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  1. #38438

    Pattaya Freeelaners

    Will be in Pattaya for one night and thought of saving the trouble of going to a bar and just look for a freelancer. I will not have much time to choose, so wanted to know in terms of quality (excuse term), which would be the best place to start looking walking street or beach road or Soi buakhao.

    I head beach street the quality has gone bad and walking street can get more success with good looking freelancers, however I'm not sure, request others to comment.

    Thanks.

  2. #38437
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    I generally ask the girl "do you do bar fines?" before I ever buy her a drink. I've had a lot of "no" answers that have saved me much time and money.
    Obviously it seems to be the best way to do it but strangely I never met any girl telling me she doesn't do ST upstairs in soi6 (I never barfine here, I just use the ST rooms).

    The two reasons I couldn't go upstairs with her were when she asked a higher price than I was expecting to pay (they never quoted outrageous price, 2 K was the most they asked, so I don't think it was a way to reject me) and when she was uninterested downstairs which is a good indication that she will be even worse upstairs.

  3. #38436
    Quote Originally Posted by RakSopheni  [View Original Post]
    So you prefer to take them to your place rather than on site?
    Absolutely! Of course, some places the girls are constrained to stay on site. Other cases my hotel is too far from wherever I meet her.

  4. #38435
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    I generally ask the girl "do you do bar fines?" before I ever buy her a drink. I've had a lot of "no" answers that have saved me much time and money.

    In certain areas the bars are very close to one another and the girls wander from bar to bar to talk to their friends. In these areas (not Soi 6 where the girls mostly stay at their own bar) I can sometimes meet a girl between bars and chat enough to decide if I want to do a bar fine. Sometimes I'll cut a ST deal before I even know what bar she is associated with, though we do need to go to her bar and pay the bar fine.

    Seldom do I buy a girl more than one drink. This system works for me because I like to talk to her for a few minutes before committing to ST and I don't drink much alcohol (90% of the time I order water).
    So you prefer to take them to your place rather than on site?

  5. #38434
    Quote Originally Posted by Paolo99  [View Original Post]
    My MO is pretty simple and not sophisticated at all but the results are very hit and miss.
    Thanks for sharing. My technique is pretty similar to yours and also very hit and miss.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paolo99  [View Original Post]
    I just walk up and down the soi a few times and try to make a connection with a girl that I find attractive enough to spend some time with her downstairs (she's got to put at least a minimum of interest in me, like eye contact, a smile, or a gesture to attract my attention). Each time I've walked directly to a girl without her showing a bit of interest resulted in a failure.
    This is a really important point. As you have said in previous posts, there is a lot of turnover and many girls are just trying out this job for the first time, are just counting the days until their contract is over and will 100% be dead fish. Other girls find that it's work that they can deal with and are naturals. Most of the attention you receive will be with girls you don't want to take, however, so the challenge is walking calmly through the whole gauntlet trying to weigh all the options simultaneously.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paolo99  [View Original Post]
    If the girl is fun I can pay her one more drink for our first encounter, I always try to be handy on her, see if she is shy, get at least some kisses but most of the time I don't discuss service (except if she is open-minded but most of the time, the girls that I target are inexperienced), I focus more on her price tag.
    I do discuss service usually. If she will not do BBFS, I make sure she is game for a BJ and try to get a reduced price for just this. Most of the attractive girls on Soi 6 are inexperienced.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paolo99  [View Original Post]
    Overall it's very hit and miss, had some very good encounters, some average ones and a few not worth the effort.
    Ditto this. Soi 6 is a venue where monger technique is key for getting good results so love to hear more from the board.

  6. #38433
    Quote Originally Posted by Paolo99  [View Original Post]
    You said it yourself in your first post.

    You received dozens of likes and messages from different girls, yet you considered yourself lucky when one came by to your room. They were desperate but at the same time didn't even want to answer your messages, that makes no sense. We would think that a desperate girl would instantly make her way to your place at the moment you tell her you want her to come over. If they were that desperate they would do anything possible to get you as a new customer, which obviously they didn't put any effort in by reading your first post.

    Finding one decent looking girl in Pattaya (or even many) is one thing, but finding her desperate is another story. The fact that she sells her body in Pattaya doesn't make her desperate, words have meaning you know.
    This is getting over analysed, there may be many other reasons why. They may not be freelancers, they usually don't understand much English so you need to keep it very simple, they get a lot of timewasters, and then there are the creeps. Those are just a few and there's plenty more.

