's impossible to say that you caught HVP through a specific contact, since it can take anywhere from months to years for the warts to develope.

Evil