Pattaya Reports

[Mr Enternational]

Once this high season is finished (March 2023) I think there will be a significant slow down in global tourism and in Thailand. The TAT even said they are now expecting less tourists in 2023. The global recession hasn't really started yet, the pent up demand for when Thailand fully reopened will be gone and inflation will persist.

I'm expecting low season 2023 to be great for cheap hotels and cheap girls.

I think you are expecting wrong. Still a bunch of condos and hotels going up. This place is hopping with Indians and Russians. And once the Chinese are allowed to come back in it will really be overcrowded. History has shown us that you should always expect the opposite of what Thailand's tourism authority says.

[LittleBigMan]

Inverse, broader question: are there apartments or condos in pattaya that rent to male foreigners that do not allow to take guests?

Hotels may have their policies, but apartments and condos, I doubt.

There are some apartments whether in town or out like the Darkside that have policies I've not seen a place rented generally to a foreigner tell them they can't bring in a girl. I've found in or out of town if there is a policy it normally is imposed on the Thai lady because some owners don't want their place to be used as an ST or LT. I've gotten away at times since I look like one of them they think I'm their father? The ones in a town like in the Baukhao area side Soi, I've never been by a freelancer I couldn't. In fact, it is kind of a game if they are telling me the truth they live alone go to their place I rather they have the money than a ST room place.

For Condos, it depends on the builder management team largely the bigger the harder it is to monitor. Many terms of ownership and renting are that you can't! But unless you create a lot of noise for your neighbor it normally isn't going to be reported. I wouldn't if one was living next to my unit 555, but I had a close relative that had a crackhead ladyboy that rented next door after failing to get management to step in and address the problem it was handle not so pretty for the ladyboy, and when that was done he had got his team of lawyers sued the complex and removed the entire management staff.

Many Condos the language is pretty cleared but I've found in town there are lots of them not following the purchased rules.

[11Bravo]

I totally agree with this but you left out one important thing. Just because Nong pressed all the right buttons for, and got rave reviews from, one monger has no bearings on whether she will do the same for me. Many times we will not be in to the same kinks and she may not even be my type looks or body wise.

Are guys really saying that they need step by step, detailed instructions to find a girl and have a good time in Pattaya? You do realise that 90% of the complainers will never actually make it to town and forever remain in mom's basement.

Agreed. Just because a girl clicks with me, doesn't mean she will with you. And if she clicks with you, doesn't mean she will with me. We ALL have our own ideas of beauty. It's why I work to access ATTITUDE with the ones I find attractive. With my MP FR's, I try to include details of the scene so one might know what to expect. For bars, I find drink prices, bar fine, asking price, accepted price interesting, but from experience, the price she quotes me could very well be different than what she quotes others. That's just reality. And why I can't understand the requests for contacts, especially here. It's not like the adult entertainment scene is hidden .... Veni, vidi, vici.

I think she didn't like I didn't bought her a LD straight away (she didn't even ask for it), but I never do that. Some of these girls are very lovely and I don't have any problem buying them drinks, but I've met a good bunch of assholes too, so I always wait a bit to see if she really deserves that I buy her a drink.

I'm old school, a lady drink is not a given just for her sitting there. She has to be entertaining, working for it. I understand the bars, and girls, have to make a profit, but being graced by her mere presence doesn't do it for me.

[Knobrm]

I used these apartments, no issue bringing anyone in.

Inverse, broader question: are there apartments or condos in pattaya that rent to male foreigners that do not allow to take guests?

Hotels may have their policies, but apartments and condos, I doubt.

[Tim Timms]

Explorer is the Pattaya MVP poster.

Bangkok thread needs an Explorer type.

[Tim Timms]

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Are guys really saying that they need step by step, detailed instructions to find a girl and have a good time in Pattaya? You do realise that 90% of the complainers will never actually make it to town and forever remain in mom's basement.

Some do. Hahaha.

[Goferring]

There are many posters here with many different expectations from this site. Not everyone's expectations are met, so there is naturally some disappointment expressed here.

For example, some participants here want explicit descriptions, ie they want to know what "Nong" does, how much she charges, and where she works. The problem is, by the time they get to Pattaya, Nong is long gone from her former bar, or she charges more, or she has a sponsor and doesn't go with customers anymore. Precise topical information is worthless unless you are in Pattaya right now, and even then, YMMV.

