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01-24-18 07:51 #24353
Posts: 12844500 Baht rent?
Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
I usually get a 1 BR condo close to 2nd road around Avenue Mall. But I wouldn't mind trying other options.
Thanks in advance!
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01-24-18 06:39 #24352
Posts: 3682Originally Posted by Dart13 [View Original Post]
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01-24-18 05:10 #24351
Posts: 6308Thanks for your review, Dart.
Originally Posted by Dart13 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Rob Jones [View Original Post]
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01-24-18 04:14 #24350
Posts: 621Originally Posted by Dart13 [View Original Post]
Thanks Rob.
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01-24-18 02:07 #24349
Posts: 3116Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
A few months back I responded to some of the general nonsense that is being preached. Now as you know I'm no brain surgeon and we all post here based on our experience and generalized but reading his post it is just over the top. Thereafter he went away most likely feeling red face even on the Internet now he is back and that is his right.
As noted, we all generalize but his experiences seem to go down as pure " fact " there is no left or right, stubborn and no compromise. Just because it happen to him or he heard it therefore it is now fact. Now you know I'm Asian, got no game never had, not a handsome man and rather pay since I can't stay up late and like the Go Go so paying is my preferred method but never had any Go Go kick out the numbers as being fact. I sense from his writing the reason he is getting those numbers is a way so they don't have to go?
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01-24-18 00:52 #24348
Posts: 54I'm a bit vary on breaking into the heated discussion here, but I just wanted to share an experience with couple of establishments in Pattaya. .
The first one is (in-) famous Devils Den. I actually had quite low expectations as a lot of reviews I've read were not that great, but I had time to kill before my flight, I already checked out of the hotel and I didn't want to bother with bars and ST rooms, so went to DD.
It actually exceeded my (low) expectations! I've found the papasan guy to be really helpful and courteous, he explained everything well and he was also clear there is no pressure to select the girls if I don't like any. I ended up picking Vicky and Bee who seemed to be the best options in the lineup. The looks are probably on the level of BKK PSE oilies.
The room was a bit of let down, just a cramped room with a double bed, even the swing thing wasn't there. But its ok, doesn't really matter but I think the place would really benefit from redecorating the room in more of the sexy devil style, doesn't cost much and would make a difference to the mood.
The process I found overall to be really nice. Surprisingly nice actually. Vicky spoke pretty decent English (Bee didn't), and overall Vicky was a good choice with good BJ skills and better looks once the clothes were off (Bee wasn't). I wouldn't hesitate to do an outcall with Vicky. The girls would do pretty much whatever you want, they can fuck each other, they can fuck you, you can do a trio, whatever. You need to guide them though. With Vicky speaking decent English it was easy to tell the girls what I wanted. They also were restless, in just over an hour they made me cum 3 times and were eager to go for round 4. The only downside was them chatting to each other in Thai all the time which I don't understand. Not that I care much, but its somehow a bit uncomfortable. Overall, its not cheap, but I felt I got value for my money but I also think I was lucky with the choice of girls, as I've also heard some really mediocre experiences.
Now, another quick review is of the Kittens BJ bar in Soi Post Office. That was probably the worst BJ I have ever had, and overall the worst value of P4 P experience I've had (only the K-Pressure in HK could compete with that). BJ costs 850 thb and it was just mediocre. And the whole place is bad.
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01-23-18 20:54 #24347
Posts: 1579Originally Posted by MrManGuy [View Original Post]
The points are:
- is this possible to have ST in Pattaya for less than 1000 baht? Yes.
- is safe to pick up girls on BR? Yes.
- All girls in BR are sick? No.
- All girls in BR are thief? No.
Are you sure that all gogo girls or bar girls or freelancers in Ibar don't have any STD or HIV? You can't be sure!
Are you sure that a girl who stay on BR at 10pm not go to WS disco after midnight? No, you can't be sure.
Originally Posted by MrManGuy [View Original Post]
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01-23-18 20:11 #24346
Posts: 514Really?. Really?
Originally Posted by MrManGuy [View Original Post]Originally Posted by MrManGuy [View Original Post]
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01-23-18 19:15 #24345
Posts: 15925Originally Posted by MrManGuy [View Original Post]
As for FL on Beach Rd, a lot of them have normal jobs in the day and kids at home so they are not trying to work in a gogo bar or be in a party scene. Hell, most of the guys in this forum don't even like going to iBar, but you expect her to have a physical or medical defect if a BR FL doesn't want to go? Not every woman in Pattaya was sent there from across the country by their families. Some actually do live in Pattaya with their families and can not be out partying at all hours. So they go out to get the quick money and take their asses back home.