    I keep it simple using TF, I send a message "In Pattaya now, ST? I also get premium while I am there so it's at the top of the stack of messages that they get, they know that I am not wasting their time sending messages from abroad and they know what I want.

  7. #38432
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    I generally ask the girl "do you do bar fines?" before I ever buy her a drink. I've had a lot of "no" answers that have saved me much time and money.

    In certain areas the bars are very close to one another and the girls wander from bar to bar to talk to their friends. In these areas (not Soi 6 where the girls mostly stay at their own bar) I can sometimes meet a girl between bars and chat enough to decide if I want to do a bar fine. Sometimes I'll cut a ST deal before I even know what bar she is associated with, though we do need to go to her bar and pay the bar fine.

    Seldom do I buy a girl more than one drink. This system works for me because I like to talk to her for a few minutes before committing to ST and I don't drink much alcohol (90% of the time I order water).
    What do you do after you finish your Short Time with the bargirl?

  8. #38431
    Quote Originally Posted by LoneWolff  [View Original Post]
    100% true. I visited 2 x pre covid and I had to sift through tons of pages to find anything meaningful. Planning for a 3rd visit and still the same bickering back and forth. Sigh! Even after spending hours you cannot find anything meaningful or a valuable FR on any particular bar in Soi6 for example. The truly valuable FRs are usually from guys who visit Pattaya every few years on a week long break or something like that. And they are drowned out by all this bull crap.
    The problem with the reviews you cited. They are so far off from what the Regular s experience. One guy every night seems to find Randoms in Treetown for 1,000 baht and claims they are Kinda Hot. Anyone knows the area knows the girls in the area are downright Frigid as far as looks go.

    Yes,. Looks do matter to a lot of us.

  9. #38430
    Quote Originally Posted by LoneWolff  [View Original Post]
    Planning for a 3rd visit and still the same bickering back and forth. Sigh! Even after spending hours you cannot find anything meaningful or a valuable FR on any particular bar in Soi6 for example. The truly valuable FRs are usually from guys who visit Pattaya every few years on a week long break or something like that. And they are drowned out by all this bull crap.
    You like to be fed by other people? I've got one for you, girl named "Som", dark skin, beautiful face (looks a bit like an Indian girl), very smooth skin, some tattoos, a bit of meat all over her body, very nice bubble butt and puts a very good attitude in her work. She likes guys like you, Indians and Middle Easterns, easy customers she says. You need to know where she works? The massage place right next to Cheap Charlie. Best price you can get her? 1500 baht all in if you're a good negociator.

    Looking forward to your report when you'll meet her during your next trip in 3 years.

  10. #38429
    Go to thailand, visit soi 6 or wherever and post reports. People should post more of the kind of reports they want to read rather than expect others to. It's the same with people who complain about others paying to much. Why should anyone get to tell other posters how to spend their money or report their experiences.

    If you want to find a pretty girl on soi 6, walk down the street looking for one, pay her and find out how it goes. That's the fun of pattaya, finding a fun girl to fuck, not following someone else's directions.

    Quote Originally Posted by LoneWolff  [View Original Post]
    100% true. I visited 2 x pre covid and I had to sift through tons of pages to find anything meaningful. Planning for a 3rd visit and still the same bickering back and forth. Sigh! Even after spending hours you cannot find anything meaningful or a valuable FR on any particular bar in Soi6 for example. The truly valuable FRs are usually from guys who visit Pattaya every few years on a week long break or something like that. And they are drowned out by all this bull crap.

  11. #38428
    Quote Originally Posted by Paolo99  [View Original Post]
    After one drink (or even before as stated by other members) we should be able to know if the girl is going to go upstairs or not, and cut our losses early if it's not the case.
    Quote Originally Posted by RakSopheni  [View Original Post]
    I'm gathering from your posts that Soi 6 is your go-to place when you are in town and you've had good success there. Care to give us a walk through of your methodology with a little bit more detail?
    I generally ask the girl "do you do bar fines?" before I ever buy her a drink. I've had a lot of "no" answers that have saved me much time and money.

    In certain areas the bars are very close to one another and the girls wander from bar to bar to talk to their friends. In these areas (not Soi 6 where the girls mostly stay at their own bar) I can sometimes meet a girl between bars and chat enough to decide if I want to do a bar fine. Sometimes I'll cut a ST deal before I even know what bar she is associated with, though we do need to go to her bar and pay the bar fine.

    Seldom do I buy a girl more than one drink. This system works for me because I like to talk to her for a few minutes before committing to ST and I don't drink much alcohol (90% of the time I order water).

