Pattaya Reports

[Bugzy 69]

IMHO these 2 clubs still attracts the most good looking girls in Pattaya but it attracts as well guys who think they are sent from god and pretend a good free fuck or else first timers in Thailand who don't know the real game! I frequent this place lot of times and there is a huge variety of ladies and my approach was always a money transaction agreement. It could be some girls quote 4/5 k but the ones who do are ones who are partying with friends on their day off from let say go-go. Being their day off they prefer to party hard but a long time for 5 k will be a bonus that's why they gamble! In fact by 4 am there are still loads of girls getting wasted. One thing I don't like about these 2 bars, I noted there is a sort of link between waiters and girls to get drinks commission, worst than that is if you purchase a singha its 155 baht for me (last update Feb 19) but if a lady buy it its 120 thb.

I probably missed the part of his post where he was treating girls like "second class humans".

Anyway, even if his "tips" are not all very wise IMO (as said in a previous post, it's better to not be touchy feely with random girls in the streets or in the malls), I feel like his post is a mix of what we can read on ISG in the last few years on the Pattaya thread. The guy might even never have put a foot in Pattaya before editing his post.

It's OK to go in Pattaya and not spend loads of bucks on girls or drinks (Never paying drinks for bargirls or not taking a drink for oneself is a bad advice though). There are probably more people doing it that way than the opposite way. It all depends on which reason you're there for and what you have most: time or money?

It's been a long time I didn't see a review about Insomnia or Ibar, is it still a sausage fuckfest? Last time I've been in Insomnia (in 2015) I found only one girl that looked ok and she quoted me 4 K. Normally I would laugh at such a price but I didn't even want to laugh as I was shocked at how the girls took advantage over the guys and were expecting to be paid such an amount in that shithole..

[Smoothy]

Ha ha. Got a few laughs. We certainly get to see why Indians are sometimes seen as not desirable customers, and refused entry to some bars. Applying India standards of Frugality (meanness) in Thailand probably is not a great idea.

I prefer the bars that won't even let them in. The ones who say "sorry, members only" when an Indian tries to enter. When I see those bars turning Indians away saying members only, I mark those bars down as favorites and give them as much business as possible.

[Syzygies]

1. If your game is OK try accosting beautiful women wherever you find them. Streets, malls, eateries, etc (your gut should tell they're WG). Don't lose a chance, don't be shy and don't be too cocky. Get chatting a few lines, get a bit touchy feely (they really don't mind that from a stranger IMHO) and exchange Line IDs. I've had the bestest of luck that way. In their downtime they may want to visit you. Although ST is normally quoted 1000 in bars, many of these girls can come 700-900 for ST if pursued rightly. And am talking about stunners.

A Farang female told me how she had a hard time in India, with the culture there seeming to accept that guys on the street would try to touch her up, however this is not acceptable in Thailand, and most countries. So forget this touchy feely thing unless girls are coming on to you and hookers, or ladyboys perhaps.

Now your "Game" is something that matters when you try to get a free fuck, but somewhat irrelevant with hookers, others than needing to have acceptable behaviours and pay a suitable amount. Perhaps relevant with semi-hookers (part timers).

Groping goes on in Thailand, yes, in bars (behind closed doors), not so much in public although Pattaya may have an anything goes standard for behaviour of Thais, I am not sure.

My rule for touching girls, is move slowly and don't be sneeky. She can always escape from it if she needs to. If the girl encourages me to touch her, then fine (e. G. The bargirl is happy for my hand to be in her panties. Part of her sell).

[Syzygies]

Responding to you in no specific order.

6 There is a reason why Indians are not admitted to clubs or bars or have to pre-purchase a drink at the door.

Ha ha. Got a few laughs. We certainly get to see why Indians are sometimes seen as not desirable customers, and refused entry to some bars. Applying India standards of Frugality (meanness) in Thailand probably is not a great idea. However he seemed happy his "game" worked for him.

Indians seem to believe that every girl will start on a price too high and then drop it down to a price too low. I know from experience though that one of my semi-regular girls (already offering a low price) refuses to bargain with guys. She says she likes Farangs. Probably does not get many non Farangs. Many guys (various nationalities) were trying to offer her sub 1 K prices and she was not the slightest bit interested to talk to them. After all, she was superior looking in the area (although far too skinny to suit some), and not finding it difficult to get a customer that will pay her price. Yeh, I agree that bargaining below 1 K can work, but for the most desperate of girls, that are generally not wanted.