And as on FL that I used to deal with told me, if someone would give me 10K baht/month I could keep my ass home and not have to do this anymore. That is why giving chicks 5000 baht and shit like that seems ridiculous to me.
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01-23-18 15:43 #24344
Posts: 549Originally Posted by MrManGuy [View Original Post]
1. Most Americans have had huge gains on their primary home since real estate prices have gone up quite a bit since 2009. People on the east coast and west coast have seen their home prices double or triple. Heck even in many Texas cities they have doubled during that time.
2. During the same period, stock prices have also more than doubled even considering or after returning to prior highs from before the financial crisis of 2008. The vast majority of Americans have significant assets in their 401 K.
Those making minimum wage or say even $50 k per year are NOT the type of Americans who even have a passport, let alone come to Thailand.
Asians tend to spend more when they drink and smoke, IMO, because it's also a socially liberating venue for them.
Asians do not have Mexico, Central America or South America close to them. So, they mostly prefer to stay in Asia whereas Americans are coming here and also in the other geographic regions.
Finally, there are some people who have $ but keep it quiet and are happy to see others part with their money and quietly smile on the inside knowing they could easily spend two or three times more than many of the Asians in Pattaya, and not care,! But are simply not going to do that here.
So, I think you are comparing apples to oranges. Just like the Russians who come to Pattaya are not the rich Russians, or even upper middle class Russians. I see very very few upper middle class Americans here. Mostly young guys with limited $ and net worth. A very large number of the Americans I know can drop $25 K in a month but simply are not going to. Why? Because over 95 pc of the girls in Pattaya simply are not in that class.
Even today there are more millionaires in the US than in Japan, Korea , China, India or Europe. That’s a fact.
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01-23-18 15:05 #24343
Posts: 3474Terminal 21?
How's it coming along? Was trying to find an opening date, did find an article about the concern of the mall owners of the increase in online buying in Thailand. Guess amazon is cutting into everybody's profit.
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01-23-18 12:52 #24342
Posts: 3116Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
I'll humor him? For those guys who always think they are part of the big dick department with the 3-3-3 thinking? Is that a good enough reason they should get the pay less menu?
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01-23-18 11:04 #24341
Posts: 402The prices are still a pittance. Europeans and Americans have experienced savage wage depression and economic inequality so are now not so rich as they once were. While many outside of the USA and Europe have seen fabulous increases in disposable income and they want to shove it in some pussy.
The one thing I agree on is competition for girls can get tough. That rightly leads to price increases.
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01-23-18 10:20 #24340
Posts: 549Ok something for you guys to argue about. Finally
Every year, particularly in recent years, more guys are flocking to Pattaya thinking this is where there is mongering arbitrage. Ready to be picked or found. Unfortunately, nowadays many of the newcomers come here and discover that - No - things are not so easy in this marketplace.
The global economy, cheaper air fares, and supply of Hotel rooms, apartments etc brings more guys here for 5 days or less for a cost of maybe $700 for air fare and hotel / incidentals. Maybe these guys budget say another $500 for drinks and girls.
This very same global economy and the internet options have reduced the supply of quality girls in Pattaya.
Unfortunately for them girls under 25 who are 6. 5 and above at a go go means drinks, bar fine and a ST go go girl 6. 5-7. 5 is 1,000 (drinks), 1000-1500 bar fine and 4,000 for the girl. LT total cost is 8-9 K.
After 3 days, these guys have only their day 4 and 5 left and a total sunk cost of close to $800-$1000 for their entire trip. So, on day 4 and 5 most of these guys have their backs against the wall. Pay up or go home with a 5 or under or over 35 yo from a beer bar for a total cost of 3. 5 k.
What does this MEAN IN TERMS OF NUMBERS?
If the 5 day average trip for guys coming here is correct then on any given day about 40 PERCENT of ALL the guys visiting here are on their day 4 or 5 with 48 hours or less behore they have to leave.
So, with 40 pc of visiting guys with their backs against the wall on a given day and the total sunk cost of their trip (due to demand being much greater than supply) go go prices are increasing rapidly.
Guys are flocking to the discos but many of these guys who seem confident in a go go bar don't seem to have the courage to propose to a girl. Or they don’t have any game . They just clam up. And both the quantity and quality of girls at the discos are also way down. So, lots of frustrated guys in general and on this board. Things are definitely a lot more challenging folks.
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01-23-18 09:50 #24339
Posts: 124Valid Point.
Originally Posted by BananaBoi [View Original Post]