  12. #38427
    Quote Originally Posted by RakSopheni  [View Original Post]
    you've had good success there.
    Not really, I left a few times empty handed or with a so-so experience.

    It's just that other places were a no go for me (talent too poor or prices too high), so I ended up going in that street over and over to meet girls for fuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by RakSopheni  [View Original Post]
    Care to give us a walk through of your methodology with a little bit more detail?
    My MO is pretty simple and not sophisticated at all but the results are very hit and miss.

    I just walk up and down the soi a few times and try to make a connection with a girl that I find attractive enough to spend some time with her downstairs (she's got to put at least a minimum of interest in me, like eye contact, a smile, or a gesture to attract my attention). Each time I've walked directly to a girl without her showing a bit of interest resulted in a failure (she asked too much or didn't put any effort in the process).

    I don't mind losing the price of a drink on her if I found out she is not worth it and I try to gather all the relevant information during that time (age, how long she's been doing this job, how long in that bar, how many babies and so on). If I find out some answers that I don't like (or if I see some things that I don't like on her body or attitude) I cut it short, same goes if she sips her drink too quick and asks for another one, or if she just shows no interest while we are sitting together, I just tell her I'm going to finish my drink and move on.

    If the girl is fun I can pay her one more drink for our first encounter, I always try to be handy on her, see if she is shy, get at least some kisses but most of the time I don't discuss service (except if she is open-minded but most of the time, the girls that I target are inexperienced), I focus more on her price tag.

    If the session was good upstairs I'll keep her as a repeat but I also repeated some average sessions with girls I had a good connection with just because I couldn't find anything else at that time.

    Which leads to my biggest concern, going back to that soi over and over make things more complicated to find new talent, as the girls that I've met earlier express some willingness to repeat a session with me and I don't really want to reject a girl that I've spent a good time with a few days or weeks earlier so I try to avoid them rather than rejecting them.

    Overall it's very hit and miss, had some very good encounters, some average ones and a few not worth the effort.

    Any people would want to share their MO in that soi? I'm curious and not satisfied with the results during this trip, and probably will make a few adjustments for my next trip there.

  13. #38426
    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    I totally disagree. Compared to September and June last year, when I was here a couple of weeks as well, I have received (and still receive), way more likes and messages. And not just from 'junkies and uglies or oldies' as you put it, but also from attractive young girls. The percentage of the latter contacting me, is usually much lower. Normally I have to make the first move, and be happy if 10 to 20 percent replies, but now I have a lot of choice..
    This is music to my ears, glad to hear reports like this. Seems like the opinions on the current state of Pattaya are heavily split. Looking forward to getting back there for the first time since last October and formulating my own position on this debate. I get the sense that things have improved since last year in terms of the number of available girls and the quality as long as you're not expecting endless dime pieces.

  14. #38425

    Good point.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    When I got home and sent the message she did not respond until hours later. I went up to the bar later to buy her a drink and ask her why she did not respond. She said when she gets to work the boss makes them put the cell phones away. I noticed it must have been the same at the other places on the street. Then I noticed the same in Treetown. Maybe guys in other threads that report their anger about going into bars just to see chicks on their phones need to make a trip to Pattaya.
    Well said. That's a thing to think about.

    But. (Always the but) is a two-thing then? As you're horny at THAT moment, and not one or two hours later.

    I also ditched non-responisive ladies from TF. Especially if they started to act 'annoyed' bc I booked another lady or just lost interest.

  15. #38424
    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    I totally disagree. Compared to September and June last year, when I was here a couple of weeks as well, I have received (and still receive), way more likes and messages. And not just from 'junkies and uglies or oldies' as you put it, but also from attractive young girls. The percentage of the latter contacting me, is usually much lower. Normally I have to make the first move, and be happy if 10 to 20 percent replies, but now I have a lot of choice.
    You said it yourself in your first post.

    You received dozens of likes and messages from different girls, yet you considered yourself lucky when one came by to your room. They were desperate but at the same time didn't even want to answer your messages, that makes no sense. We would think that a desperate girl would instantly make her way to your place at the moment you tell her you want her to come over. If they were that desperate they would do anything possible to get you as a new customer, which obviously they didn't put any effort in by reading your first post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    If you cannot find a decent looking girl in Pattaya right now, you must be chasing only 8's and up.
    Finding one decent looking girl in Pattaya (or even many) is one thing, but finding her desperate is another story. The fact that she sells her body in Pattaya doesn't make her desperate, words have meaning you know.

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