Strangely when girls have offered me bargain basement prices (below 1 K) out on the street, I knocked them back. Just were not doable.

[Turgid]

Geez King, perhaps your post was meant to be informative and helpful but as you can see from most member's reactions cheeky cheap charlies with a self-described game are not really appreciated ............

Attacks on a Cheap Charlie! How laughable in the Pattaya forum! Why pick on this guy when, from all accounts, most of the posters and residents here are Cheap Charlies?

[D Cups]

Arn Poddict,

Superb photo. Is it possible to just get her digits and not pay the barfine and lady drinks? Cheers.

[Paolo99]

But more important is that your post can be taken as confirmation of the prejudice about indian men: they treat women like second class humans.

I probably missed the part of his post where he was treating girls like "second class humans".

Anyway, even if his "tips" are not all very wise IMO (as said in a previous post, it's better to not be touchy feely with random girls in the streets or in the malls), I feel like his post is a mix of what we can read on ISG in the last few years on the Pattaya thread. The guy might even never have put a foot in Pattaya before editing his post.

It's OK to go in Pattaya and not spend loads of bucks on girls or drinks (Never paying drinks for bargirls or not taking a drink for oneself is a bad advice though). There are probably more people doing it that way than the opposite way. It all depends on which reason you're there for and what you have most: time or money?

It's been a long time I didn't see a review about Insomnia or Ibar, is it still a sausage fuckfest? Last time I've been in Insomnia (in 2015) I found only one girl that looked ok and she quoted me 4 K. Normally I would laugh at such a price but I didn't even want to laugh as I was shocked at how the girls took advantage over the guys and were expecting to be paid such an amount in that shithole. I was a regular of that place untill 2012 and could regularly meet cute twenty'ish girls there, but then saw quality going down at each new trip and prices were going up in the same time.

Trying to bring down the soi6 girl at 800 is a good idea (but if she doesn't want and you like her, take her anyway), but is probably a better idea for guys that stay in Patts long time or go there regularly. It's been said multiple times on ISG that some of these girls are willing to lower their price to go with some customers.

Don't fall for the Russian / CIS girls is good advice, except if they are not WG.

[Traveller747]

Hi,

I'm mid 30's Indian who just visited Pattaya for the sixth time in 14 years. All my stays have been minimum a week long or so but I always rtff before landing here. Here are some tips from my experience:

1. If your game is OK try accosting beautiful women wherever you find them. Streets, malls, eateries, etc (your gut should tell they're WG). Don't lose a chance, don't be shy and don't be too cocky. Get chatting a few lines, get a bit touchy feely (they really don't mind that from a stranger IMHO) and exchange Line IDs. I've had the bestest of luck that way. In their downtime they may want to visit you. Although ST is normally quoted 1000 in bars, many of these girls can come 700-900 for ST if pursued rightly. And am talking about stunners.

2. If possible don't go for girls above 25 (unless you're itching a MILF that day) and in worst case 30. Just ask them to show their IDs playfully as they lie all the time. I feel women above 30 are a hardened lot, and the bodies aren't as elegant anymore. The choice of beautiful 20-something girls is plentiful here. Why settle for less, and reduce your ROI?

3. I personally just do GoGos only once per visit to see what's the latest trend. I think they've a total rip-off. They don't offer the best value for money for a real mongerer. And the girls are snobs there. Other waste of money are the soapies, oilies and overpriced Russian / CIS girls. Savor local while you're here.

4. Give a shot to Tinder and WeChat nearby function. Sometime you may find beautiful girls here. ThaiFriendly did not work for me and I hate its messaging system. So don't waste time on it.

5. On Soi 6, if a girl quotes you 1000, you should counter with 800. Tbh that's a very good price for 30 min boink, and the ones who don't accept that should be done away with.

6. Another big con-game is ladies drink. Never ever buy them. Just buy your drink and get on with the game, since your objective to be let sit in the bar is already met with that. And if your goal is to pick up a girl from that bar, don't order a drink for self unless you can somewhat sense that your target (s) is interested in going out with you. Otherwise just skirt from outside. Enquire barfine the first thing, that evinces your interest to pick up a girl and not just dawdle there. Some are 300 but a lot I see these days 400-500.

