Pattaya Reports

[Gin And Tonic]

No reason to get aggressive. All I'm saying was that it irritates me that you often comment that guys pay too much when this is simply not true.
Like recently when Butter69 reported that he got a cutie from the Lighthouse Agogo for 2000 LT (post #15845).
I asked him: 2000 for LONG time, are you sure about that? (#15846).
Steve7777 replies: Is that too much or too little? (#15848).
And then you reply: With a minimum wage of 300 baht a day I will say it's too much. (#15849).

No, it's not too much! Given the fact that the 'list price' (as Natty Bumpo called it strikingly) for LT for a good looking Agogo girl is in the range of 4000 to 5000 Bath this guy made a very good deal.
The majority of us punters have to deal with the list prices for ST and LT. We might be able to get a girl for 500 Bath (ST) or 1000 Bath (LT) less but that's about it.
OK, every once in a while you might run into a girl who likes you very much and quotes you only 1000 ST. That happens. But most of the time the girls will laugh in your face and say 'next!' when you offer only 1000. And that is for ST. You are able (apparently) to get a lot of girls for 1000 LT. Fine, I'm happy for you. But it takes quite some effort, game and time that the average punter doesn't have and you often 'forget' to mention that. You make it seem like we are all losers who pay way too much. And that is what irritates me because it's simply not true.

Black American guys like him generally go for the fat assed type girls. With high end GoGo chicks you are competing with Jap and Koreans. He with marauding gangs of Indians. Apples and oranges.

[Mogwai]

I have not always been a long timer but I have always paid the same price. Like I said YMMV. There are guys who will go with the first price someone gives them because they don't want to upset the balance, chemistry, or vibe and there are guys like me who, if not given what they feel is a reasonable price or feel they can get what they are after for less, will negotiate.

One thing I often hear when I tell a chick I'm not paying a bar fine and I'm only giving her 1000 baht is that, "You know too much. " Everyone, whether monger or hooker, is free to accept or turn down any price. Pay what you want. It does not bother me one bit and does not affect my game. The way I look at it is that the more another guy gives her, the less I will have to; not that if she got 3000 from you then I will have to give 3000 as well. I'm just saying that the most expensive way or the widely published way is not the only option. One can always try sneaking through the back door of the club to avoid the cover charge.

It's the same thing with taxis from BKK to Pattaya. You have guys that will arrive at the airport and get a taxi for 2000 or 1500 all day long and not think twice about it or think that is the usual/normal/regular/real taxi price. Then you have other guys like me who know they can walk right upstairs, go outside and cross the median, and get the same damn taxi for 900 baht. Why it would irritate you that I try to pull someones coat to let them know there are alternate roads to Rome is beyond me. I could give a fuck less how you get there, but if I know of a better or cheaper way then I will bring it up to you and hope you would do the same for me.

No reason to get aggressive. All I'm saying was that it irritates me that you often comment that guys pay too much when this is simply not true.
Like recently when Butter69 reported that he got a cutie from the Lighthouse Agogo for 2000 LT (post #15845).
I asked him: 2000 for LONG time, are you sure about that? (#15846).
Steve7777 replies: Is that too much or too little? (#15848).
And then you reply: With a minimum wage of 300 baht a day I will say it's too much. (#15849).

No, it's not too much! Given the fact that the 'list price' (as Natty Bumpo called it strikingly) for LT for a good looking Agogo girl is in the range of 4000 to 5000 Bath this guy made a very good deal.
The majority of us punters have to deal with the list prices for ST and LT. We might be able to get a girl for 500 Bath (ST) or 1000 Bath (LT) less but that's about it.
OK, every once in a while you might run into a girl who likes you very much and quotes you only 1000 ST. That happens. But most of the time the girls will laugh in your face and say 'next!' when you offer only 1000. And that is for ST. You are able (apparently) to get a lot of girls for 1000 LT. Fine, I'm happy for you. But it takes quite some effort, game and time that the average punter doesn't have and you often 'forget' to mention that. You make it seem like we are all losers who pay way too much. And that is what irritates me because it's simply not true.

