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  1. #33578
    Quote Originally Posted by ChimpoChinn  [View Original Post]
    BA cutting Thailand off its schedule till 2022 October.
    Are you saying that British Airways is stopping service to Thailand? My ticket next month is on British Airways and I haven't yet been notified of any change. A month ago I had tickets on another airline and my flights got cancelled a few days after I bought them. Looks like I'm going to need to buy tickets a 3rd time.

    I did notice that current online schedule for British Air tickets to BKK now use Qatar for the final leg (and the prices are double what I paid about 3 weeks ago).

  2. #33577
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    You mean Farang like Thai and Japanese like Chinese.
    He means that Thai people think farang prefer dark Issan girls. Which isn't true, its just that in Thailand all the hot white skin girls are taken by well off Thai men who still think white skin is best. Thus the leftover "hot" girls go for farang as its their best option. If you're a hot white skin Thai girl why would you work hard in the farang P4P industry for 2000/ night when you can dance at a Thai gentleman's club and get the same amount for just drinking no sex? And if you OK to fuck then a high end BKK soapy or private VIP entertain jobs pay more than any gogo bar work.

    Japanese like Thai men, prefer white skin and Chinese features. In my experience us farang are fine for it but it tends not to be available to us, unless you're young, handsome, AND have money. For example I've seen some crypto millionaires dating these types that's about it.

  3. #33576
    Quote Originally Posted by JustLoggedInto  [View Original Post]
    There's a joke among Thais but basically the Farangs like taller, darker, wide nosed, tattooed, skinny look and the Japanese like the more Thai Penthouse girl look.
    You mean Farang like Thai and Japanese like Chinese.

  4. #33575
    Quote Originally Posted by JustLoggedInto  [View Original Post]
    Hi there,

    Thought I'd give a lowdown on Pattaya right now because I'm literally right there right now and I'm shipping back to Bangkok.

    All the massage parlors, ie Honey, Saibadee, are all closed. I think people already knew this but wanted to clarify. All gogos are all closed.

    I just want to mention that my tastes are very different and I prefer the girls that are more Japanese looking. So my favorite joint has always been Baccara etc. I also liked Palace (god it's so sad it's gone), Panda, Pinup -and occasionally Sensations. Sensations kind of is a honey trap because they throw a crap ton of people there.

    Treetown IMHO is just like a lesser version of Soi 6 (back when Soi 6 was good). Basically the girls there aren't my type.

    There's a joke among Thais but basically the Farangs like taller, darker, wide nosed, tattooed, skinny look and the Japanese like the more Thai Penthouse girl look.

    On a side note, the strange thing was that the type I like was available -- but only at Tantra. But get this, you can't barfine them. They just only want you to buy drinks but you can't take them out. But there were more my type there.

    A good portion of the 7 Elevens in Walking Street were shut down. Simons is shut down.

    Dude I literally have to mention this but Tree Town had like almost no pretty girls. I feel like all the pretty ones just flat-out jumped ship and decided to get the hell out of there. I was seriously disappointed. Even during the golden years of Soi 6, I'd walk down the aisle and eventually spot like 1 or 2 that were cute. But this place, Tree Town, wasn't my bag. If you're looking for more that Thai Penthouse look, it ain't in Pattaya. I'm literally dropping ship to Bangkok because at least you can see former peeps from Baccara lounging in chairs there. Honestly most of 'those' types of girls aren't going to be sitting out in the hot humid weather. They never did before and they won't now. Those are only the bar girls and the 'other type' which I never really was a fan of. Again, not saying it's no good. I'm just saying, Tree Town is basically all that type -- which I never really cared for.
    I live in Bangkok, but have been to Pattaya maybe a 20 times since covid started, it is just 90 minutes in the car so I usually go and see a girl I know to break the boredom. I agree with what you have said above, tons of 4's and 5's around, so if you are a quantity over quality guy you will be in hog heaven. However quality is very hard to find. They have all gone to ground.