7. Try Insomnia and other clubs if you're in to freelancers. I really find them more easy going than establishment girls. Avoid beach road as lot of skanks and oldies there, they don't show a good sign of health.

As others already posted: you give the advice for a cheap charly on a very low budget. So far, so good; not everyone is a big spender.

But more important is that your post can be taken as confirmation of the prejudice about indian men: they treat women like second class humans.

[Franciscass]

Hi,

I'm mid 30's Indian who just visited Pattaya for the sixth time in 14 years. All my stays have been minimum a week long or so but I always rtff before landing here. Here are some tips from my experience:

Geez King, perhaps your post was meant to be informative and helpful but as you can see from most member's reactions cheeky cheap charlies with a self-described game are not really appreciated and sorry to say just perpetuate misguided prejudice's. Not sure if it's a budget issue with you, if so understandable but if not I would loosen the strings and who knows you may end up enjoying the experience of buying a drink for the locals without looking for something in return.

[Gin And Tonic]

Hi,

I'm mid 30's Indian who just visited Pattaya for the sixth time in 14 years. All my stays have been minimum a week long or so but I always rtff before landing here. Here are some tips from my experience:

1. If your game is OK try accosting beautiful women wherever you find them. Streets, malls, eateries, etc (your gut should tell they're WG). Don't lose a chance, don't be shy and don't be too cocky. Get chatting a few lines, get a bit touchy feely (they really don't mind that from a stranger IMHO) and exchange Line IDs. I've had the bestest of luck that way. In their downtime they may want to visit you. Although ST is normally quoted 1000 in bars, many of these girls can come 700-900 for ST if pursued rightly. And am talking about stunners.

2. If possible don't go for girls above 25 (unless you're itching a MILF that day) and in worst case 30. Just ask them to show their IDs playfully as they lie all the time. I feel women above 30 are a hardened lot, and the bodies aren't as elegant anymore. The choice of beautiful 20-something girls is plentiful here. Why settle for less, and reduce your ROI?

3. I personally just do GoGos only once per visit to see what's the latest trend. I think they've a total rip-off. They don't offer the best value for money for a real mongerer. And the girls are snobs there. Other waste of money are the soapies, oilies and overpriced Russian / CIS girls. Savor local while you're here.

4. Give a shot to Tinder and WeChat nearby function. Sometime you may find beautiful girls here. ThaiFriendly did not work for me and I hate its messaging system. So don't waste time on it.

5. On Soi 6, if a girl quotes you 1000, you should counter with 800. Tbh that's a very good price for 30 min boink, and the ones who don't accept that should be done away with.

6. Another big con-game is ladies drink. Never ever buy them. Just buy your drink and get on with the game, since your objective to be let sit in the bar is already met with that. And if your goal is to pick up a girl from that bar, don't order a drink for self unless you can somewhat sense that your target (s) is interested in going out with you. Otherwise just skirt from outside. Enquire barfine the first thing, that evinces your interest to pick up a girl and not just dawdle there. Some are 300 but a lot I see these days 400-500.

7. Try Insomnia and other clubs if you're in to freelancers. I really find them more easy going than establishment girls. Avoid beach road as lot of skanks and oldies there, they don't show a good sign of health.

฿700? For a decent freelancer that sounds like a group rate. How many in your group to get it down to that price?

[Arn Poddict]

3. I personally just do GoGos only once per visit to see what's the latest trend. I think they've a total rip-off. They don't offer the best value for money for a real mongerer. And the girls are snobs there. Other waste of money are the soapies, oilies and overpriced Russian / CIS girls. Savor local while you're here.

Since you are a young man in your mid 30's with OK game why bother paying the hookers? Pick up the freebies.

I don't mind at all paying 2500 for an hour of soapy massage and fuck with a talented 25-30 YO Thai woman who knows how to handle a cock. I had recently a very nice session in Sabai Room.

Yes Agogos are expensive but if I want to play with a 20-25 year old Thai body with nice natural tits in my hotel bed then I have to spend some cash. This one in the picture costed 1500 + 3000 + drinks.