[IllusionHeart]

Now that's exactly what irritates me about Mr E. Always commenting that we 'short time visitors' pay too much and that the real price is 500 ST and 1000 LT. It's only the real price for long timers and not even for every girl.

Mogwai, The lowest price I have heard from a girl I wanted to take is 2500. I didn't hear any girl whisper 500 or 1000 around me forget ST or LT. For my next trip in February I am expecting prices per encounter between 2500 to 4000 for LT be it walking street or Soi 7/8 bars or LK metro.

I would really want to meet one girl who I would want to take and wants 1000 LT, would be a memorable experience for me for sure.

[Mogwai]

So to recap the naughty Go-Gos are as follows (not in any order):

1. Sugarbaby's.

2. Windmill.

3. Private Dancer.

4. Babydolls - on the other hand the girls are very handsy once you call them over - sometimes that's better than the guy having to do all the work.

I have seen guys inserting bottles into pussies, eating out the girls on stage, soaping them in the tub and basically all those things you mentioned in your report (except perhaps BJs).

Any other Go-Gos go onto the list?

P.S. I could not eat out a girl dancing on stage, just off-putting for me from a hygiene perspective, but a lot of guys get a kick out of it (and are very enthusiastic about it).

The Airport Club has a naughty section as well in the back.

[Uncle Volodya]

With one exception. When you are a short timer like me and only have a few weeks, I will work hard my first few days mongering and hopefully shag as many young ladies I can. Then I will collect their phone numbers, also make sure you have given them or done something to remember you by because they probably are getting many guy calls if they are pretty and hot, and start calling or texting the good ones the following weeks for no bar fine and reduced ST or LT charges. It doesn't always work and it won't be as good as living in Pattaya and having all the time to work the scene, but it has saved me some serious baht and I know what I am getting when I hook up. Just food for thought.

The longest I've ever done is 2 weeks. So for me, time, rather than money has been the premium. But yes I think what you describe is a good strategy.

I hope to spend a month in Patts end of summer. Sort of a working vacation. And I was planning on doing just what you described.

[Uncle Volodya]

Living here can also be a curse? A potential sponsor without having to leave the country, a regular I can call when business is slow or I just want to have a day off going dinner and party. Collecting numbers can be great but make sure you control them so that when you want a break and put your head down on the pillow the phone doesn't ring or DING DONG!

Haha. Wow, that is a problem I would love to have, my friend.

But I do see your point. It was hard enough juggling one regular who was constantly trying to monopolize my time last trip. I can imagine how hard it must be to have a few of them going at once.

[Feelz Good]

With one exception. When you are a short timer like me and only have a few weeks, I will work hard my first few days mongering and hopefully shag as many young ladies I can. Then I will collect their phone numbers, also make sure you have given them or done something to remember you by because they probably are getting many guy calls if they are pretty and hot, and start calling or texting the good ones the following weeks for no bar fine and reduced ST or LT charges. It doesn't always work and it won't be as good as living in Pattaya and having all the time to work the scene, but it has saved me some serious baht and I know what I am getting when I hook up. Just food for thought.

No surprise that my man NB hits the nail right on the head. There is a HUGE difference between being in town for a short time and residing there.

For us short timers Time is Money. We can't' afford to pass up amazing opportunities just to save a few hundred baht. We did not come from half around the world to go hem alone with our schwantz in our hands.

Guys that live here have the time to play the game, collect numbers, and get the better deals. And the luxury to pass up on an opportunity knowing that they are in it for the long haul.

Shit if I lived in Pattaya I would have a dozen or so regulars on speed dial and would probably only venture out form time to time to add a new girl when I got bored.

You long timers live a charmed life. So don't hold it against us regular SOBs if we "overpay".