    You will see a similar picture in BKK. The girls on soi 4, 7, 8 & 11 are of the same quality. There is better quality in some of the asian orientated massage places. I have found a couple of gems there. The other way is to go through your lady contacts line lists and ask who is still working, you can get intros that way as long as the girl thinks you are not a complete dick.

    The rest of the talent has gone back to Isan and living simple but probably happier lives. Or they have moved online, the InstaHo genre has come along way. The issue with the InstaHo ladies are that they get 100's of messages per week, most from guys not even in Thailand, so it is easy to get lost in all the crap and you are lucky if you get a reply or not. I have found the only way in is if you know a friend of a friend that can get their line and then if they don't have a long term boyfriend is it just a matter of coming up with a mutually agreeable rate. Very hot way above average girls that have been in the game for a while are never going to starve, they are going to suck up the last of the customers.

    I prefer everything being open, then it is just a numbers game of visiting as many places as quickly as possible to grab a hottie. Trolling through online stuff is time consuming, I work here so don't have that much time and hence find it to be tedious rather than pleasurable.

  5. #33574
    Quote Originally Posted by JustLoggedInto  [View Original Post]
    Hi there,

    Thought I'd give a lowdown on Pattaya right now because I'm literally right there right now and I'm shipping back to Bangkok.

    I literally created this account now because I feel like there's a lot of information I disagree with. Ok so here goes.

    All the massage parlors, ie Honey, Saibadee, are all closed. I think people already knew this but wanted to clarify.

    All gogos are all closed.

    I just want to mention that my tastes are very different and I prefer the girls that are more Japanese looking. So my favorite joint has always been Baccara etc. I also liked Palace (god it's so sad it's gone), Panda, Pinup -and occasionally Sensations. Sensations kind of is a honey trap because they throw a crap ton of people there.

    But yip, if you like the Baccara look. Tree Town is no good.

    I scoured the f-ing place.

    Treetown IMHO is just like a lesser version of Soi 6 (back when Soi 6 was good). Basically the girls there aren't my type.

    There's a joke among Thais but basically the Farangs like taller, darker, wide nosed, tattooed, skinny look and the Japanese like the more Thai Penthouse girl look.

    On a side note, the strange thing was that the type I like was available -- but only at Tantra. But get this, you can't barfine them. They just only want you to buy drinks but you can't take them out. But there were more my type there.

    A good portion of the 7 Elevens in Walking Street were shut down. Simons is shut down.

    Dude I literally have to mention this but Tree Town had like almost no pretty girls. I feel like all the pretty ones just flat-out jumped ship and decided to get the hell out of there. I was seriously disappointed. Even during the golden years of Soi 6, I'd walk down the aisle and eventually spot like 1 or 2 that were cute. But this place, Tree Town, wasn't my bag. If you're looking for more that Thai Penthouse look, it ain't in Pattaya. I'm literally dropping ship to Bangkok because at least you can see former peeps from Baccara lounging in chairs there. Honestly most of 'those' types of girls aren't going to be sitting out in the hot humid weather. They never did before and they won't now. Those are only the bar girls and the 'other type' which I never really was a fan of. Again, not saying it's no good. I'm just saying, Tree Town is basically all that type -- which I never really cared for.
    Good report Just Logged Into. I would have waited if I were until January as that is when the gogos and more places are supposed to open and the hot ones open. Let us know how BKK is and if that is bad, hit Phuket.

  6. #33573
    Quote Originally Posted by PDogger  [View Original Post]
    So realistically it's more like being a temporary "sugar daddy" to a short-term tour guide / translator?
    In real words. You paying a Prostitute money to be with you.

    Come on guys. No need to beat around the bushes.

  7. #33572
    Quote Originally Posted by Visal  [View Original Post]
    Oops, I forgot to mention thatthe flights will start operating from India since Jan 2.

    From the rest of the world there are many flights already working.
    BA cutting Thailand off its schedule till 2022 October.