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I totally agree with this but you left out one important thing. Just because Nong pressed all the right buttons for, and got rave reviews from, one monger has no bearings on whether she will do the same for me. Many times we will not be in to the same kinks and she may not even be my type looks or body wise.

Are guys really saying that they need step by step, detailed instructions to find a girl and have a good time in Pattaya? You do realise that 90% of the complainers will never actually make it to town and forever remain in mom's basement.

[Mombie75]

Hello brothers,

Posted this question in pattaya hotels thread and got no response, so posting it here as this thread looks more active.

Planning my visit to Pattaya, wanted to know if guests are allowed in apartment in central pattaya (B**e) when booked using airbnb.

Kindly suggest.

Also open to suggestions for 2 bed 2 bath places in pattaya which are closer to walking street and guest friendly.

Thanks in advance.

I used these apartments, no issue bringing anyone in.

[CaliGuy33]

I think there might be a reckoning after high season as some.

Go Go's struggle to stay in business, but it all depends on demand. If there are enough customers willing accept these huge barfines ect then the high prices will continue. $200/ night on a ST including lady drinks, the barfine, and the girl's price in a top Go Go will become common if mongers keep travelling to Thailand and are willing to shell out the cash. You would think some smart bar owners would try to compete with lower prices and better service or some savvy girls would go around the bar and take care of customers in the afternoon or something, but this is LOS, so who knows what is going to happen in 2023 and beyond.

Once this high season is finished (March 2023) I think there will be a significant slow down in global tourism and in Thailand. The TAT even said they are now expecting less tourists in 2023. The global recession hasn't really started yet, the pent up demand for when Thailand fully reopened will be gone and inflation will persist.

I'm expecting low season 2023 to be great for cheap hotels and cheap girls.

[MartinFlevo]

Hello brothers,

Planning my visit to Pattaya, wanted to know if guests are allowed in apartment in central pattaya (B**e) when booked using airbnb.

Even some freelancers work in THE BASE. So no problem taking a chick there.

[Tim Timms]

Lately I was sitting near two guys that were obviously managing an Agogo in Pattaya in a bakery.

One foreigner and an Asian guy (probably Thai).

They were talking about some problems they were facing (in English).

It seems like they have very little control over the girls, the foreigner was complaining that one girl comes and sit without doing anything to attract customers, another comes with inappropriate clothes (he was saying something like " we cannot let her come like this, we have to find her some good outfit" another had just told him she wants to get on a contract (then he said "if we put her on contract we'll have to put pressure for the drinks") and finally the last thing he said before I left was that he was asking the Asian guy to find some good quality girls, obviously their girls are not very good (and they know it) and he looked desperate to attract so good quality girls.

Post more bro. You actually make Sense.

[IronMerc]

Hello brothers,

Posted this question in pattaya hotels thread and got no response, so posting it here as this thread looks more active.

Planning my visit to Pattaya, wanted to know if guests are allowed in apartment in central pattaya (B**e) when booked using airbnb.

Kindly suggest.

Also open to suggestions for 2 bed 2 bath places in pattaya which are closer to walking street and guest friendly.

Thanks in advance.

[Paolo99]

But Pattaya is a city of unexpected surprises.

Soi Diana has underwhelmed me on this trip so far but I was passing a bar that was filled with older ladies. But sat there in the corner was a diamond in the rough, a beautiful fresh-faced girl. I bought her a drink and she told me she was 20 years old and from Cambodia. I clinked glasses with her and said 'aw khun' to the gods above, they'd delivered me a last-minute winner.

The barfine was 400 baht and she asked for 2000 short-time, immediately accepting my 1500 counter-offer. It was a fair price for such a lovely girl. She was probably half the age of most of the other girls on soi Diana.

Back in my room she had an incredibly tight pussy and I loved sucking her erect nipples. I fucked her in mish and she rode me noisily to a climax, showering me with kisses. I lay back and admired how pretty she looked, this sweet Cambodian cutie, riding me like her life depended on it. Thank you Thailand.

She collapsed on top of me afterwards as we both tried to get our breaths back. 'Me like fuck you' she said, not so innocent after all.