[Java Man]

So to recap the naughty Go-Gos are as follows (not in any order):
1. Sugarbaby's.

2. Windmill.

3. Private Dancer.

4. Babydolls - on the other hand the girls are very handsy once you call them over - sometimes that's better than the guy having to do all the work.
I have seen guys inserting bottles into pussies, eating out the girls on stage, soaping them in the tub and basically all those things you mentioned in your report (except perhaps BJs).
Any other Go-Gos go onto the list?
P.S. I could not eat out a girl dancing on stage, just off-putting for me from a hygiene perspective,

Private Dancer is the naughtiest. Windmill's dancers looked average or below average to me. I'm still looking, but that may be it, per an ex-pat here.
Sugarbaby dancers DO clean themselves after getting a licking. LOL. Also forgot to mention, they wear sexy schoolgirl costumes, with very small skirts. Search for them on Facebook to see. Draft beer is 90 baht, I think.

[Mr Enternational]

Now that's exactly what irritates me about Mr E. Always commenting that we 'short time visitors' pay too much and that the real price is 500 ST and 1000 LT. It's only the real price for long timers and not even for every girl.

I have not always been a long timer but I have always paid the same price. Like I said YMMV. There are guys who will go with the first price someone gives them because they don't want to upset the balance, chemistry, or vibe and there are guys like me who, if not given what they feel is a reasonable price or feel they can get what they are after for less, will negotiate.

One thing I often hear when I tell a chick I'm not paying a bar fine and I'm only giving her 1000 baht is that, "You know too much. " Everyone, whether monger or hooker, is free to accept or turn down any price. Pay what you want. It does not bother me one bit and does not affect my game. The way I look at it is that the more another guy gives her, the less I will have to; not that if she got 3000 from you then I will have to give 3000 as well. I'm just saying that the most expensive way or the widely published way is not the only option. One can always try sneaking through the back door of the club to avoid the cover charge.

It's the same thing with taxis from BKK to Pattaya. You have guys that will arrive at the airport and get a taxi for 2000 or 1500 all day long and not think twice about it or think that is the usual/normal/regular/real taxi price. Then you have other guys like me who know they can walk right upstairs, go outside and cross the median, and get the same damn taxi for 900 baht. Why it would irritate you that I try to pull someones coat to let them know there are alternate roads to Rome is beyond me. I could give a fuck less how you get there, but if I know of a better or cheaper way then I will bring it up to you and hope you would do the same for me.

[ActionOriented]

Found another naughty WS A-go-go, Sugarbabys. As you walk in it looks a little G-rated. All the naughtiness is towards the back, with a functioning jacuzzi and a smaller stage.
Once seated, saw a gent DATY one of the Dancers on the small stage. Another dancer sitting between two dudes was being manhandled by them. Looked like she was enjoying it.
I thought many of the dancers were attractive, mid twenties, I'd say. And they're not wearing panties, and get nekkid towards the back. Ladies were doing a lot of crotch groping too.
Ladies I interacted with allowed fingering and insertion. I went with a Brit I met, one lady wanted 5000 baht to do us both. ST, I'm assuming. When I asked about a DP, she said UP to YOU! LOL. Although, it did not rise to the level of Private Dancer, (no BJ's given, that I saw,) I still had an enjoyable time there. On WS before Soi 15, open til 3a, all drinks are 150 baht: beer, LD's, and shots.

So to recap the naughty Go-Gos are as follows (not in any order):

1. Sugarbaby's.

2. Windmill.

3. Private Dancer.

4. Babydolls - on the other hand the girls are very handsy once you call them over - sometimes that's better than the guy having to do all the work.

I have seen guys inserting bottles into pussies, eating out the girls on stage, soaping them in the tub and basically all those things you mentioned in your report (except perhaps BJs).

Any other Go-Gos go onto the list?