  8. #33571

    The real lowdown on Pattaya imo -- I'm literally there rn

    Hi there,

    Thought I'd give a lowdown on Pattaya right now because I'm literally right there right now and I'm shipping back to Bangkok.

    I literally created this account now because I feel like there's a lot of information I disagree with. Ok so here goes.

    All the massage parlors, ie Honey, Saibadee, are all closed. I think people already knew this but wanted to clarify.

    All gogos are all closed.

    I just want to mention that my tastes are very different and I prefer the girls that are more Japanese looking. So my favorite joint has always been Baccara etc. I also liked Palace (god it's so sad it's gone), Panda, Pinup -and occasionally Sensations. Sensations kind of is a honey trap because they throw a crap ton of people there.

    But yip, if you like the Baccara look. Tree Town is no good.

    I scoured the f-ing place.

    Treetown IMHO is just like a lesser version of Soi 6 (back when Soi 6 was good). Basically the girls there aren't my type.

    There's a joke among Thais but basically the Farangs like taller, darker, wide nosed, tattooed, skinny look and the Japanese like the more Thai Penthouse girl look.

    On a side note, the strange thing was that the type I like was available -- but only at Tantra. But get this, you can't barfine them. They just only want you to buy drinks but you can't take them out. But there were more my type there.

    A good portion of the 7 Elevens in Walking Street were shut down. Simons is shut down.

    Dude I literally have to mention this but Tree Town had like almost no pretty girls. I feel like all the pretty ones just flat-out jumped ship and decided to get the hell out of there. I was seriously disappointed. Even during the golden years of Soi 6, I'd walk down the aisle and eventually spot like 1 or 2 that were cute. But this place, Tree Town, wasn't my bag. If you're looking for more that Thai Penthouse look, it ain't in Pattaya. I'm literally dropping ship to Bangkok because at least you can see former peeps from Baccara lounging in chairs there. Honestly most of 'those' types of girls aren't going to be sitting out in the hot humid weather. They never did before and they won't now. Those are only the bar girls and the 'other type' which I never really was a fan of. Again, not saying it's no good. I'm just saying, Tree Town is basically all that type -- which I never really cared for.

  9. #33570
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMoon22  [View Original Post]
    I really miss the erotic review. Not sure if anyone here is familiar with it but it was an amazing site that the ladies would post on and there would be reports from others who had spent time with them. Sadly the government closed the site.
    It's Up and running. It wasn't closed / seized by the feds, it shut itself down. Now you can't post about prices. I'm not finding any current posts about Thailand nor any Thai escort ads there.

  10. #33569
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    In 2017 I made arrangements with my all time favorite Nana Butterflies girl for 1 week for 15,000 baht. She was 28, cute, but not in the top 10% of Butterflies girls (certainly in the top 30%). This was a case where she was looking for a farang husband to provide lifetime financial security for her, her daughter, and other family members. The trip never happened because I came to my senses and backed out (I seldom even do overnights).

    There are many non-P4P girls (sort of) who do frequent "vacation girlfriend" trips. My main Thailand travel buddy has done several of these and has paid 20,000 to 35,000 baht for about 26 days. Payment is given to reimburse for lost work time, not for services. These are not the 20-something agogo girls, these are mid 30's to early 40's girls. I still keep in contact with 2 of his vacation girlfriends and 1 of them has made these trips into a decent business (she posts on ThaiFriendly as vacation tour guide). My buddys holiday girlfriends went to great lengths to keep him happy.

    In addition to the money given to the girls, they expect you to provide a nice travel experience. Nice hotel or resort, nice meals at nice restaurants, tours, and maybe some gifts (gold jewelry is preferred because they can exchange it for cash after you are gone).
    Thanks for the reply. It sounds like it was a wise decision to pass on that arrangement with her wanting more out of it. To me that seems like a good deal. Roughly 1000 us dollars for 26 days is top of the range? If she is pretty and really wants to make it a fun time for both especially seems like a good deal. And yes, I would want it to be at a nice resort and treat it like I do any vacation. Where is the easiest place to find the vacation girlfriends? I really miss the erotic review. Not sure if anyone here is familiar with it but it was an amazing site that the ladies would post on and there would be reports from others who had spent time with them. Sadly the government closed the site. It made it easy to find out what to expect from the girl in her attitude, what all she would do, described all of the looks on a ratings scale. Maybe another site like that exists but I don't know where. LOL.