I think I've seen that girl, the bar is Buttercups, on soi Diana, a few meters away from Buakao, on the right side.

She has a pretty face but is very skinny, I would be surprised if she is more than 35 kg.

I passed that bar riding my bike and saw two girls sitting alone on the chairs, one looked good from where I was so I came back, parked my bike in front and she waved me in.

She brought my beer and we had a quick chat of less than 2 minutes and she suddenly left me and tried to wave other people in the bar, then went to sit alone. I think she didn't like I didn't bought her a LD straight away (she didn't even ask for it), but I never do that. Some of these girls are very lovely and I don't have any problem buying them drinks, but I've met a good bunch of assholes too, so I always wait a bit to see if she really deserves that I buy her a drink.

There were 3 or 4 girls in the bar at that time, with two other customers sitting alone.

I still could get some information out of her during the talk (her name is Tawan), the bar is new and opened only ten days ago. She is a girl from Nongkai, and was working as a freelance on Thai Friendly before working there.

She had all the crap vibes from the freelancers of walking street discos, same broken English, same cheap perfume that I cannot stand, and looked a lot less attractive at close range so it was not a big loss for me but I still thought the service was terrible.

Then the girl that looked like the Cambodian that Sir Lancelot described arrived, she's got a distinctive look, she is easily recognisable.

That girl also didn't even care about the guys that were already in the bar although none of them were accompanied, and she went straight and tried to lure in guys passing in front of the bar, or had her head on her smartphone.

Eventually, she could get a Taiwanese 30 years old guy in, they went to have a drink together and the guy left not long after entering the place. She probably asked him too much because he looked like he was interrested in her.

I watched the end of the Ghana South Korea first half, put my 80 baht in the bin and left without anybody caring about that (not even a good bye or thank you).

Personnaly I will not go back there even though the Cambodian girl is attractive (all the others are not), but the service was really terrible for me.

Funny thing is that when I went back to my hotel at around midnight, I saw her going back in a nearby hotel with an older (60 something) Farang dude who was probably twice her height.

So the girl is interrested in Asian young guys, tries to milk them, doesn't give a shit about the customers that are already there, and ends up with a guy completely different to what she was chasing, 3 times her age and twice her height.

Me thinks she would at least need to lower her expectations or up her service level if she wants to get something out of her work.

[JasonSilva]

Obviously, I am in Pattaya, and have met some posters here in Thailand.

Will it rain tonight? Maybe.

Here's a hint: go into Maggie Mays, buy a drink for a lady, and instead of saying "cheers", say "salud". The lady will ask you to be the DJ for their YouTube. Don't play classic rock, play Becky G, and everyone will be happy.

I have always enjoyed reading your posts, please carry on. May be if you can share more pics of the places and pricing like Sir Lancelot, casual lurkers like me will find it more helpful.

[Paolo99]

It's becoming more common to find girls that can't be barfined in Pattaya. I call them "coyotes", since they are there as eye candy to draw in customers, but the term has other uses in Pattaya.

There have always been drinks only ladies in Pattaya, but now it is widespread. It is possible that bar owners are encouraging this to generate more revenue from drinks, since drink money generated when a lady goes with a customer is zero.

Why not directly pointing out which bar exactly you're talking about instead of saying some vague stuff that serves nobody.

Tell the names of these bars so that nobody goes there anymore and the market shut them down and hopefully replace them by better places.

If I bought a bunch of drinks for a lady and then she told me she can't be barfined, I would be pissed. The real question is why this is growing, but I think it's prompted by bar owners.

The question is why would you do that in the first place, unless you're looking for it to happen?

You don't have the time to ask her during the first drink you bought her? Why pay her multiple drinks before asking her important questions?

A slight variation is the lady who can go Long Time, but not stay all night. There is a fantasy among mongers that ladies prefer nice hotel rooms to their crappy rented rooms, but ladies like to sleep in their own beds. Also, many don't want sex in the morning. So they head home after 2 am or so, if possible. I know some who get up at 6 am when they are with customers, to make sure their kids go to school.

You talk as if you know everything but a bar girl is a human being. They can be different from one to another and have different considerations.

I've met 1 that told me she leaves at 8 o'clock in the morning when she does a long time because she doesn't want to be a disturbance to the guy that barfined her.

So what about her?