P.S. I could not eat out a girl dancing on stage, just off-putting for me from a hygiene perspective, but a lot of guys get a kick out of it (and are very enthusiastic about it).

[Java Man]

Found another naughty WS A-go-go, Sugarbabys. As you walk in it looks a little G-rated. All the naughtiness is towards the back, with a functioning jacuzzi and a smaller stage.
Once seated, saw a gent DATY one of the Dancers on the small stage. Another dancer sitting between two dudes was being manhandled by them. Looked like she was enjoying it.
I thought many of the dancers were attractive, mid twenties, I'd say. And they're not wearing panties, and get nekkid towards the back. Ladies were doing a lot of crotch groping too.
Ladies I interacted with allowed fingering and insertion. I went with a Brit I met, one lady wanted 5000 baht to do us both. ST, I'm assuming. When I asked about a DP, she said UP to YOU! LOL. Although, it did not rise to the level of Private Dancer, (no BJ's given, that I saw,) I still had an enjoyable time there. On WS before Soi 15, open til 3a, all drinks are 150 baht: beer, LD's, and shots.

[Mogwai]

Bliss Lounge, the BJ bar on Third Road, has raised the price to 800 B.

[LittleBigMan]

No surprise that my man NB hits the nail right on the head. There is a HUGE difference between being in town for a short time and residing there.

For us short timers Time is Money. We can't' afford to pass up amazing opportunities just to save a few hundred baht. We did not come from half around the world to go hem alone with our schwantz in our hands.

Guys that live here have the time to play the game, collect numbers, and get the better deals. And the luxury to pass up on an opportunity knowing that they are in it for the long haul.

Shit if I lived in Pattaya I would have a dozen or so regulars on speed dial and would probably only venture out form time to time to add a new girl when I got bored.

You long timers live a charmed life. So don't hold it against us regular SOBs if we "overpay".

Not always true there are exceptions to the rule? I know a few guys that come here and are on a budget. Maybe they are young and Asians but they know exactly where to stay, how much they want to pay whether it is a Go Go, Beer Bar, Disco, etc. reminds me what it use to be like for me when I use to visit each summer in Hong Kong and before China really open up. What I have found out about Thai girls and ladies it never surprises me as to how they think and make decisions when they are really happy with a customers that is why I do not entered into the conversation in regards to Mr. E, I know him but not well but seen him in action. Even at my age I've been offered free or cheap pussy, bareback but I also learned to just pay for it and strap up no matter how good it can be because they usually have a motive like a pot of gold at the other end of the rainbow. Living here can also be a curse? A potential sponsor without having to leave the country, a regular I can call when business is slow or I just want to have a day off going dinner and party. Collecting numbers can be great but make sure you control them so that when you want a break and put your head down on the pillow the phone doesn't ring or DING DONG!

[Mogwai]

You long timers live a charmed life. So don't hold it against us regular SOBs if we "overpay".

Now that's exactly what irritates me about Mr E. Always commenting that we 'short time visitors' pay too much and that the real price is 500 ST and 1000 LT. It's only the real price for long timers and not even for every girl.

[Steve7777]

No surprise that my man NB hits the nail right on the head. There is a HUGE difference between being in town for a short time and residing there.

For us short timers Time is Money. We can't' afford to pass up amazing opportunities just to save a few hundred baht. We did not come from half around the world to go hem alone with our schwantz in our hands.

Guys that live here have the time to play the game, collect numbers, and get the better deals. And the luxury to pass up on an opportunity knowing that they are in it for the long haul.

Shit if I lived in Pattaya I would have a dozen or so regulars on speed dial and would probably only venture out form time to time to add a new girl when I got bored.

You long timers live a charmed life. So don't hold it against us regular SOBs if we "overpay".

Don't fret over Mr E. I bet a million he isn't getting better deals than you by any significant amount. He is paying market prices for girls he goes for- the older saggy ones.

Anyways, Is it really fun to haggle a prostitute for rock bottom prices anyway?