    I wonder why the gogo girls are less likely to do the vacation girlfriend trips?

  11. #33568
    Quote Originally Posted by PDogger  [View Original Post]
    So realistically it's more like being a temporary "sugar daddy" to a short-term tour guide / translator?
    Money is the ultimate equalizer the greater the difference between your attractiveness and her attractiveness the greater the amount of money and gifts expected. My own experience of a few girls over a period of 4 or 5 days was compensation longtime rate daily or just meals paid with a thank you token cash gift at the end.

  12. #33567
    Oops, a lady friend of mine started work at a bar last night, but the police closed it down. Then she transferred over to a bar on Soi Made in Thailand, but that's in ruins, so no customers. So maybe she is going to have a short career. The bar situation in Pattaya remains uncertain, as the rules are unclear.

    I'm with my ex in Bangkok now, she has a customer who wants to be full time with her, so to go on a trip with me, she had to lie to say her aunt is dying back in the village. Meanwhile, she is posting in her Facebook about this trip. She claims she has blocked her customer from her Facebook so he can't see her posts. Meanwhile, she plans to give him a new Facebook account with posts from her village. Normally, she would settle in with him to live full time, but he might not have enough funds to support her. And he has a Thai wife, so he can't marry her.

    Another lady sent me photos of Soi 6 on Messenger, there appears to be some open bars there now.

    I am renting a pool villa next week for 3 days, and have designated a lady to be in charge for each day. She will select the ladies and be in charge of the food for the ladies. I will handle the drinks and setting up the music. The boss lady will sleep with me, the other ladies in the second bedroom. That will be pretty much my last time I host multiple ladies for drinking, I expect to do something different in 2022.

  13. #33566

    Holiday Girlfriends

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    ...In addition to the money given to the girls, they expect you to provide a nice travel experience. Nice hotel or resort, nice meals at nice restaurants, tours, and maybe some gifts (gold jewelry is preferred because they can exchange it for cash after you are gone).
    So realistically it's more like being a temporary "sugar daddy" to a short-term tour guide / translator?

  14. #33565

    Holiday Girlfriends.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMoon22  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone here got a girl for like a week or even a 3-4 days? Short term GF so to say? How did it go? How much can you expect to pay for a pretty decent looking chicks time? Thailand is a bucket list item of mine and touring with a chick. Haha.
    In 2017 I made arrangements with my all time favorite Nana Butterflies girl for 1 week for 15,000 baht. She was 28, cute, but not in the top 10% of Butterflies girls (certainly in the top 30%). This was a case where she was looking for a farang husband to provide lifetime financial security for her, her daughter, and other family members. The trip never happened because I came to my senses and backed out (I seldom even do overnights).

    There are many non-P4P girls (sort of) who do frequent "vacation girlfriend" trips. My main Thailand travel buddy has done several of these and has paid 20,000 to 35,000 baht for about 26 days. Payment is given to reimburse for lost work time, not for services. These are not the 20-something agogo girls, these are mid 30's to early 40's girls. I still keep in contact with 2 of his vacation girlfriends and 1 of them has made these trips into a decent business (she posts on ThaiFriendly as vacation tour guide). My buddys holiday girlfriends went to great lengths to keep him happy.

    In addition to the money given to the girls, they expect you to provide a nice travel experience. Nice hotel or resort, nice meals at nice restaurants, tours, and maybe some gifts (gold jewelry is preferred because they can exchange it for cash after you are gone).

  15. #33564
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    Thai Smile has many flights operating now, so I don't understand your reference.
    Oops, I forgot to mention thatthe flights will start operating from India since Jan 2.

    From the rest of the world there are many flights already working.

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