[Falcon 95]

Apparently, Palace has happy hour now. Unfortunately, it starts at 01:30 AM. One of a kind.

[Rob Jones]

Hi,

I'm mid 30's Indian who just visited Pattaya for the sixth time in 14 years. All my stays have been minimum a week long or so but I always rtff before landing here. Here are some tips from my experience:

1. If your game is OK try accosting beautiful women wherever you find them. Streets, malls, eateries, etc (your gut should tell they're WG). Don't lose a chance, don't be shy and don't be too cocky. Get chatting a few lines, get a bit touchy feely (they really don't mind that from a stranger IMHO) and exchange Line IDs. I've had the bestest of luck that way. In their downtime they may want to visit you. Although ST is normally quoted 1000 in bars, many of these girls can come 700-900 for ST if pursued rightly. And am talking about stunners.

2. If possible don't go for girls above 25 (unless you're itching a MILF that day) and in worst case 30. Just ask them to show their IDs playfully as they lie all the time. I feel women above 30 are a hardened lot, and the bodies aren't as elegant anymore. The choice of beautiful 20-something girls is plentiful here. Why settle for less, and reduce your ROI?

Responding to you in no specific order.

6 There is a reason why Indians are not admitted to clubs or bars or have to pre-purchase a drink at the door.

5 1000 TBH is a reasonable price to pay a Soi 6 for ST. I would expect your experience would sub par if you did in FACT knock the price down to 800-900 Baht.

For a guy who claims he goes to Pattaya once every 2 years I am surprised by your meanness.

1 Accosting women may be acceptable where you come from but I do not think it is appealing to Thai women.

2 I think you are having yourself and the forum on if you are claiming to be fucking beautiful 25 year old women for 800 TBH.

4 TF works just fine, is the problem with the 10 minute wait between messaging? Buy premium while you are there you CHEAP CHARLIE.

3 Only once because you don't buy drinks and are not allowed back in? I don't see gogo's as setting any trends. Since you have eliminated almost every other form of acquiring sex in Pattaya you are stuck with Soi 6 who by the way probably detest you because of point 5.

[Ukman57]

Hi,

I'm mid 30's Indian who just visited Pattaya for the sixth time in 14 years. All my stays have been minimum a week long or so but I always rtff before landing here. Here are some tips from my experience:

1. If your game is OK try accosting beautiful women wherever you find them. Streets, malls, eateries, etc (your gut should tell they're WG). Don't lose a chance, don't be shy and don't be too cocky. Get chatting a few lines, get a bit touchy feely (they really don't mind that from a stranger IMHO) and exchange Line IDs. I've had the bestest of luck that way. In their downtime they may want to visit you. Although ST is normally quoted 1000 in bars, many of these girls can come 700-900 for ST if pursued rightly. And am talking about stunners.

2. If possible don't go for girls above 25 (unless you're itching a MILF that day) and in worst case 30. Just ask them to show their IDs playfully as they lie all the time. I feel women above 30 are a hardened lot, and the bodies aren't as elegant anymore. The choice of beautiful 20-something girls is plentiful here. Why settle for less, and reduce your ROI?

3. I personally just do GoGos only once per visit to see what's the latest trend. I think they've a total rip-off. They don't offer the best value for money for a real mongerer. And the girls are snobs there. Other waste of money are the soapies, oilies and overpriced Russian / CIS girls. Savor local while you're here.

Being touchy feely with any woman in public places is a big NO NO in Thailand and you will soon get yourself into to problems should you carry on. Also Bars in Pattaya refuse admittance to people from India. The girl is doing a Job, if you refuse to buy her a LD as you advise then of course she is going to ignore you and be snobby because you think she is going to provide her company to you for free. Let me give you one bit of advice. If you want real fun in Pattaya you need to be prepared to splash the cash at least a little, or you are just going to be a miserable cheap charlie. You think a Soi 6 BG is going to let you fuck her for 800 baht? A good looking Girl will make more on Drinks and tips then let you fuck her for 800 baht, maybe with a older and uglier girl would go for 800 baht. You get what you pay for. And as they say in Pattaya "No money No honey good bye darling".

[Downandup]

Is Line the preferred mode of communication among Thai girls now?

Yes, it's more popular than Whatsapp in Asia and all the girls use it as data appears to be cheaper than voice.